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As the title suggests, anyone on here yet to acquire a 2020 model yet? Preferably a GLI but not necessarily.

There was some discussion in the "Official 2020" thread about the amber being removed from the tail signals and I was hoping someone with a 2020 would be kind enough to post a short video, or a series of digital pics of the new 2020 tail with the turn signal flashing and brakes on/off. I'm really curious how this looks.

It's next to impossible to find anything showing this on google, and my local dealers are all closed for the time being (due social distancing restrictions). VW's web page shows some still pics of the tail with the amber missing, but nothing showing it lit up (when signal is on) and with/without brakes applied.

As soon as the market returns to somewhat normal, I'll be looking for a GLI but I'm on the fence between '19 and '20, and it sounds like the only difference between the two is the tail lights (and perhaps newer minor-version update of software in the infotainment system).

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DoC
 
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Here you go:

https://youtu.be/yBJRpvb7S4g?t=50


DoC0427 said:
As the title suggests, anyone on here yet to acquire a 2020 model yet? Preferably a GLI but not necessarily.

There was some discussion in the "Official 2020" thread about the amber being removed from the tail signals and I was hoping someone with a 2020 would be kind enough to post a short video, or a series of digital pics of the new 2020 tail with the turn signal flashing and brakes on/off. I'm really curious how this looks.

It's next to impossible to find anything showing this on google, and my local dealers are all closed for the time being (due social distancing restrictions). VW's web page shows some still pics of the tail with the amber missing, but nothing showing it lit up (when signal is on) and with/without brakes applied.

As soon as the market returns to somewhat normal, I'll be looking for a GLI but I'm on the fence between '19 and '20, and it sounds like the only difference between the two is the tail lights (and perhaps newer minor-version update of software in the infotainment system).

Cheers...
DoC
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That's awesome, thank you!

Possible to see the same thing (flashing signals) but with the brake lights also on? ...I know, asking a lot, but I really do want to see what that looks like.

Thanks...
DoC
 
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DoC0427 said:
That's awesome, thank you!

Possible to see the same thing (flashing signals) but with the brake lights also on? ...I know, asking a lot, but I really do want to see what that looks like.

Thanks...
DoC
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Are you asking what happens if you brake and turn on the left blinker? I am pretty sure the right side would stay on and the left side would flash as the youtube shows. Again, the portion of the lamp that flashes when the blinker is on is also the portion that lights up when you brake.

If you go to youtube and just search for "2020 jetta", you will see a lot of reviews now. Maybe in some of them you will see what you're looking for.
 
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Watching the referenced video, the turn signals appear to be amber when viewed from directly behind. Only when the camera around to the side do they look red, at least the 3 squares. The clear area above looks to be amber.
 
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epc said:
Are you asking what happens if you brake and turn on the left blinker? I am pretty sure the right side would stay on and the left side would flash as the youtube shows. Again, the portion of the lamp that flashes when the blinker is on is also the portion that lights up when you brake.....
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Just like most vehicles for decades.
 
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epc said:
Are you asking what happens if you brake and turn on the left blinker? I am pretty sure the right side would stay on and the left side would flash as the youtube shows. Again, the portion of the lamp that flashes when the blinker is on is also the portion that lights up when you brake.

If you go to youtube and just search for "2020 jetta", you will see a lot of reviews now. Maybe in some of them you will see what you're looking for.
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Yea sort of but on the same side, that's what I want to see in a video if possible.
I'm curious whether there's any indication (and what is it that indicates) in the tail light that the brake is on when the signal is flashing at the same time, on the same side. I tend to agree with others that if there is no brake indication in the same side housing as a turn signal is flashing, that this is a safety concern. I'm sure it still complies with all necessary regulations, but still... On the other hand, if it does indicate both brake and signal on the same side then I'd like to see how that is done and what it looks like is all.

I have done MANY searches for 2020 and to be honest, I can't find any videos or even pictures of this. Actually, not many of the 2020 pictures even either.... since it's essentially the same as the '19 (except for what I want to see), the journalists and reviewers haven't reviewed the '20 that I can find. Other than spec/price/feature comparison... but maybe you've seen something? It makes sense to me, why would they spend the time to review essentially the same car 2 times. And the ones that have, seem to use '19 stock pictures... again, the only difference is that amber tail light and it's so minor, I'm sure most would not even notice it in the pictures. Finding even buyers that have purchased a 2020 and made their own video on Youtube or something is also hard to find, hence my asking here. :)

I know this seems minor, and I agree. But I am really curious of what this looks like... turn signal on, and press the brake. Bonus if it could be shown with both the headlights/running lights on and off. ;) It's bugging me more because its so hard to find to be honest and dealerships are all closed (around here at least).

Cheers...
DoC
 
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DoC0427 said:
I'm curious whether there's any indication (and what is it that indicates) in the tail light that the brake is on when the signal is flashing at the same time, on the same side.
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From the videos I've seen, the answer is clearly no, there is no indication that you speak of.

This youtube shows you how the tail lamp flashes, when the tail lamp is switched on for nighttime driving.

https://youtu.be/Yn3NTJEq8Xs?t=244

The flashing portion flashes when the signal or the brake is on. When the signal and the brake are both on, the same portion flashes the same way.

I understand your "obsession." I am a little particular about how lamps work. That's why I am happy with my 2019 Jetta, because to me its lamps work the right way.

If it's really important to you, just get the 2019. I'm sure there is plenty of them still on the lot. Besides, you get the 6-year warranty with the 2019s, only 4 with the 2020s. I don't see any new feature on 2020 that makes it the must-buy over the 2019. And if you find a 2019 built late in the model year, chances are the little issues (like rattling) have been worked out anyway.
 
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epc said:
From the videos I've seen, the answer is clearly no, there is no indication that you speak of.

This youtube shows you how the tail lamp flashes, when the tail lamp is switched on for nighttime driving.

https://youtu.be/Yn3NTJEq8Xs?t=244

The flashing portion flashes when the signal or the brake is on. When the signal and the brake are both on, the same portion flashes the same way.

I understand your "obsession." I am a little particular about how lamps work. That's why I am happy with my 2019 Jetta, because to me its lamps work the right way.

If it's really important to you, just get the 2019. I'm sure there is plenty of them still on the lot. Besides, you get the 6-year warranty with the 2019s, only 4 with the 2020s. I don't see any new feature on 2020 that makes it the must-buy over the 2019. And if you find a 2019 built late in the model year, chances are the little issues (like rattling) have been worked out anyway.
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Thanks epc, that video helped a lot actually... not sure why I couldn't find that in my searches though. Oh well... thanks!

As for what to get, well I'm looking for a GLI and I'm in Canada.... so actually, options are VERY limited and that warranty change doesn't apply here. We have 4yrs (I think) but it's the same in '20 as whatever it was in '19 here.

I'm looking for the right deal to come up, with all the dealers closed right now it's taking a while but I'm in no rush. I'm starting to see a few "used" '19s pop up here and there now too. Still pretty sparse pickin's though. Just have to be patient I guess. Hoping once life returns to (somewhat) normal, the dealers will come up with some new, deep promotions to make up for lost ground in their sales. Time will tell I suppose.

Thanks again for pointing me to that video!

Cheers...
DoC
 
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DoC0427 said:
Thanks epc, that video helped a lot actually... not sure why I couldn't find that in my searches though. Oh well... thanks!

As for what to get, well I'm looking for a GLI and I'm in Canada.... so actually, options are VERY limited and that warranty change doesn't apply here. We have 4yrs (I think) but it's the same in '20 as whatever it was in '19 here.

I'm looking for the right deal to come up, with all the dealers closed right now it's taking a while but I'm in no rush. I'm starting to see a few "used" '19s pop up here and there now too. Still pretty sparse pickin's though. Just have to be patient I guess. Hoping once life returns to (somewhat) normal, the dealers will come up with some new, deep promotions to make up for lost ground in their sales. Time will tell I suppose.

Thanks again for pointing me to that video!

Cheers...
DoC
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Serious question, are Canadians allowed to buy new cars in US and immediately import them? Financially make sense in any way if so?
 
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express_wagon said:
Serious question, are Canadians allowed to buy new cars in US and immediately import them? Financially make sense in any way if so?
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Actually that's a complicated question. The short answer is it's not illegal and you possibly can do it, but it's not worth it.
Here's the deal as I understand it.

1. As a Canadian you have to find an American dealer willing to sell you the vehicle and hand you the keys with a temporary tag on it. New dealers are generally unwilling to do that since it's somewhat against the rules they have with the manufacturers if they know you're exporting from USA to Canada. But if you don't tell them, then it's possible if they are willing and you have a way of filling out the sales paperwork with a US address. Because of that, it's probably easier to find an American buddy to buy it for you, then re-sell it to you.

2. The warranty will not be valid in Canada. Sure, if there's a problem you could take it to a Canadian dealer and tell them you're just a visiting American on holiday and need service, but that will likely get thwarted when you give them your contact info. Again, you could probably cheat that on the 1st service, but future ones will likely get flagged and denied.

3. Minor point: you likely won't get any recall notices (if any) since the manufacturer likely won't know how to contact you. Also (similar issue with #2 above) the Canadian dealer will not have record of your VIN so they won't be able to look up any recalls for you either even if you ask. For that, you need to maintain contact with a US dealer. If you live near the border, then both this and #2 above are likely not an issue for you though.

4. Reselling it will cost you. The registration history will show it's an imported vehicle, so potential resale value will be less.

5. Biggest issue right now: Canadian $ right now is about $0.70 USD.... you can do the math on that.

6. It's illegal for a manufacturer to prevent you from exporting from USA into Canada, but they can make it difficult, and therefore it's a tedious and paperwork laden process and you can't bring the vehicle across the border until you have all the paperwork in-hand. Means finding a place to park it after you buy it for possibly several weeks before you can bring it over the border. You need an import letter from the manufacturer saying there are no outstanding recalls, you need to get inspections done to make sure it complies with Canadian safety regulations (DRLs), ownership papers, proof of no liens/loans leveraged against it, etc... all very possible, just a pain and time consuming process.


Several years ago (2009 - 2011) when the CDN$ was at or near par with the USD$ I imported a few vehicles into Canada for personal use and helped a couple friends with the process as well. Back then, it made a lot of sense but only for USED vehicles because used dealers are a LOT more accommodating with the paperwork and the warranty was already expired or close to it anyway. New vehicles were difficult.... not illegal at all, just difficult to find a willing US dealer to work with and then justify the currency delta and give up the warranty made little justification even when currency was at par.

Back in 2009ish there was both financial motivation (exchange) and feature motivation (better optioned vehicles in the US at the same price as Canadian vehicles). You may recall the media getting all involved in that and since then the manufacturers have pretty much stopped playing those games. US and Canadian models are "generally" optioned and priced "close" to the same (sometimes packaged differently but available).

Bottom line answer to your question....
- it's totally legal and possible for anyone who wants to do it
- almost impossible to find a new car dealer willing to do it though
- little if any financial or any other reason to consider it

Cheers...
DoC
 
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ripsteakface said:
not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but all 2019s come with the people's warranty 6yr/72k miles. 2020s are back to 3yr/36k i believe
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Not here in Canada. We get 4yr, 80k kms on 2020 and that's what it was on 2019 as well.
We also don't have CarNet... not available in Canada.
Maintenance packages are available, but extra.

DoC
 
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Our 2019 Jetta S has the 6yr / 72k mile People First warranty, 3yr / 36k roadside assistance, and VW Car-Net service...
 
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