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We all know the pros and cons of fmic vs smic. I was wondering if there is anyone who has tried both an upgraded smic and a fmic on the same turbo set-up, and if they noticed performance differences between the two.
 
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I was on a ATP FMIC with my APR stg3, spool sucked, core was not the greatest, but it worked ok. I've sold it since and have been running the tyrol sport UGSMI, and love it. Throttle response and spool is instant, stays consistant, and have yet to have any issues. Keeps the car looking stock.
 
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Re: (JustinGLi18T)

ive had both the bfsmic and im now rockin a eurojet race fmic. in my opinion, the fmic performs better. but thats just from the butt-dyno. the bfsmic is definitely a quality piece and a great improvement over the stock smic. the fitment was great, i only had to trim a 2"x2" section from the radiator support and the stealthness was great.
the original reason i switched was that i wanted my engine bay to have a different look(great reason, rite?
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) and a local was selling a new ejfmic for dirt cheap. i instantly felt a differance in power delivery and back to back run performance. it felt "healthier" if you will. i did loose 2 psi from the volume increase within the core and the piping, but the cooling efficiency more then made up for it. i do plan on going b/t in the next year, so having the race kit is a plus there too. the fitment was great, but i run a votex front bumper so i cant say how it fits behind the stock bumper. from what ive read, the street version is supposed to fit great as well with little to no trimming to the oem bumper. hope this helps bro.
 
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Re: (dcEuro)

I've had a greddy 31v fmic and a tyrolsport smic on an apr stg3+ motor. Tyrolsport has great throttle response and runs strong, but I can feel heatsoak set in sometimes. The greddy never seemed to have that problem, but I had so much piping that it created a buttload of lag. A good fmic with a short amount of piping would be the way to go. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 
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Re: (inivid)

I think you guys that say you could feel a difference between the SMIC and the FMIC are drinking the KoolAde. There shouldn't be a discernable difference between a properly installed SMIC (read: with the duct) and a lower end FMIC (read: EuroJet, ATP, Neuspeed, GReddy 31). If you told me you went from a 3076 on a BFSMIC/TS UGSMIC to a precision medium core and did custom piping with a TT 225 Mani and cut the bumper out, then yes, maybe you'd feel a difference, but between an APR FMIC and a BFSMIC I felt and logged absolutely zero difference.
 
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Re: (WhiteG60)

i just dig it cuz it didn't set me back but $500 bones. i wasn't speaking about performance, despite the fact that it's more efficient than stock and handles big boost.
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i need to work on that ducting though when i get home.
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Modified by inivid at 7:51 AM 6-9-2007
 
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Re: Have you run both an upgraded SMIC and a FMIC (JustinGLi18T)

i'm running a BFSMIC and i like it alot. i think it would be better with a air duct directing more air through the intercooler but hey thats what sundays and free time are for.
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Re: Have you run both an upgraded SMIC and a FMIC (A GTI 1.8T)

Quote, originally posted by A GTI 1.8T »
Paul from Boost Factory is already working on an Air Duct desing for the SMIC so hang in there and be patient hopefully Boost Factory will have it available soon.

I plan to form one out of sheet metal and rivets. It will cost me a few hours time and 5 bucks in materials vs at least 30-40 for the BF part. I am sure it will be nice, but no one will every see the BF part, so why not make your own?
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Re: (WhiteG60)

Quote, originally posted by WhiteG60 »
I think you guys that say you could feel a difference between the SMIC and the FMIC are drinking the KoolAde. There shouldn't be a discernable difference between a properly installed SMIC (read: with the duct) and a lower end FMIC (read: EuroJet, ATP, Neuspeed, GReddy 31). If you told me you went from a 3076 on a BFSMIC/TS UGSMIC to a precision medium core and did custom piping with a TT 225 Mani and cut the bumper out, then yes, maybe you'd feel a difference, but between an APR FMIC and a BFSMIC I felt and logged absolutely zero difference.

What turbo did you have when you compared BFSMIC and APR FMIC?
 
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Re: (mescaline)

Quote, originally posted by mescaline »

What turbo did you have when you compared BFSMIC and APR FMIC?

The same T3 super60 .48 with the same everything else. All I changed was the IC. Piping setup remained largely the same since they both use stock style routing.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if you saw 1-2 psi pressure drop with BFSMIC vs. APR FMIC...of coruse you can't SEE this because turbo will make up for lost pressure...but still it will work harder. What did you dyno with t3 super 60?
 
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Re: (mescaline)

Quote, originally posted by mescaline »
I wouldn't be surprised if you saw 1-2 psi pressure drop with BFSMIC vs. APR FMIC...of coruse you can't SEE this because turbo will make up for lost pressure...but still it will work harder. What did you dyno with t3 super 60?

On stock injectors, with APR K03 file, 265whp/258wtq @ 14psi. This was done below sealevel @ 74F ambient with a 30.9x barometer. Very good air for making power.
 
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