hey guys,
how much of differece do these calipers make vs. the stock 11"?
cheers,
Bryan
how much of differece do these calipers make vs. the stock 11"?
cheers,
Bryan
Girling G60 Calipers...
GTi_94
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Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (89gtiguy)
stock is 9.4, either solid or vented, unless you have a jetta gtx/gli which came with 10.1's like the mk3's, corrado G60 has 11"(setup I have, and the setup the audi girling g60 calipers fit) and VR6's came with 11.something
I wanted to know how much of a difference these actually make and whether it is actually going to give me any kind of a improvement and of what sort....
cheers,
Bryan
stock is 9.4, either solid or vented, unless you have a jetta gtx/gli which came with 10.1's like the mk3's, corrado G60 has 11"(setup I have, and the setup the audi girling g60 calipers fit) and VR6's came with 11.something
I wanted to know how much of a difference these actually make and whether it is actually going to give me any kind of a improvement and of what sort....
cheers,
Bryan
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (GTi_94)
Yea there is a Difference even compared to Girling 54s which are stock Corrado G60 Calipers the difference is from a Monopiston system to a Dual Piston setup it has almost a 50% braking Difference even though it weights more that dont matter cause both the Calipers are still lighter then 1 of your seats. If you have it i suggest you do it. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Yea there is a Difference even compared to Girling 54s which are stock Corrado G60 Calipers the difference is from a Monopiston system to a Dual Piston setup it has almost a 50% braking Difference even though it weights more that dont matter cause both the Calipers are still lighter then 1 of your seats. If you have it i suggest you do it. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (94Dub2.0)
Alright my Girling 60s are gonna be on as soon as I refurbish my G60 spindles. I have another question though. Will everything from the A-arms, k frame and all the things from the Corrados front fit on a MK 2?
Modified by 89gtiguy at 10:44 PM 10-19-2004
Alright my Girling 60s are gonna be on as soon as I refurbish my G60 spindles. I have another question though. Will everything from the A-arms, k frame and all the things from the Corrados front fit on a MK 2?
Modified by 89gtiguy at 10:44 PM 10-19-2004
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Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (89gtiguy)
Corrado is a mkII, so yes. As for the previous persons comment about the weight, unsprung weight is bad for handling, the overall weight of the car is not a concern when discussing the weight of the calipers.
| Quote, originally posted by 89gtiguy » |
| Alright my Girling 60s are gonna be on as soon as I refurbish my G60 spindles. I have another question though. Will everything from the A-arms, k frame and all the things from the Corrados front fit on a MK 2? Modified by 89gtiguy at 10:44 PM 10-19-2004 |
Corrado is a mkII, so yes. As for the previous persons comment about the weight, unsprung weight is bad for handling, the overall weight of the car is not a concern when discussing the weight of the calipers.
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (94Dub2.0)
comparing a caliper (which is unsprung weight) to a seat (which is not) is like comparing apples and oranges http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
| Quote, originally posted by 94Dub2.0 » |
| Yea there is a Difference even compared to Girling 54s which are stock Corrado G60 Calipers the difference is from a Monopiston system to a Dual Piston setup it has almost a 50% braking Difference even though it weights more that dont matter cause both the Calipers are still lighter then 1 of your seats. If you have it i suggest you do it. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif |
comparing a caliper (which is unsprung weight) to a seat (which is not) is like comparing apples and oranges http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (Black92EightValve)
Unless it is a VR...All G60 parts are the same. And yeah the calipers make a huge difference over the 54 single pistons
| Quote, originally posted by Black92EightValve » |
Corrado is a mkII, so yes. As for the previous persons comment about the weight, unsprung weight is bad for handling, the overall weight of the car is not a concern when discussing the weight of the calipers. |
Unless it is a VR...All G60 parts are the same. And yeah the calipers make a huge difference over the 54 single pistons
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (GTi_94)
I just installed Corrado Spindles, Corrado g60 ATE slotted rotors, new Girling 60's calipers, new 22 MC and they difference is amazing.
As for the MC, I went with a 22 and it worsk great. But now I am thinking I will go mk4 calipers in the rear and then I will need to go to a 23.2 or 25.4 MC.
I just installed Corrado Spindles, Corrado g60 ATE slotted rotors, new Girling 60's calipers, new 22 MC and they difference is amazing.
As for the MC, I went with a 22 and it worsk great. But now I am thinking I will go mk4 calipers in the rear and then I will need to go to a 23.2 or 25.4 MC.
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Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (20V'er)
Why go to a bigger master for the mk4 rear calipers? Do the mk4 aluminum calipers have the same diameter piston then a cast mk2/3 rear caliper?
Why go to a bigger master for the mk4 rear calipers? Do the mk4 aluminum calipers have the same diameter piston then a cast mk2/3 rear caliper?
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (GLI_driver_found)
I was wondering about the MK4 calipers , too. Im gonna be going 5 lug swap pretty soon now I'm, gonna have the stub axles from my old corrado and just gonna get those worked on. Are the MK4 rears the same size as the corrado rears?
I was wondering about the MK4 calipers , too. Im gonna be going 5 lug swap pretty soon now I'm, gonna have the stub axles from my old corrado and just gonna get those worked on. Are the MK4 rears the same size as the corrado rears?
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (89Deuce)
seats are unsprung weight just like the calipers. Sprung weight is something that makes the car go...i.e. motor. I don't remember the last time that my seats helped my car to move.
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The MC on the Audi 5000 turbo and other cars that came with the Girling 60 calipers is a 23 mm MC vs. the 22mm MC that came on the Corrado. From what I understand, you don't need to change the MC if you have a 22mm setup, but I have not tried this setup as of yet. This is just what some Audi/VW mechanics I work with have told me.
The MKIV rear calipers have slightly larger pistons on some cars (R32) that came with the larger rear rotors, but the biggest difference was the piston size in the front calipers, hence the larger MC.
Modified by timmy5150 at 1:46 AM 10-31-2004
seats are unsprung weight just like the calipers. Sprung weight is something that makes the car go...i.e. motor. I don't remember the last time that my seats helped my car to move.
The MC on the Audi 5000 turbo and other cars that came with the Girling 60 calipers is a 23 mm MC vs. the 22mm MC that came on the Corrado. From what I understand, you don't need to change the MC if you have a 22mm setup, but I have not tried this setup as of yet. This is just what some Audi/VW mechanics I work with have told me.
The MKIV rear calipers have slightly larger pistons on some cars (R32) that came with the larger rear rotors, but the biggest difference was the piston size in the front calipers, hence the larger MC.
Modified by timmy5150 at 1:46 AM 10-31-2004
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Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (timmy5150)
Actually, sprung weight is anything that rests its weight on the springs(Like seats,body,engine,transaxle,etc) The wheels, spindles, brake rotors and calipers are all "unsprung" they rest on the ground. Well, that probably makes no sense cuz Im retarded, but thats how it is.
| Quote, originally posted by timmy5150 » |
| seats are unsprung weight just like the calipers. Sprung weight is something that makes the car go...i.e. motor. I don't remember the last time that my seats helped my car to move.
Modified by timmy5150 at 1:46 AM 10-31-2004 |
Actually, sprung weight is anything that rests its weight on the springs(Like seats,body,engine,transaxle,etc) The wheels, spindles, brake rotors and calipers are all "unsprung" they rest on the ground. Well, that probably makes no sense cuz Im retarded, but thats how it is.
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (2002maniac)
exactly. Seats are sprung weight... along with the rest of everything in your car that is suspended by your suspension.
The only parts of the car that classify as "unsprung weight" are the things that are not supported by the suspension. That means. that everything between where the A-arm meets the chassis to where the steering knuckle bolts to the strut, and everything between where the rear beam connects to the chassis to where it connects to the struts...is unsprung mass. Everything else is sprung.
| Quote, originally posted by 2002maniac » |
Actually, sprung weight is anything that rests its weight on the springs(Like seats,body,engine,transaxle,etc) The wheels, spindles, brake rotors and calipers are all "unsprung" they rest on the ground. Well, that probably makes no sense cuz Im retarded, but thats how it is. |
exactly. Seats are sprung weight... along with the rest of everything in your car that is suspended by your suspension.
The only parts of the car that classify as "unsprung weight" are the things that are not supported by the suspension. That means. that everything between where the A-arm meets the chassis to where the steering knuckle bolts to the strut, and everything between where the rear beam connects to the chassis to where it connects to the struts...is unsprung mass. Everything else is sprung.
Re: Girling G60 Calipers... (timmy5150)
Something that is sprung or unsprung has nothing to do with whether it makes the car go or not...the seats are supported by the springs of the car...the calipers are not...therefore unsprung weight.
EDIT: Yeah...what they said!! Man...you guys are quick!!
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Modified by A4_1.8T_Q at 7:37 AM 10-31-2004
| Quote, originally posted by timmy5150 » |
| seats are unsprung weight just like the calipers. Sprung weight is something that makes the car go...i.e. motor. I don't remember the last time that my seats helped my car to move.
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Something that is sprung or unsprung has nothing to do with whether it makes the car go or not...the seats are supported by the springs of the car...the calipers are not...therefore unsprung weight.
EDIT: Yeah...what they said!! Man...you guys are quick!!
Modified by A4_1.8T_Q at 7:37 AM 10-31-2004
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