I've noticed a few here have had in the past MkIV R32 and now have a MKV GTI...
Just wondering out of interest which you like better?
Just wondering out of interest which you like better?
Which car do you like better? MkIV r32 or MkV GTI
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Re: (malliemcg)
i can just picture pulling up next to it at a set of traffic lights, he (the driver) looks over his left shoulder and gives it a bit of a rev, brrrrmmmm... And starts hopping the car,...
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i can just picture pulling up next to it at a set of traffic lights, he (the driver) looks over his left shoulder and gives it a bit of a rev, brrrrmmmm... And starts hopping the car,...
Re: Which car do you like better? MkIV r32 or MkV GTI (malliemcg)
Well I didn't say (or mean to say it wasn't possible) but I figure that if I can perform a full throttle 1st gear 90 degree corner in the wet without understeer that is a pretty good indication.
Of course almost all cars will push wide under cornering at speed, and is to be expected from the 4 motion as I would expect ( I admit I may be wrong here) it will only be in front wheel drive most of the time anyway?
Well I didn't say (or mean to say it wasn't possible) but I figure that if I can perform a full throttle 1st gear 90 degree corner in the wet without understeer that is a pretty good indication.
Of course almost all cars will push wide under cornering at speed, and is to be expected from the 4 motion as I would expect ( I admit I may be wrong here) it will only be in front wheel drive most of the time anyway?
Re: Which car do you like better? MkIV r32 or MkV GTI (looneyc)
Wow, your first gear must be very low on power
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| Well I didn't say (or mean to say it wasn't possible) but I figure that if I can perform a full throttle 1st gear 90 degree corner in the wet without understeer that is a pretty good indication. |
Wow, your first gear must be very low on power
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Re: (Sloth)
Same here. There is a world of difference. My Mk5 is a fair dinkum tank compared to my old Mk4. I purchased the Mk5 on pure spec. I did not drive it until delivered, and you get a big surprise when you hammer around a few corners compared to the Mk4.
The big difference however is in slamming in the anchors. The computer control on braking pressures is much more refined in the Mk5 and this along with the stiffer chassis results in far superior braking performance.
| Quote, originally posted by Sloth » |
| I don't think I realised how sloppy the Mk4 chassis was until I drove a Mk5. |
Same here. There is a world of difference. My Mk5 is a fair dinkum tank compared to my old Mk4. I purchased the Mk5 on pure spec. I did not drive it until delivered, and you get a big surprise when you hammer around a few corners compared to the Mk4.
The big difference however is in slamming in the anchors. The computer control on braking pressures is much more refined in the Mk5 and this along with the stiffer chassis results in far superior braking performance.
Re: (sickindahead)
Not quite.If you compare GTI brakes with R32 brakes the GTI's only advantage is that it maintains wheel contact with the road on rough surfaces slightly better, otherwise the R32 brakes have much better feel and are less abrupt, are more powerful (enough to more than negate the weight disadvantage), and I believe less aggressive in terms of pad wear (Seb can comment on the comparative race car experiences with R32 vs. GTI, Stokell's 2 foot braking not withstanding...)
I preferred the R32 brakes.
As for insurance, full comprehensive with full no claims on the R32 with AAMI was cheaper with agreed value at $49,000 than GTI at $46,000. Didn't you realise that the GTI was turbo charged?
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The big difference however is in slamming in the anchors. The computer control on braking pressures is much more refined in the Mk5 and this along with the stiffer chassis results in far superior braking performance. |
Not quite.If you compare GTI brakes with R32 brakes the GTI's only advantage is that it maintains wheel contact with the road on rough surfaces slightly better, otherwise the R32 brakes have much better feel and are less abrupt, are more powerful (enough to more than negate the weight disadvantage), and I believe less aggressive in terms of pad wear (Seb can comment on the comparative race car experiences with R32 vs. GTI, Stokell's 2 foot braking not withstanding...)
I preferred the R32 brakes.
As for insurance, full comprehensive with full no claims on the R32 with AAMI was cheaper with agreed value at $49,000 than GTI at $46,000. Didn't you realise that the GTI was turbo charged?
Re: (sickindahead)
i 'm sure the mkiv gti had smaller brakes than the mkiv r32. I beleive the MkV GTI has the same r32 brakes - correct me if i'm wrong. however the standard mkv have smaller brakes than the mkv gti.
so we're comparing mkiv r32 against the mkv gti and not mkiv gti or any other variation of the mkiv a part from the mkiv r32
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i 'm sure the mkiv gti had smaller brakes than the mkiv r32. I beleive the MkV GTI has the same r32 brakes - correct me if i'm wrong. however the standard mkv have smaller brakes than the mkv gti.
so we're comparing mkiv r32 against the mkv gti and not mkiv gti or any other variation of the mkiv a part from the mkiv r32
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Re: (R'chitect)
I am not talking about overall brake performance, only emergency stops.
The overboost pump and pressure distribution control seems to work better on the MkV. When you signal the system for an emergency stop and the computer takes over the braking control there is a marked difference.
The size of the disc or the calipers etc is not really relevant in an emergency stop. The big factors are the emergency braking system and the suspension and the chassis.
I don't think my Mk4 even had a pump installed, only basic ABS.
I am not talking about overall brake performance, only emergency stops.
The overboost pump and pressure distribution control seems to work better on the MkV. When you signal the system for an emergency stop and the computer takes over the braking control there is a marked difference.
The size of the disc or the calipers etc is not really relevant in an emergency stop. The big factors are the emergency braking system and the suspension and the chassis.
I don't think my Mk4 even had a pump installed, only basic ABS.
Re: (sickindahead)
Firstly the only difference between the Mk4 V60 ABS units and the Mk5 V70 ABS units is that they finally got rid of the EDL . Everything else is the same . The pressure distribution is the same , if it was different we would have fitted mk5 ABS control unit to the race cars .
Secondly the size of the disc is extremely important in emergency stopping . Try stopping a truck with old beetle brakes from 300 km hr and tell me when you'll start getting brake fade .
The use of ABS is only to help the driver as an aid to stopping , it wont be an effective means to actual stop the car quickly in relation to a larger disc / brake combination .
| Quote, originally posted by sickindahead » |
The overboost pump and pressure distribution control seems to work better on the MkV. When you signal the system for an emergency stop and the computer takes over the braking control there is a marked difference. The size of the disc or the calipers etc is not really relevant in an emergency stop. The big factors are the emergency braking system and the suspension and the chassis. I don't think my Mk4 even had a pump installed, only basic ABS. |
Firstly the only difference between the Mk4 V60 ABS units and the Mk5 V70 ABS units is that they finally got rid of the EDL . Everything else is the same . The pressure distribution is the same , if it was different we would have fitted mk5 ABS control unit to the race cars .
Secondly the size of the disc is extremely important in emergency stopping . Try stopping a truck with old beetle brakes from 300 km hr and tell me when you'll start getting brake fade .
The use of ABS is only to help the driver as an aid to stopping , it wont be an effective means to actual stop the car quickly in relation to a larger disc / brake combination .
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