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Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (Golf20V)

Quote, originally posted by Golf20V »
I read somewhere that borg warner is still the supplier. From what I remember it's a new version of the K03S.

I have pdf at home, but it's a modified, and I think majorly modified "K03".... here's a pic of it:
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Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (Golf20V)

Quote, originally posted by Golf20V »
I read somewhere that borg warner is still the supplier. From what I remember it's a new version of the K03S.

that's what I was understanding, then I heard that kkk and borg warner merged, which may be bad or good, depending on whose prints they are using
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Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (Thatguy03)

Quote, originally posted by Thatguy03 »
that's what I was understanding, then I heard that kkk and borg warner merged, which may be bad or good, depending on whose prints they are using
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They have always been the same company.
Most of the modifications were made so that the turbo could be an integrated part of the exhaust manifold. The turbo and manifold are one piece and are replaced, if necessary, together.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (caj1)

KKK and Schwitzer combined to make borg-warner IIRC.
They haven't been the same until they merged.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (syntrix)

Quote, originally posted by syntrix »
KKK and Schwitzer combined to make borg-warner IIRC.
They haven't been the same until they merged.

Right.. I guess my point was "Borg Warner" has never been separate from KKK turbolader.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (VRSICK)

Quote, originally posted by VRSICK »
so, ultumatly, the turbo is still pint size?? http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif

which is what makes the engine so great..no turbo lag.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (VRSICK)

Quote, originally posted by VRSICK »
so, ultumatly, the turbo is still pint size?? http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif

It ain't meant to be a 400hp drag machine.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (SeaBiskit)

Quote, originally posted by SeaBiskit »
The vendor for the turbo is KKK.

Borg-warner makes the K series turbos, such as the K03.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (osiris)

Quote, originally posted by osiris »
It ain't meant to be a 400hp drag machine.

variable area turbine nozzles for the win!
More vehicles need to come with them IMHO. You can get the best of both worlds that way...
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (jprempe)

Quote, originally posted by jprempe »
variable area turbine nozzles for the win!
More vehicles need to come with them IMHO. You can get the best of both worlds that way...

Have you seen the document where it quotes our 2.0T FSI as a "twin scroll type" turbine?
It's not VNT, but it's a specially designed exhaust manifold and a matched twin scroll type wheel.
I'll have to dig that one up, too.. it's on the home computer somewhere. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (syntrix)

Yep. It's like (similar) the twin scroll turbo on the current generation North American Evolution 9. Good design, but I'd still rather have VATN. My friends new Powerstroke F250 has a VATN turbo. Pretty nifty if you ask me.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (VRSICK)

VNT turbos aren't used on gas engines because the variable vane mechanisms can't tolerate the high EGTs of gas engines. Of course, Porsche has figured out how to make them reliable enough that the turbos on the new 997TT are VNT turbos (made by KKK, which calls their variable mechnaism "Variable Geometry Turbine"). Dodge had a turbo 4-cylinder that had a VNT turbo on it but it was notoriously unreliable due to turbo failure.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (Pelican18TQA4)

Quote, originally posted by Pelican18TQA4 »
VNT turbos aren't used on gas engines because the variable vane mechanisms can't tolerate the high EGTs of gas engines. Of course, Porsche has figured out how to make them reliable enough that the turbos on the new 997TT are VNT turbos (made by KKK, which calls their variable mechnaism "Variable Geometry Turbine"). Dodge had a turbo 4-cylinder that had a VNT turbo on it but it was notoriously unreliable due to turbo failure.

So riddle me this..
Are they using VNT type turbos on gas engines or not?
I could probably answer either way from your post
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I think the PP mentioned VNT because of the Porsche, but I thought everyone knew that. When did KKK come back? I thought they merged with Schwitzer to form Borg-Warner several years back.
 
Re: Is KKK still making the turbo for the new 2.0t? (syntrix)

Quote, originally posted by syntrix »

Borg-warner makes the K series turbos, such as the K03.

Ok. I'm just stating that they're still KKK turbo's. Same vendor that made the 20v's turbo. Borg warner's never mentioned or indicated when dealing with these turbos with VW.
 
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