i just bought a corrado and it still has the original owner's manual. in there it just lists the VW fluid that they fill the power steering with and i'm just curious if i have to get VW fluid from a dealer or if regular power steering fluid is ok to use? i know some cars have to have the fluid made by manufacturer.
just a question
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i just bought a corrado and it still has the original owner's manual. in there it just lists the VW fluid that they fill the power steering with and i'm just curious if i have to get VW fluid from a dealer or if regular power steering fluid is ok to use? i know some cars have to have the fluid made by manufacturer.
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You need special fluid that costs an arm and a leg. Seriously.
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Re: just a question (slightly_drifting)
I found the powersteering fluid at national auto, and napa. I don't remember the price being ridiculous but it is definitely more than the normal cheap ones. Also if you use the normal cheap ones you will kill your seals in the rack.
Pentosin chf 11s
I found the powersteering fluid at national auto, and napa. I don't remember the price being ridiculous but it is definitely more than the normal cheap ones. Also if you use the normal cheap ones you will kill your seals in the rack.
Pentosin chf 11s
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Re: just a question (PSUCorrado)
WTF?
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I'm just using standard ATF / PS fluid in both of mine cos thats what the shop listed for it!
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What's the difference between the two? Will it have done any damage to my brand new rack after 10k miles?
Is there a VW spec for PS fluid like there is for engine oil?
WTF?
What's the difference between the two? Will it have done any damage to my brand new rack after 10k miles?
Is there a VW spec for PS fluid like there is for engine oil?
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Re: just a question (MikkiJayne)
you want this
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you want this
Re: just a question (brilliantyellowg60)
^^^ x3
I had an Audi 100 about a decade ago. The cheap sh$t previous owner (my dad...
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) put standard PS fluid in it instead of Pentosin mineral oil, and the rack died soon after I got the car. Of course, that was a very high pressure steering rack and definitely a weak link on the car, so maybe I'm comparing apples to oranges...
^^^ x3
I had an Audi 100 about a decade ago. The cheap sh$t previous owner (my dad...
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Re: just a question (jmaddocks)
I can't get that stuff in the UK
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Thats why I'm wondering what the spec is so I can find the proper alternative http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Edit - the Bentley says G002000. That doesn't help much
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Modified by MikkiJayne at 8:58 PM 11-21-2007
I can't get that stuff in the UK
Thats why I'm wondering what the spec is so I can find the proper alternative http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Edit - the Bentley says G002000. That doesn't help much
Modified by MikkiJayne at 8:58 PM 11-21-2007
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Re: just a question (MikkiJayne)
Ok then I found an equivalent in the UK
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Anyone got any suggestions on how to flush the system?
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Would blowing compressed air through it get enough out to be safe to put the new stuff in?
Ok then I found an equivalent in the UK
Anyone got any suggestions on how to flush the system?
Re: just a question (MikkiJayne)
i would assume that would get most of it out
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| Ok then I found an equivalent in the UK
Anyone got any suggestions on how to flush the system?
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i would assume that would get most of it out
Re: just a question (SLC4EVER)
This is what I've learnt, since I plan to do this in the near future.
-disconnect spark plugs
-disconnect return line from the rack
-have someone crank engine with the starter, until the pump runs out of fluid to pump through.
[skip these steps because you already have ATF in there
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-close return line from the rack
-put automatic transmission fluid in, then crank the steering wheel all the way to the left and then to the right. Repeat a few times.
-reconnect spark plugs
-turn engine on, let it running for a few minutes, maybe drive it.
-turn engine off, disconnect spark plugs.
-disconnect return line from power steering rack
-have someone crank the engine again from the inside, until Automatic fluid runs out
[continue from here]
-fill up power steering reservoir with Pentosin CHF 11S
-crank the engine, until the color of the Pentosin oil comes through
-reconnect return line from power steering rack
-crank the steering wheel from one extreme to another a few times
-reconnect spark plugs
-turn engine on, crank steering wheel a few times again
-be sure to top up the fluid level when the engine is off again
This should technically give a power steering system a good flush, since ATF fluid has a lot of detergents in it. You could also just turn the engine on and let it run the pump dry, but that would just promote extra wear on it. At the low RPM's that the engine starts with, it's much safer.
In the UK, it seemed like some had problems with ATF fluid while others had been running it for a long time, not knowing that it's not a good idea. This is what I picked up, hope to help.
[EDIT] - Forgot to add one important step.
Modified by cata at 3:17 PM 11-21-2007
This is what I've learnt, since I plan to do this in the near future.
-disconnect spark plugs
-disconnect return line from the rack
-have someone crank engine with the starter, until the pump runs out of fluid to pump through.
[skip these steps because you already have ATF in there
-close return line from the rack
-put automatic transmission fluid in, then crank the steering wheel all the way to the left and then to the right. Repeat a few times.
-reconnect spark plugs
-turn engine on, let it running for a few minutes, maybe drive it.
-turn engine off, disconnect spark plugs.
-disconnect return line from power steering rack
-have someone crank the engine again from the inside, until Automatic fluid runs out
[continue from here]
-fill up power steering reservoir with Pentosin CHF 11S
-crank the engine, until the color of the Pentosin oil comes through
-reconnect return line from power steering rack
-crank the steering wheel from one extreme to another a few times
-reconnect spark plugs
-turn engine on, crank steering wheel a few times again
-be sure to top up the fluid level when the engine is off again
This should technically give a power steering system a good flush, since ATF fluid has a lot of detergents in it. You could also just turn the engine on and let it run the pump dry, but that would just promote extra wear on it. At the low RPM's that the engine starts with, it's much safer.
In the UK, it seemed like some had problems with ATF fluid while others had been running it for a long time, not knowing that it's not a good idea. This is what I picked up, hope to help.
[EDIT] - Forgot to add one important step.
Modified by cata at 3:17 PM 11-21-2007
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Re: just a question (PSUCorrado)
napa didn't have it but i found it at national, as far as an arm and leg, compared to normal fluid the price is insane. with tax the liter container was 30 bucks. i wouldn't use ATF for power steering fluid, that doesn't sound like a good idea at all.
Modified by slightly_drifting at 9:50 AM 11-22-2007
napa didn't have it but i found it at national, as far as an arm and leg, compared to normal fluid the price is insane. with tax the liter container was 30 bucks. i wouldn't use ATF for power steering fluid, that doesn't sound like a good idea at all.
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Re: just a question (slightly_drifting)
Haha, get a job at a dealership.
The stock fluid is green or something, and my fluid was literally burnt to a crisp (chunky and black). One night, I flushed $100+ of VW power steering fluid through my system. I disconnected the hardline, turned the car on and turned the wheel while a friend kept pouring fluid in the reservoir. Then we reconnected the line, filled it up, burped the system and turned the wheel a whole lot, lock to lock.
Then we repeated the above another time or two.
Went through 5-6 cans of the stuff before the fluid flushed out crystal clean http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
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Haha, get a job at a dealership.
The stock fluid is green or something, and my fluid was literally burnt to a crisp (chunky and black). One night, I flushed $100+ of VW power steering fluid through my system. I disconnected the hardline, turned the car on and turned the wheel while a friend kept pouring fluid in the reservoir. Then we reconnected the line, filled it up, burped the system and turned the wheel a whole lot, lock to lock.
Then we repeated the above another time or two.
Went through 5-6 cans of the stuff before the fluid flushed out crystal clean http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
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Re: just a question (MikkiJayne)
Heh...I flushed mine when I had it by having my steering rack take a dump...I don't recommend that method.
| Quote, originally posted by MikkiJayne » |
| Ok then I found an equivalent in the UK
Anyone got any suggestions on how to flush the system?
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Heh...I flushed mine when I had it by having my steering rack take a dump...I don't recommend that method.
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Re: just a question (darrenbyrnes)
I just did this and it was easier than I thought. The CHF11 is $20 a litre compared to $13 for ATF, so not too pricey and it only took a litre including losing a bit from flushing it http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
The red ATF that came out was pretty black, after only 6 months in an entirely brand new system, so something in there didn't like it! The new stuff is definitely green
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Now I have the spare car to do as well
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Mikki x
I just did this and it was easier than I thought. The CHF11 is $20 a litre compared to $13 for ATF, so not too pricey and it only took a litre including losing a bit from flushing it http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
The red ATF that came out was pretty black, after only 6 months in an entirely brand new system, so something in there didn't like it! The new stuff is definitely green
Now I have the spare car to do as well
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Re: just a question (cata)
I took the feed line off the pump to drain the reservoir then put it back on, and disconnected the return from the rack at the T-piece by the reservoir.
I put a hose from the return to a bottle under the car, then spun the engine on the starter (while swinging the wheel from lock to lock), which pumped a bit of fluid out. Then connected an airline to where the drain hose was and blew some air through it, also swinging the wheel. That blew a fair bit out too, so gave it a few tries until no more came out.
Once that was done I blocked off where the drain hose went on the t-piece and re-filled with CHF11 until the res was full and turned the engine over again. That blew a load of black ATF fluid out of the drain (in to the bottle where I could see it), and then ran green.
I then reconnected the drain, and topped up the fluid and started the engine. The pump was very noisy to start with, since it was full of air, but 5 mins of swinging the wheel sorted that and filled the res with bubbles! A final top-up and all done http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
You could probably do the same by just running CHF11 though it, but that would get expensive and compressed air is free
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Edit - I just read your post again. Our two methods sound pretty much the same, but I used compressed air in your ATF stage
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Mikki x
Modified by MikkiJayne at 7:54 PM 11-23-2007
I took the feed line off the pump to drain the reservoir then put it back on, and disconnected the return from the rack at the T-piece by the reservoir.
I put a hose from the return to a bottle under the car, then spun the engine on the starter (while swinging the wheel from lock to lock), which pumped a bit of fluid out. Then connected an airline to where the drain hose was and blew some air through it, also swinging the wheel. That blew a fair bit out too, so gave it a few tries until no more came out.
Once that was done I blocked off where the drain hose went on the t-piece and re-filled with CHF11 until the res was full and turned the engine over again. That blew a load of black ATF fluid out of the drain (in to the bottle where I could see it), and then ran green.
I then reconnected the drain, and topped up the fluid and started the engine. The pump was very noisy to start with, since it was full of air, but 5 mins of swinging the wheel sorted that and filled the res with bubbles! A final top-up and all done http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
You could probably do the same by just running CHF11 though it, but that would get expensive and compressed air is free
Edit - I just read your post again. Our two methods sound pretty much the same, but I used compressed air in your ATF stage
Mikki x
Modified by MikkiJayne at 7:54 PM 11-23-2007
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