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#2 ·
I plan to order it once Focal produces speakers that for sure fit the 2019. I really am tired of fabricating mounts or using cheap plastic crap from Metra.
 
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6speedjetta said:
I plan to order it once Focal produces speakers that for sure fit the 2019. I really am tired of fabricating mounts or using cheap plastic crap from Metra.
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They claim there is quite a difference with factory speakers.They compare it to beats audio or a little better.An upgrade in speakers would be even better for sure.
 
#4 ·
That amp is an overpriced piece of junk that has been discontinued by Pioneer. By piece of junk I mean that it may "improve" the OE speakers (which are also crap) just because it is giving them more power, but it is noisy (74 dB S/N ratio) and doesn't provide anywhere near the usable power that they claim. If you really have to have a compact amp that plugs into that harness and tucks into the dash, buy an Alpine, which is much better sounding:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_60631_Alpine-KTP-445U.html

Here is a direct spec comparison:

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-puj8Y...nw=g&awug=1014832&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1qbU7uec5AIVzlqGCh0PPgBoEAAYASAAEgLSt_D_BwE

If you can handle installing something under the seat or in the trunk, this is a very high quality amp for not much money (particularly considering the sound) that will sound 10 times better than any "compact" amp:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_72515_Alpine-MRV-F300.html

Since your ears are listening to the speakers (which are driven by amplifiers) replacing them is always a great first step. We just got another Jetta S manual for my son in grad school, and just replacing the factory speakers (I used Infinity Kappa coaxials) made an amazing difference.
 
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brian81 said:
That amp is an overpriced piece of junk that has been discontinued by Pioneer. By piece of junk I mean that it may "improve" the OE speakers (which are also crap) just because it is giving them more power, but it is noisy (74 dB S/N ratio) and doesn't provide anywhere near the usable power that they claim. If you really have to have a compact amp that plugs into that harness and tucks into the dash, buy an Alpine, which is much better sounding:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_60631_Alpine-KTP-445U.html

Here is a direct spec comparison:

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-puj8Y...nw=g&awug=1014832&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1qbU7uec5AIVzlqGCh0PPgBoEAAYASAAEgLSt_D_BwE

If you can handle installing something under the seat or in the trunk, this is a very high quality amp for not much money (particularly considering the sound) that will sound 10 times better than any "compact" amp:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_72515_Alpine-MRV-F300.html

Since your ears are listening to the speakers (which are driven by amplifiers) replacing them is always a great first step. We just got another Jetta S manual for my son in grad school, and just replacing the factory speakers (I used Infinity Kappa coaxials) made an amazing difference.
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Thanks,I'll look into the alpine locally from a custom shop I deal with who are A-one.Maybe I'll ask them first about a set of better speakers.
 
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videoguy009 said:
brian81 said:
That amp is an overpriced piece of junk that has been discontinued by Pioneer. By piece of junk I mean that it may "improve" the OE speakers (which are also crap) just because it is giving them more power, but it is noisy (74 dB S/N ratio) and doesn't provide anywhere near the usable power that they claim. If you really have to have a compact amp that plugs into that harness and tucks into the dash, buy an Alpine, which is much better sounding:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_60631_Alpine-KTP-445U.html

Here is a direct spec comparison:

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-puj8Y...nw=g&awug=1014832&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1qbU7uec5AIVzlqGCh0PPgBoEAAYASAAEgLSt_D_BwE

If you can handle installing something under the seat or in the trunk, this is a very high quality amp for not much money (particularly considering the sound) that will sound 10 times better than any "compact" amp:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_72515_Alpine-MRV-F300.html

Since your ears are listening to the speakers (which are driven by amplifiers) replacing them is always a great first step. We just got another Jetta S manual for my son in grad school, and just replacing the factory speakers (I used Infinity Kappa coaxials) made an amazing difference.
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Thanks,I'll look into the alpine locally from a custom shop I deal with who are A-one.Maybe I'll ask them first about a set of better speakers.
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I can second the Alpine recommendation but go for the KTA-450. Its the newer model, is 50 watts and has a little more functionality. It's quite small. I just finished installing my behind the radio in the dash (not a VW sorry). The install is pretty easy and it sounds amazing. You can supposedly power it totally from the radio wire harness but I chose to run separate power and ground wires. It's truly amazing how good it sounds for being so small. Give it a look.
 
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I got exited when I saw the youtube video, I reached out to them for the amp specs, I replaced the stock speakers on the front and it was a great improvement, I will be upgrading the rear speakers and add a sub later this year
 
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brian81 said:
That amp is an overpriced piece of junk that has been discontinued by Pioneer. By piece of junk I mean that it may "improve" the OE speakers (which are also crap) just because it is giving them more power, but it is noisy (74 dB S/N ratio) and doesn't provide anywhere near the usable power that they claim. If you really have to have a compact amp that plugs into that harness and tucks into the dash, buy an Alpine, which is much better sounding:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_60631_Alpine-KTP-445U.html

Here is a direct spec comparison:

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-puj8Y...nw=g&awug=1014832&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1qbU7uec5AIVzlqGCh0PPgBoEAAYASAAEgLSt_D_BwE

If you can handle installing something under the seat or in the trunk, this is a very high quality amp for not much money (particularly considering the sound) that will sound 10 times better than any "compact" amp:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_72515_Alpine-MRV-F300.html

Since your ears are listening to the speakers (which are driven by amplifiers) replacing them is always a great first step. We just got another Jetta S manual for my son in grad school, and just replacing the factory speakers (I used Infinity Kappa coaxials) made an amazing difference.
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What speaker size did you use for front and rear?
 
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dago99 said:
how did you go about installing them? I've heard the factory speakers are glued or something that makes them hard to replace?
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They are held in with 4 rivets.You have to drill them out.Once they are drilled out you should use VW adapter rings to build out the speaker so you don't lose the sound in your door panel.You can buy them so you have to google it or the place where you buy the speakers can order them for you.You will see how the factory ones are built out.Once you have everything you have to drill 4 new holes and use self tapping screws to hold everything in.You cannot use the factory plug so you have to cut it off the harness and use female spade connectors.As far as door panel removal go to youtube and use the video removing door panel on VW MK7.They are the same pretty well.Allow yourself at least an hour or more for each side.It's not terribly difficult if you take your time.
 
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videoguy009 said:
They are held in with 4 rivets.You have to drill them out.Once they are drilled out you should use VW adapter rings/spacers to build out the speaker so you don't lose the sound in your door panel.You can buy them so you have to google it or the place where you buy the speakers can order them for you.You will see how the factory ones are built out.Once you have everything you have to drill 4 new holes and use self tapping screws to hold everything in.You cannot use the factory plug so you have to cut it off the harness and use female spade connectors.As far as door panel removal go to youtube and use the video removing door panel on VW MK7.They are the same pretty well.Allow yourself at least an hour or more for each side.It's not terribly difficult if you take your time.
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Another tidbit of info.Be sure to add a piece of insulation between the door and speaker before the spacers.
 
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videoguy009 said:
videoguy009 said:
They are held in with 4 rivets.You have to drill them out.Once they are drilled out you should use VW adapter rings/spacers to build out the speaker so you don't lose the sound in your door panel.You can buy them so you have to google it or the place where you buy the speakers can order them for you.You will see how the factory ones are built out.Once you have everything you have to drill 4 new holes and use self tapping screws to hold everything in.You cannot use the factory plug so you have to cut it off the harness and use female spade connectors.As far as door panel removal go to youtube and use the video removing door panel on VW MK7.They are the same pretty well.Allow yourself at least an hour or more for each side.It's not terribly difficult if you take your time.
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Another tidbit of info.Be sure to add a piece of insulation between the door and speaker before the spacers.
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Search for Scosche SAVW-6 Speaker Mounting Brackets. These should work on the fronts
 
#15 ·
I ordered this adapter. Not sure what amp will be used since I have several in the closet with 'speaker level' capability.

I don't have a problem with the base OE speakers. But, the full volume is just too low for me. Will try the amp 1st to see if I can get the db that I am looking for. If I do and don't blow the OE speakers, then I will be happy. If they pop, and probably will, I will replace them. I have some new 6.5-6.75 speakers waiting for a door.

Since some 'car features' are tied into the OE radio, like the MPG/clock/..., I am also considering losing features for a real double-din head unit. I hope that Crutchfield figures this vehicle out. I don't care for a headunit tied into the vehicle features. But, not sure how to adjust the dash time if the radio is removed or whatever else is lost with OE radio removal.
 
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Greasymechtech said:
I ordered this adapter. Not sure what amp will be used since I have several in the closet with 'speaker level' capability.

I don't have a problem with the base OE speakers. But, the full volume is just too low for me. Will try the amp 1st to see if I can get the db that I am looking for. If I do and don't blow the OE speakers, then I will be happy. If they pop, and probably will, I will replace them. I have some new 6.5-6.75 speakers waiting for a door.

Since some 'car features' are tied into the OE radio, like the MPG/clock/..., I am also considering losing features for a real double-din head unit. I hope that Crutchfield figures this vehicle out. I don't care for a headunit tied into the vehicle features. But, not sure how to adjust the dash time if the radio is removed or whatever else is lost with OE radio removal.
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This is important info.I have a 19 RLine with the cd player in the glove box.IF any of you have this feature DO NOT remove your head unit as the factory amp and all the speaker wiring etc. is in the CD Player.Just use two removal tools and slide the deck out.You will see everything you need to get at in the back.There is a large plug in harness with speaker wires and other wires.Your car antenna and XM Sirrus antenna also are there.Some of the wires do go to the head unit for volume and media selection etc.The video Enfig shows on youtube is a Jetta without the CD player so the amp is in the head unit.If you are installing an amp like the Alpine KTP455u you will be hard pressed to hide it behind the cd player as there is very little room.The glove box would be a good place in this case.
 
#17 ·
Greasymechtech said:
Since some 'car features' are tied into the OE radio, like the MPG/clock/..., I am also considering losing features for a real double-din head unit. I hope that Crutchfield figures this vehicle out. I don't care for a headunit tied into the vehicle features. But, not sure how to adjust the dash time if the radio is removed or whatever else is lost with OE radio removal.
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Don't wait for Crutchfield to figure anything out; they have made mistakes on older VW cars that they still don't have right.

If you want to change the head unit, wait for the Scosche adapter for the Jetta that retains the Car functions. They have this for the Golf:

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_106525_Scosche-VW2352B.html

The Golf has much higher sales volume worldwide so this came out first, but they are supposed to have one for the North American Jetta. It's a bit pricy, but if you want to add a Nav/Sirius/CD unit to a S, SE, or R-Line it's the way to go.
 
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