You just install the stick with the cruise control buttons, apparently?
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Is Installing Cruise Control in My Trendline this Freaking Simple?
ABrz...
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Re: (Gigitt)
okay..
so there appears to be some confusion on this one and if I can get OEM cruise into my MkiV.. i'm up for it. Does anybody know how it can be done.. and which cars.
| Quote, originally posted by Gigitt » |
| You need Stalk, Wiring, Control Box (maybe 2 x) and Sensors for Clutch Brake and Accel... it will need to be CAN based (Mk4) so that Vag-Com can detect it. I don't think your ecu needs cruise bits as the cruise control box is picking up sensors for safety and then just relaying an assumed accell position to ecu to make it gogo. |
okay..
so there appears to be some confusion on this one and if I can get OEM cruise into my MkiV.. i'm up for it. Does anybody know how it can be done.. and which cars.
Re: (craig_m5)
I AM *TELLING* YOU IT ISN'T A DBW CAR!
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My point was, your comment of "the pedal moves under my foot" makes it pretty clear. In a Drive By Wire car (i.e. electronic throttle, not cable throttle) the accelerator pedal is connected to a black box on the firewall behind the dash. There are sensors in that box that detect the movement of the pedal, and send the pedal/throttle position to the ECU electronically. The pedal will not move by itself in a DBW car.
Modified by IML337 at 3:14 PM 11-14-2005
| Quote, originally posted by craig_m5 » |
err, no.. i guess that 's the root of my question, does the pedal move under the feet of you DBW people ? whilst my pedal may be cable connected to something.. i don't know what it is... anyways.. i'm fairly sure my car is not DBW. C |
I AM *TELLING* YOU IT ISN'T A DBW CAR!
My point was, your comment of "the pedal moves under my foot" makes it pretty clear. In a Drive By Wire car (i.e. electronic throttle, not cable throttle) the accelerator pedal is connected to a black box on the firewall behind the dash. There are sensors in that box that detect the movement of the pedal, and send the pedal/throttle position to the ECU electronically. The pedal will not move by itself in a DBW car.
Modified by IML337 at 3:14 PM 11-14-2005
No it does not. Why would the pedal move? That just adds more motors, more linkages, and more things to go wrong - remember, our cars are cheap and built to a budget. Much better just to use the stepper motor at the throttle body and provide no feedback to the driver.
Open the bonnet, take off the cover and look at the throttle body if you want to know whether you have a cable or not.
Open the bonnet, take off the cover and look at the throttle body if you want to know whether you have a cable or not.
I read your question, and Timmeh and I have both answered it repeatedly. You car is non DBW. I don't understand what's so hard about pulling off a cover... takes literally 20 seconds, maybe 1 minute if you have to undo some screws.
How about sticking your head in the footwell and seeing if there is a cable attached to the right pedal? None on my DBW MkIV.
How about sticking your head in the footwell and seeing if there is a cable attached to the right pedal? None on my DBW MkIV.
Re: (Langers)
you know what.. we could talk for hours about how you answered my question... at least I'm sure you could, but frankly I've got beers to drink with real people .. and your a d i c k
question stands.
does anybody know how to fit cruise to a NON DBW Golf.
you know what.. we could talk for hours about how you answered my question... at least I'm sure you could, but frankly I've got beers to drink with real people .. and your a d i c k
question stands.
does anybody know how to fit cruise to a NON DBW Golf.
Re: (craig_m5)
OK, this is starting to get frustrating
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| Quote, originally posted by craig_m5 » |
anybody know how cruise control works in a non DBW car ? |
OK, this is starting to get frustrating
| Quote, originally posted by Gigitt » |
It works by using a vacuum system (or stepper motor) and this pulls a cable attached to your throttle body (same point as your accel pedal) that is why your pedal moves with the cruise on. |
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Re: (IML337)
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Craig - which question do you want answered? The one about how it works on non DBW, or the one about how to fit it to a non DBW car? Or both? The former has already been answered.
| Quote, originally posted by IML337 » |
OK, this is starting to get frustrating
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Craig - which question do you want answered? The one about how it works on non DBW, or the one about how to fit it to a non DBW car? Or both? The former has already been answered.
Re: (Adam from Oz)
The reason I did not get the comfortline was because none of the features I would use, not even the cruise control (it sends me to sleep on long trips). I plan on putting 17 inch wheels on the car and have fixed up the stereo anyway.
But if having the cruise control is as simple as installing the stick, then may as well have it. The auto-dimming mirrors and auto wipers etc give me the shiits (having driven BMW's with this) and I drive with my lights on all of the time anyway (after being privy to the Telstra results on this issue - re 1/2 the accident rate).
The other thing that pisses me off is the rear wiper turning automatically on when reverse is selected in the rain. This shiits me to no end (am going to get it turned off).
On my next trip to Germany I am going to go to the VW factory accessory shop and pick up some dark red detail seat covers and door and interior trims etc, decent sports steering wheel, 17 inch alloy wheels, gearshift knob, etc. etc. For the same $2000 euros odd I can get a more customised finish.
| Quote, originally posted by Adam from Oz » |
| Sounds like you are slowly converting your Trendline into Comfortline spec...Much easier to start off with the real thing.... |
The reason I did not get the comfortline was because none of the features I would use, not even the cruise control (it sends me to sleep on long trips). I plan on putting 17 inch wheels on the car and have fixed up the stereo anyway.
But if having the cruise control is as simple as installing the stick, then may as well have it. The auto-dimming mirrors and auto wipers etc give me the shiits (having driven BMW's with this) and I drive with my lights on all of the time anyway (after being privy to the Telstra results on this issue - re 1/2 the accident rate).
The other thing that pisses me off is the rear wiper turning automatically on when reverse is selected in the rain. This shiits me to no end (am going to get it turned off).
On my next trip to Germany I am going to go to the VW factory accessory shop and pick up some dark red detail seat covers and door and interior trims etc, decent sports steering wheel, 17 inch alloy wheels, gearshift knob, etc. etc. For the same $2000 euros odd I can get a more customised finish.
Re: (Langers)
ok, lets settle down here boys.
so Timmeh and Klaus are both saying that your car is indeed NOTdrive by wire DBW
so does anyone know, which MKIV's are and are NOT DBW?
or MK III's and V's? cuz it seems like everyone wants to know.
NICE PEACEFUL resolution boys...or I'll have to start throwing wontons
Modified by seph at 3:44 PM 11-14-2005
ok, lets settle down here boys.
so Timmeh and Klaus are both saying that your car is indeed NOTdrive by wire DBW
so does anyone know, which MKIV's are and are NOT DBW?
or MK III's and V's? cuz it seems like everyone wants to know.
NICE PEACEFUL resolution boys...or I'll have to start throwing wontons
Modified by seph at 3:44 PM 11-14-2005
Re: (ABrz...)
What's so annoying about that? (seriously - I reckon that's a good idea!)
| Quote, originally posted by ABrz... » |
The other thing that pisses me off is the rear wiper turning automatically on when reverse is selected in the rain. This shiits me to no end (am going to get it turned off). |
What's so annoying about that? (seriously - I reckon that's a good idea!)
Re: (ABrz...)
WTF is going on here !!!!
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The throttle body on all mk4's was motorised . Cruise control works the same on all mk4's . Stalk sends a signal to ecu which in turn holds the throttle position in a set location . It then uses the speed sensor to change the throttle position . I'm pretty sure mk3's operated the way it was described earlier . Mk5's are pretty much the same . I'm not sure if the 1.6 is dbw or cable , but it shouldnt matter as the cruise works the same as mk4 . Theoretically all you have to do is fit a new stalk , re code ecu and activate cruise and it should work . Ive never tried it though so I dont know if it will work
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WTF is going on here !!!!
The throttle body on all mk4's was motorised . Cruise control works the same on all mk4's . Stalk sends a signal to ecu which in turn holds the throttle position in a set location . It then uses the speed sensor to change the throttle position . I'm pretty sure mk3's operated the way it was described earlier . Mk5's are pretty much the same . I'm not sure if the 1.6 is dbw or cable , but it shouldnt matter as the cruise works the same as mk4 . Theoretically all you have to do is fit a new stalk , re code ecu and activate cruise and it should work . Ive never tried it though so I dont know if it will work
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