Saw this mentioned on Reddit. I can’t imagine what this does at this price.
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Saw this mentioned on Reddit. I can’t imagine what this does at this price.
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This is essentially an auction. They'll field offers and decide which buyer+price they want to take.
I recall the Boxster being "affordable" when it launched.
I think it was like $35K at the time.
What do they start at now?
Is there even still a Boxster?
I think it was like $35K at the time.
What do they start at now?
Is there even still a Boxster?
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The new ones I have seen recently are all over 100k+.
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Why are we painting cars the color of wet cement and diarrhea?
911 S/Ts on BAT go for $7-$800k:
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The S/T doesn't seem different enough from a GT3 Touring to justify the price delta, but they're limited edition 911s and that's why they're fetching such a premium
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The S/T doesn't seem different enough from a GT3 Touring to justify the price delta, but they're limited edition 911s and that's why they're fetching such a premium
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They've lost the plot - look at the size of them even against Wide G of F body they are freaking huge and need to go on a diet. Plus there is no need for Carbon ceramic brakes or center locks for 99% of new 911 drivers, they just look the business.
Its all crazy madness that is taking away from Ferry Porsches vision and playing into the celebrity money cult of crass.
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I mean, maybe it's just me but I don't feel like it's more desirable than a Porsche worth 10% of that.
The Porsche tax is a bit weird but as long as people are paying it, it'll be there. Everyone else has left the chat.
The Porsche tax is a bit weird but as long as people are paying it, it'll be there. Everyone else has left the chat.
Nice, that's my local dealer. Clearly they're not interested in making a quick deal. I'd much rather have the 997 GT2 they had in the showroom when I was there the other week. The sales guy I spoke with at the time guestimated an asking price of $400k for that car.
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Part of this "nonsense" is purchasing hard assets as a hedge against inflation. Cash is trash.....what else can you do with your excess money? Market is overinflated. Housing is overinflated.
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Porsche market is too. Unfortunately what has happened is the collector/status market has moved from Ferrari to Porsche. Buying cars for MSRP that are instantly worth more. Doing back room deals with dealers to move product at MSRP but signed deals to trade back in for the next special model, etc. All this was endemic in Ferrari up until recently….though it has been growing in Porsche for at least a decade. It’s weird how you can walk into a Ferrari store and actually buy something new on the floor for sticker, but Porsche acts like their base 911 is some sort of Aperta. Strange world.
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It's crazy.
I have a friend who is a Porsche fanatic and collector. He has quite an assortment of 992 cars--including a couple STs, a Dakar, multiple flavors of GT3, a Sport Classic, as well as a handful of Turbos. He also has a pretty good collection of the 991 special editions along with a bunch of air-cooled Porsches including a Singer. I've been lucky enough to drive or ride in most of them.
Having experienced most of those cars, I don't understand the 992 special edition prices AT ALL. Not only does the S/T not seem significantly (any?) better than a GT3 Touring to me, I don't think ANY of the GT3 variants are amazing road cars. That engine, while magical at full spin, is pretty gutless down low. In order to make it fun, you have to wring it out. And, doing so results in speeds that are psychotic on public roads. The limits are just so high, and the cars are so high-strung, that you cannot truly enjoy them in the real world. I suspect they are AMAZING on a track. But, that is a pretty specialized use case that I doubt many S/T buyers actually partake in.
To be fair, my buddy who owns the cars totally disagrees with me. He thinks the 992 S/T is pinnacle street car. And, seeing as how he is Porsche's target demographic (and I cant afford a single option on those build sheets, let alone an entire car), I suspect Porsche knows their customers and knows what they are doing building and pricing these cars.
I have a friend who is a Porsche fanatic and collector. He has quite an assortment of 992 cars--including a couple STs, a Dakar, multiple flavors of GT3, a Sport Classic, as well as a handful of Turbos. He also has a pretty good collection of the 991 special editions along with a bunch of air-cooled Porsches including a Singer. I've been lucky enough to drive or ride in most of them.
Having experienced most of those cars, I don't understand the 992 special edition prices AT ALL. Not only does the S/T not seem significantly (any?) better than a GT3 Touring to me, I don't think ANY of the GT3 variants are amazing road cars. That engine, while magical at full spin, is pretty gutless down low. In order to make it fun, you have to wring it out. And, doing so results in speeds that are psychotic on public roads. The limits are just so high, and the cars are so high-strung, that you cannot truly enjoy them in the real world. I suspect they are AMAZING on a track. But, that is a pretty specialized use case that I doubt many S/T buyers actually partake in.
To be fair, my buddy who owns the cars totally disagrees with me. He thinks the 992 S/T is pinnacle street car. And, seeing as how he is Porsche's target demographic (and I cant afford a single option on those build sheets, let alone an entire car), I suspect Porsche knows their customers and knows what they are doing building and pricing these cars.
A no option Boxster starts at $79.5k
1997 Boxster base MSRP $41.2k
Inflation calculator is saying the base 2025 Boxster is cheaper than the 1997 version.
$39.5k v 41.2k
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Yes, but I don't think a no-option Boxter actually exists in the real world.
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