I am a VR6 driver and am looking in to getting a TDi new Jetta with DSG. I have never driven a TDI so I want to know if they are quick at least. Am not expecting a Corvette but I at least want something thats kid of quick.
Acceleration on the TDi Engine??
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I am a VR6 driver and am looking in to getting a TDi new Jetta with DSG. I have never driven a TDI so I want to know if they are quick at least. Am not expecting a Corvette but I at least want something thats kid of quick.
Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (GreenBullet)
These machines are crazy quick. The torque is amazing. My past two cars were the VR6 Passat and V6 Accord, both pretty quick cars. I don't miss them at all.
| Quote, originally posted by GreenBullet » |
| I am a VR6 driver and am looking in to getting a TDi new Jetta with DSG. I have never driven a TDI so I want to know if they are quick at least. Am not expecting a Corvette but I at least want something thats kid of quick. |
These machines are crazy quick. The torque is amazing. My past two cars were the VR6 Passat and V6 Accord, both pretty quick cars. I don't miss them at all.
Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (GreenBullet)
Well, if you believe a 0-60 time of more than 10 seconds is "quick"...
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Seriously, they are the slowest of the VW lineup. In the MKIV era, even the 2.0 was faster.
On the other hand, they are quite driveable -- much more so than a hybrid.
Well, if you believe a 0-60 time of more than 10 seconds is "quick"...
Seriously, they are the slowest of the VW lineup. In the MKIV era, even the 2.0 was faster.
On the other hand, they are quite driveable -- much more so than a hybrid.
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Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (GreenBullet)
Thats the thing I read everywhere that they are as slow as a turtle. A 0-60 time of 11.60 thats a freaking turtle
Thats the thing I read everywhere that they are as slow as a turtle. A 0-60 time of 11.60 thats a freaking turtle
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Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (GreenBullet)
I think I just have to go test drive one to find out for myself
I think I just have to go test drive one to find out for myself
The TDI engine is more than sufficient for the way most people actually drive. Doesn't matter what the numbers are. The average person does not do zero to 100 km/h in 6 seconds, not even close. The TDI engine has ample torque in the RPM range that most people actually use.
Keep in mind that the TDI version is designed to be a daily-driver vehicle, it is not designed to be a race car.
Keep in mind that the TDI version is designed to be a daily-driver vehicle, it is not designed to be a race car.
Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (GreenBullet)
Drive one. No way you'll compare it to a turtle, I can assure you.
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| Thats the thing I read everywhere that they are as slow as a turtle. A 0-60 time of 11.60 thats a freaking turtle |
Drive one. No way you'll compare it to a turtle, I can assure you.
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Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (Tuxedo)
I just wanted opinions because am exited when I saw the TQ numbers but when I saw some of the numbers I kind of doubted it.
I just wanted opinions because am exited when I saw the TQ numbers but when I saw some of the numbers I kind of doubted it.
I don't own a TDI but a 2.5l which may be slightly off topic, but if my memory recollects, the 2.5l 0-60mph is advertised at 9.3 seconds.
I clocked my self with a regular watch and it was more like 7 seconds. I will actually do it again with a friend and a stop watch. Call me crazy but that's what it was!
I clocked my self with a regular watch and it was more like 7 seconds. I will actually do it again with a friend and a stop watch. Call me crazy but that's what it was!
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Re: (v_dj_w)
Officially the Germans auto makers commonly under estimate the 0-60 times of their cars. so....
is not uncommon.
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Regarding the acceleration of the TDI Jetta and Golf A5 well remember that TORQUE is more important than horsepower in everyday driving situations.
The gas 4 cyl cars might have more HP but they will feel slower than the TDI 4 cyl.
I say go for the TDI and put a quality ECU chip in it. It will KILL the 2.5 gas engine .
Modified by golf strom at 5:22 PM 7-26-2005
Officially the Germans auto makers commonly under estimate the 0-60 times of their cars. so....
| Quote, originally posted by v_dj_w » |
| I own a 2.5l which may be slightly off topic, but if my memory recollects, the 2.5l 0-60mph is advertised at 9.3 seconds. I clocked my self with a regular watch and it was more like 7 seconds. I will actually do it again with a friend and a stop watch. Call me crazy but that's what it was! |
Regarding the acceleration of the TDI Jetta and Golf A5 well remember that TORQUE is more important than horsepower in everyday driving situations.
The gas 4 cyl cars might have more HP but they will feel slower than the TDI 4 cyl.
I say go for the TDI and put a quality ECU chip in it. It will KILL the 2.5 gas engine .
Modified by golf strom at 5:22 PM 7-26-2005
Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (GreenBullet)
Yes, the TQ numbers are indeed high, but (1) this is the crank and the gearing is tall, and (2) the torque rolls off once you get to about 2000 RPM, so you have to upshift more often to stay in the peak torque range.
Meanwhile, the upcoming 2.0T will have more torque and will also deliver it all the way up to around 5000 RPM before it even starts to roll off, long after the TDI has redlined. This means that when accelerating you can stay in lower gear longer and deliver more torque to the wheels.
A TDI is a nice, driveable, economical car, but the models sold in the U.S. aren't "quick" by any of the usual metrics (0-60, top gear pass, etc.).
| Quote, originally posted by GreenBullet » |
| I just wanted opinions because am exited when I saw the TQ numbers but when I saw some of the numbers I kind of doubted it. |
Yes, the TQ numbers are indeed high, but (1) this is the crank and the gearing is tall, and (2) the torque rolls off once you get to about 2000 RPM, so you have to upshift more often to stay in the peak torque range.
Meanwhile, the upcoming 2.0T will have more torque and will also deliver it all the way up to around 5000 RPM before it even starts to roll off, long after the TDI has redlined. This means that when accelerating you can stay in lower gear longer and deliver more torque to the wheels.
A TDI is a nice, driveable, economical car, but the models sold in the U.S. aren't "quick" by any of the usual metrics (0-60, top gear pass, etc.).
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My last car was an Infiniti G35 sedan 2004 with auto trans, 260HP and 260 torque. It was crazy fast for me. But, I enjoy the Jetta TDI more. It is plenty fast off the line, no pronblem cruising. Sport mode is great with the DSG trans. I would not think about flipping someone off and trying to get away using speed but driving distance might get you off the hook (LOL). Try it, you'll buy it.
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It's very fast accelerating from 0-30 or so, and the torque makes highway passing (60-80mph acceleration) easy. It does run out of breath about 4000rpm or so and you won't win drag races (unmodified anyway), but for daily driving I never miss my 1.8T Jetta.
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You are a trip!
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| I would not think about flipping someone off and trying to get away using speed but driving distance might get you off the hook (LOL). |
You are a trip!
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| Try it, you'll buy it. |
Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (GreenBullet)
Drive it for yourself. I had a 99 Passat V6 for 7 years - I test drove an 05 Jetta 2.5 and TDI. I went in with an open mind, but was honestly dissappointed by the TDI. It was just too sluggish for a brand new car. If I did 90% highway driving, I would have gone for it. Once you are up to speed it pulls very hard. but I found the 2.5 much more satisfying and went with it instead. I have never regretted my decision on the 2.5. Good luck!
Drive it for yourself. I had a 99 Passat V6 for 7 years - I test drove an 05 Jetta 2.5 and TDI. I went in with an open mind, but was honestly dissappointed by the TDI. It was just too sluggish for a brand new car. If I did 90% highway driving, I would have gone for it. Once you are up to speed it pulls very hard. but I found the 2.5 much more satisfying and went with it instead. I have never regretted my decision on the 2.5. Good luck!
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Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (Tahoe)
Like I mentioned before if you get a decent tuning chip from GIAC or one of the other reputable brands this TDI is a torque monster and can beat a 1.8T equipped engine. If you can see if you can find a person that has a tuning chip equipped TDI and take it out for a spin, trust me you WILL be convinced that the TDI is the car for you!
Like I mentioned before if you get a decent tuning chip from GIAC or one of the other reputable brands this TDI is a torque monster and can beat a 1.8T equipped engine. If you can see if you can find a person that has a tuning chip equipped TDI and take it out for a spin, trust me you WILL be convinced that the TDI is the car for you!
Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (GreenBullet)
I wanted the TDI as well to save on fuel cost. With current gas costs and my driving habbits, the savings are about $500 annually when I did the math comparing the 2.5 to the TDI. Why did I choose the 2.5? I think the gasoline engine will prove to be as reliable and long lived as the past VW gas engine vehicles I've owned. Plus, I think that the long term maintenance costs on the 2.5 will be reasonable as well (no timing belt). Also, I think our deisel market will grow when the diesel fuel standard is changed and more of the Euro diesel vehicles will be available here. My understyanding is that the diesel engines that we receive are detuned to run on US diesel. Then I think that I would be willing to ditch the SUV and get a diesel VW.
I wanted the TDI as well to save on fuel cost. With current gas costs and my driving habbits, the savings are about $500 annually when I did the math comparing the 2.5 to the TDI. Why did I choose the 2.5? I think the gasoline engine will prove to be as reliable and long lived as the past VW gas engine vehicles I've owned. Plus, I think that the long term maintenance costs on the 2.5 will be reasonable as well (no timing belt). Also, I think our deisel market will grow when the diesel fuel standard is changed and more of the Euro diesel vehicles will be available here. My understyanding is that the diesel engines that we receive are detuned to run on US diesel. Then I think that I would be willing to ditch the SUV and get a diesel VW.
Re: Acceleration on the TDi Engine?? (golf strom)
This is such complete BS.
A 150 HP 1.8T matched the performance of the 150 HP TDI P.D. engine from Europe in the GTI in every metric -- top speed, 0-60, and 1/4 mile.
While torque (at the wheels, not at the crank) has a lot to do with driveability, it's hp that determines how fast a car is going to be. When you can chip the 100 HP TDI engine (or 105 or whatever it is nowaways) to 180 hp (the unchipped 1.8T output), then you might expect parity.
Meanwhile, your 1.8T competitor can also go out and get a GIAC chip to 210 hp or so, and then it's game over again.
To those who are shopping the TDI -- sure, go drive one and see what you think -- folks who are claiming a 105 hp engine is going to even come close to matching the performance of a 150 hp engine (2.5) or 180+ hp engine (1.8T engine or VR6 engine) are batty.
| Quote, originally posted by golf strom » |
| Like I mentioned before if you get a decent tuning chip from GIAC or one of the other reputable brands this TDI is a torque monster and can beat a 1.8T equipped engine. |
This is such complete BS.
A 150 HP 1.8T matched the performance of the 150 HP TDI P.D. engine from Europe in the GTI in every metric -- top speed, 0-60, and 1/4 mile.
While torque (at the wheels, not at the crank) has a lot to do with driveability, it's hp that determines how fast a car is going to be. When you can chip the 100 HP TDI engine (or 105 or whatever it is nowaways) to 180 hp (the unchipped 1.8T output), then you might expect parity.
Meanwhile, your 1.8T competitor can also go out and get a GIAC chip to 210 hp or so, and then it's game over again.
To those who are shopping the TDI -- sure, go drive one and see what you think -- folks who are claiming a 105 hp engine is going to even come close to matching the performance of a 150 hp engine (2.5) or 180+ hp engine (1.8T engine or VR6 engine) are batty.
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