Looks really nice in Red. I wouldn't mind throwing a set of those wheels on my rex!
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9-2X Pics at Autospies.
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Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (DCS)
we had this new SAABURU( actually the 93x..2.5RS motor) come into the dealership for the techs to get familiar with before the test drive invites...It was nothing really special..felt and looks just like a subaru..
I really dont know how Saab/GM came up with this concept to help saab sell more yuppie chariots.
isnt the scooby priced less anyway?
we had this new SAABURU( actually the 93x..2.5RS motor) come into the dealership for the techs to get familiar with before the test drive invites...It was nothing really special..felt and looks just like a subaru..
I really dont know how Saab/GM came up with this concept to help saab sell more yuppie chariots.
isnt the scooby priced less anyway?
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (bgluckman)
well the subaru isnt identical thats why. she likes the front end styling of the current SAAB line-up, and the interior, while slightly different, is still different enough for her.
Sure, common sense would say why pay more for an identical mechanical package... but when it comes to automobiles, there is more than whats under the skn that counts to some people.
| Quote, originally posted by bgluckman » |
Um, why would she chose to spend $3,000 more on this over the identical Subaru? Especially considering that the Subaru will probably depreciate more slowly in the long-run? |
well the subaru isnt identical thats why. she likes the front end styling of the current SAAB line-up, and the interior, while slightly different, is still different enough for her.
Sure, common sense would say why pay more for an identical mechanical package... but when it comes to automobiles, there is more than whats under the skn that counts to some people.
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (ClownCar)
the 9-7....a Chevy Trailblazer with a "Saab" front.
GM is trying to mainstream Saab a bit.
the 9-2x....frankly....it still looks like a saab....a smaller 9-5 wagon...has the same lines
Modified by GT17V at 5:57 PM 5-9-2004
| Quote, originally posted by ClownCar » |
| The Saab 9-2X is, and will remain, one of those pathetic badge engineering hatchet jobs to ever hit the automotive industry. GM seems to be oblivious to the potential damage that it will do to the Saab brand just to put some cheap cars on US Saab dealer lots. |
the 9-7....a Chevy Trailblazer with a "Saab" front.
GM is trying to mainstream Saab a bit.
the 9-2x....frankly....it still looks like a saab....a smaller 9-5 wagon...has the same lines
Modified by GT17V at 5:57 PM 5-9-2004
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·Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (johnroche)
Actually, besides the front clip, the taillights and the hatch panel, there's no difference. The '05 Impreza receives the same interior treatment as the 9-2X. For $3K, I can live with the Subaru's front clip.
| Quote, originally posted by johnroche » |
| well the subaru isnt identical thats why. she likes the front end styling of the current SAAB line-up, and the interior, while slightly different, is still different enough for her. |
Actually, besides the front clip, the taillights and the hatch panel, there's no difference. The '05 Impreza receives the same interior treatment as the 9-2X. For $3K, I can live with the Subaru's front clip.
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (Schnell-Corrado)
Yeah, the only thing you'll have to put up with are Subaru enthusiasts laughing their asses off at you for spending so much more.
| Quote, originally posted by Schnell-Corrado » |
| what a great car. I'd buy that over a subie anyday. Cops won't heckle ya, and hondas won't be revvin their **** at ya |
Yeah, the only thing you'll have to put up with are Subaru enthusiasts laughing their asses off at you for spending so much more.
Re: (Isis182)
They didn't even bother to hide the econo-car roots of the interior. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
I bet they even left the ignition on the steering column. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
They didn't even bother to hide the econo-car roots of the interior. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
I bet they even left the ignition on the steering column. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
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Re: (Jordi)
What, just like on the 9000, the 96, the 95, the Sonett II and every other Saab before them?
| Quote, originally posted by Jordi » |
| They didn't even bother to hide the econo-car roots of the interior. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif I bet they even left the ignition on the steering column. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif |
What, just like on the 9000, the 96, the 95, the Sonett II and every other Saab before them?
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (thrashvr6)
Gotta say, after looking at the pictures I am a bit dissapointed. My first car was an 1982 Saab 900 turbo, and I have had a soft spot for Saabs since then (though, if you think VOLKSWAGEN is unreliable....). I really don't have a problem with Saab and Subaru sharing platforms and components, they are often considered like minded companies (performance oriented, safe cars, innovative engineering, slightly quirky), but come on, this really is just a Subaru with a Saab badge. GM could have given the car a differnent personality and still used the same engine, and basic architecture. But they just rebadged...and thats just lazy
Gotta say, after looking at the pictures I am a bit dissapointed. My first car was an 1982 Saab 900 turbo, and I have had a soft spot for Saabs since then (though, if you think VOLKSWAGEN is unreliable....). I really don't have a problem with Saab and Subaru sharing platforms and components, they are often considered like minded companies (performance oriented, safe cars, innovative engineering, slightly quirky), but come on, this really is just a Subaru with a Saab badge. GM could have given the car a differnent personality and still used the same engine, and basic architecture. But they just rebadged...and thats just lazy
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (2.0nproud)
I really miss the point to the 9-2. I am going to bet that I will be far from the only one. Aren't these going to cost the same if not more than a 9-3? I recall hearing somewhere around $28k for a 9-2. Wow, that's a little crazy. Why not: A) buy a 9-3 with that money B) just buy a loaded WRX c) Buy an STi/Evo d) look at an R32, which is really what the 9-2 is trying to be (aka: a very classy WRX). I think this is going to be the biggest scam in the auto market is the 9-2 with the wrx motor is starting at $28k.
Is there something I;m missing here? Some awsome feature of the 9-2 that you can't get in a WRX?
I really miss the point to the 9-2. I am going to bet that I will be far from the only one. Aren't these going to cost the same if not more than a 9-3? I recall hearing somewhere around $28k for a 9-2. Wow, that's a little crazy. Why not: A) buy a 9-3 with that money B) just buy a loaded WRX c) Buy an STi/Evo d) look at an R32, which is really what the 9-2 is trying to be (aka: a very classy WRX). I think this is going to be the biggest scam in the auto market is the 9-2 with the wrx motor is starting at $28k.
Is there something I;m missing here? Some awsome feature of the 9-2 that you can't get in a WRX?
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (6cylVWguy)
Model MSRP
9-2X Linear $22,990 (Non-Turbo 165HP 2.5RS engine)
9-2X Aero $26,950 (227HP Turbo, 2.0L)
Well, for the price above.. you can buy a 03' WRX for $22k, 04' WRX for $25k loaded.
Standard 05' Legacy GT (2.5L Turbo) $26k
I will take the Legacy GT for $26k, Saab needs to drop the price here for simple badge engineering.. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
| Quote, originally posted by 6cylVWguy » |
| I really miss the point to the 9-2. I am going to bet that I will be far from the only one. Aren't these going to cost the same if not more than a 9-3? I recall hearing somewhere around $28k for a 9-2. Wow, that's a little crazy. Why not: A) buy a 9-3 with that money B) just buy a loaded WRX c) Buy an STi/Evo d) look at an R32, which is really what the 9-2 is trying to be (aka: a very classy WRX). I think this is going to be the biggest scam in the auto market is the 9-2 with the wrx motor is starting at $28k. Is there something I;m missing here? Some awsome feature of the 9-2 that you can't get in a WRX? |
Model MSRP
9-2X Linear $22,990 (Non-Turbo 165HP 2.5RS engine)
9-2X Aero $26,950 (227HP Turbo, 2.0L)
Well, for the price above.. you can buy a 03' WRX for $22k, 04' WRX for $25k loaded.
Standard 05' Legacy GT (2.5L Turbo) $26k
I will take the Legacy GT for $26k, Saab needs to drop the price here for simple badge engineering.. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (WReXinEFX)
Yup, this is pretty much what I am saying. Pretty much every car that is sold for the price of any of the 9-2 models seems like a better deal.
So the problem here is going to be the following. No one is going to buy the 9-2, especially after the initial hype about this model. Within six months there are going to be silly rebates on this car. After about a year, the 9-2 will be worth as much as a subaru Imprezza/WRX, and maybe even less!
At the moment, the 9-3 is pretty much the shining star of the saab lineup and even that could use a little more of everything in the performance department. GM is doing nothing good for saab. Saab is turning into the american brand that strictly badge conscious people buy. You want a classy GM or Subaru car, buy a saab. Saab is basically becoming a fancy trim package in the GM lineup. A real travesty!
| Quote, originally posted by WReXinEFX » |
Model MSRP 9-2X Linear $22,990 (Non-Turbo 165HP 2.5RS engine) 9-2X Aero $26,950 (227HP Turbo, 2.0L) Well, for the price above.. you can buy a 03' WRX for $22k, 04' WRX for $25k loaded. Standard 05' Legacy GT (2.5L Turbo) $26k I will take the Legacy GT for $26k, Saab needs to drop the price here for simple badge engineering.. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif |
Yup, this is pretty much what I am saying. Pretty much every car that is sold for the price of any of the 9-2 models seems like a better deal.
So the problem here is going to be the following. No one is going to buy the 9-2, especially after the initial hype about this model. Within six months there are going to be silly rebates on this car. After about a year, the 9-2 will be worth as much as a subaru Imprezza/WRX, and maybe even less!
At the moment, the 9-3 is pretty much the shining star of the saab lineup and even that could use a little more of everything in the performance department. GM is doing nothing good for saab. Saab is turning into the american brand that strictly badge conscious people buy. You want a classy GM or Subaru car, buy a saab. Saab is basically becoming a fancy trim package in the GM lineup. A real travesty!
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Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (6cylVWguy)
The reasons are economic. Saab needs to increase their sales in the short term and absolutely the best way to do that is with new vehicles that have development costs as low as the 9-2 and 9-7 involve. The "real" 9-2 and 9-7 are underway and in the meantime there will be lots of misguided grousing about Saab's "image," be it focused on ignition key placement, drivetrain or various other things that aren't consistent across the brand anyhow.
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| Quote, originally posted by 6cylVWguy » |
| I really miss the point to the 9-2. |
The reasons are economic. Saab needs to increase their sales in the short term and absolutely the best way to do that is with new vehicles that have development costs as low as the 9-2 and 9-7 involve. The "real" 9-2 and 9-7 are underway and in the meantime there will be lots of misguided grousing about Saab's "image," be it focused on ignition key placement, drivetrain or various other things that aren't consistent across the brand anyhow.
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·Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (PseudoEnthusiast)
So, um, how does 7000 additional sales per year that'll require heavy incentives to be met help Saab's bottom line or its image?
So, um, how does 7000 additional sales per year that'll require heavy incentives to be met help Saab's bottom line or its image?
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (bgluckman)
Part of the concept is to have more than two cars in the line, part of it is to get the 9-2X buyers, who will then move up the product line. I didn't like the concept of the 9-2X at first either, but lets face it, Saab has no image to people who actually buy cars in any numbers that matter. Saab at this point could through a Saab badge on feces and it wouldn't detract from the image because there isn't one.
Part of the concept is to have more than two cars in the line, part of it is to get the 9-2X buyers, who will then move up the product line. I didn't like the concept of the 9-2X at first either, but lets face it, Saab has no image to people who actually buy cars in any numbers that matter. Saab at this point could through a Saab badge on feces and it wouldn't detract from the image because there isn't one.
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (Double-V)
I can see the point of the first sentence, kind of. It would seem that moving up from a 9-2 would mean going to a 9-3. At least initally. Like going from a golf/jetta to passat. Not from a golf to phaeton or whatever the future model above the passat is going to be. I don't see saab being able to keep 9-2 owners in the saab family after they are done. They would have to get a fully loaded 9-3 which is not going to be as fast and lack awd compared to the 9-2. The 9-2 is nothing like any other saab. It seems to me that most people on here that drive an awd or rwd car are totally hooked on the driving experience. All saab has outside of the 9-2 is fwd cars, that aren't as fast and "driven properly" as the 9-2. So do the 9-2 owners move up to that horrible saab SUV that is coming up, or buy a dated 9-5, or what?
The economics of the 9-2 are non-existant. It's like the product planners didn't take economics into account. Why not just wait until the proper chassis is developed before they bring out the 9-2. Not that the WRX is bad, not at all, but it really doesn't seem to fit the company profile. Not only that but I'd be mad knowing that I can get an almost identical car for far less money. Hello...Cadillac Cimarron! Before you had luxo car built on crap platform for lots of money. Now you have sporty refined car, built on solid economy platform for lots of money. Some things never change with GM. I will likely NEVER buy a GM product ever. They just can't do anything right. Ford and Diamler Chrysler seem to have some hot cars coming out and quality is improving, GM just sits there doing the same old stuff.
| Quote, originally posted by Double-V » |
| Part of it is to get the 9-2X buyers, who will then move up the product line. I didn't like the concept of the 9-2X at first either, but lets face it, Saab has no image to people who actually buy cars in any numbers that matter. Saab at this point could through a Saab badge on feces and it wouldn't detract from the image because there isn't one. |
I can see the point of the first sentence, kind of. It would seem that moving up from a 9-2 would mean going to a 9-3. At least initally. Like going from a golf/jetta to passat. Not from a golf to phaeton or whatever the future model above the passat is going to be. I don't see saab being able to keep 9-2 owners in the saab family after they are done. They would have to get a fully loaded 9-3 which is not going to be as fast and lack awd compared to the 9-2. The 9-2 is nothing like any other saab. It seems to me that most people on here that drive an awd or rwd car are totally hooked on the driving experience. All saab has outside of the 9-2 is fwd cars, that aren't as fast and "driven properly" as the 9-2. So do the 9-2 owners move up to that horrible saab SUV that is coming up, or buy a dated 9-5, or what?
The economics of the 9-2 are non-existant. It's like the product planners didn't take economics into account. Why not just wait until the proper chassis is developed before they bring out the 9-2. Not that the WRX is bad, not at all, but it really doesn't seem to fit the company profile. Not only that but I'd be mad knowing that I can get an almost identical car for far less money. Hello...Cadillac Cimarron! Before you had luxo car built on crap platform for lots of money. Now you have sporty refined car, built on solid economy platform for lots of money. Some things never change with GM. I will likely NEVER buy a GM product ever. They just can't do anything right. Ford and Diamler Chrysler seem to have some hot cars coming out and quality is improving, GM just sits there doing the same old stuff.
Re: 9-2X Pics at Autospies. (6cylVWguy)
I would say that the WRX is much more than a solid economy car platform. It is by any measure an outright performance car, irrespective of its origins. And lets face it, every new Saab for the past 20 years has been built on another maker's platform, each of which had more humble origins than the target that Saab was aiming for. The 9-2X fits in very much with Saab's past and its "image".
I would say that the WRX is much more than a solid economy car platform. It is by any measure an outright performance car, irrespective of its origins. And lets face it, every new Saab for the past 20 years has been built on another maker's platform, each of which had more humble origins than the target that Saab was aiming for. The 9-2X fits in very much with Saab's past and its "image".
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