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#21 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

Don't listen to Leonard or Evil337 here... According to them we should all buy coucheds with holes in the cushions and knife sharpeners that only have on blade. Some times people need to vent a bit and thats what your doing.
I would personally take the car to the dealer and let them know (very nicely) that you would like the problems to be fixed and if they cannot do it in a reasonable time frame you will have to take your business elsewhere.
VW pays good money to the dealership to fix the warranty issues so it may be that the dealership is padding the clock on these repairs.
If I bought a Geo metro I would not complain about squeeks and rattles, however when I buy a special edition sports compact from a german manufacturer that carries a $23,000 pricetag i definately expect it to be problem free.
On the upside, at least your airbags did not go off without warning or reason like mine did...
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Its been two weeks and my car is still being fixed.
 
#22 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (dvankuren)

Nope not venting just stateing the facts. If you want to see venting look at my thread about crashing mine, that's venting. This thread is just like half the others. When you hit a bump your car might squeak. If your monstermats are a little misshaped, go to the dealership and exchange them. Your radiator went it happens warantee it. You know I was really happy to get the 337 and still am but I am kinda of getting tired of this "special MK4 forum and all the useless complaining that goes on here. So flame me if you want but sit back and read some of the threads that are started "How many people have had a bird crap on thier car" Or Oh my a rock is stuck in my tire"
It's just a car, actually an MK4 so stop glorifying it and grow up
 
#23 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (EVIL337)

nicely said evil337. i aint venting at all either....i am just sick of how you guys always complain. "whatever happened to german engineering?" i dont kow you tell me....im satisfied with it.....looks like you guys are the ones who arent. complain about every little damn thing. its only a 23k car...not a bmw or merz, so it will have some problems....you should probably expect more to come. like i said its all part of the game. late
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[Modified by leonard nemoi, 1:55 AM 10-11-2002]


[Modified by leonard nemoi, 1:57 AM 10-11-2002]
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (EVIL337)

I really think it's just this simple.
I was nervous. (note the title of the post)
I had a problem really early in my ownership that caused it...(2nd full day that I had the car). The problem was fixed. Everything is cool. Good car, good expirence @ the dealership, no complaints.
I've had a few really small insignifigant problems, that I'd like to get taken care of, and was searching out a good way to get that across to the dealer.
No more no less.
Not glorifying the car, or lambasting the company, or anything. Just figured that I should try to fix or get fixed, some small things on my car that kinda annoyed me.
If you read the posts earlier, you can see that I tried to get my drivers mat exchanged– and I'm gettin the cold shoulder, so I was just asking what to do next, what would be the best course of action.
Oh and by the way, about the squeak, it's pretty much any time that I turn the car–at all– that it squeaks. Any deviation from a straight line. It's the body roll or flex I think. I just want to track it down and fix it. no big deal.
I like VW as a company,
I like my car,
I'm just curious as to why it squeaks...that's all.
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Oh and to Leonard, dude can I have some cash? cause I can tell you this, I don't think I've ever put the words 'only' and 23 grand in the same sentance, let alone the same paragraph!
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To recap– for those of you just joining in to our little soap opera:
TA373-"How should I get (-insert small really minor problem/s here-) fixed?"
Leonard Nemoi- "Man you complain too much...stop being such a weenie!"
TA373-"Ha!
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Thanks, but seriously..."
Leonard Nemoi-"Seriously...your a weenie"
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#25 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (TA373)

ok man the best way to deal with it is to go to the dealer and talk to them NICELY, dont be like "i want this problem fixed" theyre ppl just like you and they deal with all types of ppl. my cousin works for vw...and in order for the dealer to get the money back on repairs from vwoa they have to justify the repairs...."was it really necessary to fix" in some cases the dealer eats the cost and thats why they dont like to fix small things like you complain about. and about the 23k....yeah its only money...it comes and goes...the harder you work the more you have. plain as that. good luck with the dealer. oh and i never called you a weenie bro
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. im just sick of ppl complaining about every little thing that goes wrong with their cars. thats all. late
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

quote:[HR][/HR] oh and i never called you a weenie bro
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. im just sick of ppl complaining about every little thing that goes wrong with their cars. thats all. late[HR][/HR]​
I hear ya, I wuz just kiddin, just trying to lighting thing up a bit...
More than anything I just want to know what's up, like how that part attaches, and stuff like that...not like I want them to reweld the entire car or anything....sheeeit, i'd just like a little info is all.
Pretty much what's behind the whole thing. It's not like I'm askin them to replace my coilpacks, but rather just give me some insight into the whole gas thing, whether or not there truely is a 7series software for the ecu (as opposed to the 6series on there now...or so the posts go in the 1.8t/passat forums). I don't really even expect them to do anything, I'm just lookin for a bit of info and conversation...
For instance, I went into a diff dealer today just to see what they'd say, and one of the front desk kids for the mait dept, who didn't really know how the post for the seat was even attached– he was just like "....ummm, I think you should just bend it a little". But the thing was that he really didn't know what was up, he just kinda figured that would fix it.
I only posted here, becuase I thought there might be a couple other guys with the same thing...Same thing with the mats too, I was hoping someone would chime in and say "that happend to me, here's what I did..."
I've been talkin kinda nice to them so far, so that's not an issue, pretty much everything goes thru my salesman, who I talk to (just bull****tin') for at least 1/2 an hour anytime i go in.
I think the parts guy is just givin him the run around, like he's trying to get the mat for me, but the parts guy is either busy, or doesn't really wanna deal with the hassle...
I hear ya about the money tho, just worked 16hrs straight the other day to get my payment squared away for the month...a little extra in the kitty never hurts
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but damn, double shifts kill you!
thx,
matt
(oh and by the way, for your music post, I listen to chemical bros, dan the automator, dj shadow, beastie boys, the white stripes, air, tribe, de la soul...etc...)
 
#27 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

quote:[HR][/HR]its all part of owning a vw. if you want reliability buy a toyota or something. peace holmes[HR][/HR]​
What the hell does that mean? What exactly is all about owning a VW? Just because I own a VW means I SHOULD pay more and expect less? No fking wonder it took VW this long to begin addressing the window regulator issue...because consumers like yourself bend over for them and smile while at it. I can only imagine how much VWofA must absolutely love customers like yourself. I'm very sorry but that is not what to expect from a mass produced car maker. It doesn't matter what the brand name is...VW, Toyota, MB, BMW...
Part of the reason to purchase a new car is so not to have problems...if anyone here wants problems with their car, they won't go and spend $23K+ and buy a new car, they'll pay $2-3K and buy a beaten up used car.


[Modified by Integrale, 12:04 AM 10-11-2002]
 
#28 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (Integrale)

homeboy....vw is not the top car manufacturer...they arent at the top of the food chain...its entry level cars for everyday joes that can afford them. i dont expect rattles and what not in a new car....but what i was gettin at is that if you have a small problem...fix it. i wasnt sayin if your window drops....oh well live with it. and if i have a problem i sure as hell am going to go and tell vw about it....i dont sit and bend over for them....i just dont complain about small crap that they dont give a rats ass to fix. thats it...get it smart guy? you guys have stiffer than normal suspension, lower profile tires and so on....you can kinda expect some rattle. think about it.....
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#29 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

you guys have stiffer than normal suspension, lower profile tires and so on....you can kinda expect some rattle. think about it..... ---qupte
Many vehicles have lower ride heights without rattles,I say complain till VW fixes every problem .No one should have to put up with even minor annoyances in a New car ,it happens but the dealer shouldnt make a long face about fixing it. You should have checked this forum before buying your 337 because MK4'S are widely known for theyre RATTLES ,WINDOW REGULATORS FAILING, FAULTY MAF'S
 
#30 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (TRYNTRUEA2)

all -
i have a few minor probs with my car, nothing to scream about, but they are there and it bothers me. what's worse than that is someone comes to this forum and ask a question about his own problems and half the post are not answers to his question. not only are they not helpful, on topic, or even polite but they are accusing. do you know this guy? he's got a couple hundred post on here, probably new to vw and he's got a bunch of little stuff going on in his car. now i don't know how many people here actually are going to hold on their car for more than a year (i am) but that would bother me. i would like things like to be taken care of, heck it one of the reasons that i bought this car over the mini cooper. like i said these things can be fixed somehow. but, WOW, some people really do give this forum a bad name. this is my 4th veedub and i have been a member since the beginning of the the mk4's. not saying i have been here forever but just long enough to see this forum go from helpful to plain stupid.
whatever, chris.
*Good Luck getting your problems fixed.
the one thing that i think could help maybe take some of the tension off the rear seat would be a rear stress bar or a rear sway bar like shine's(i only say shine bc their bar bolt into the axel and is made to stiffen the rear - 2birds|1stone). they both add a good bit of stability to the rear end, might take some tension off those seats.
 
#32 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (Dakota)

Bernard.....sharrap...jk.... i realize that you have some small problems...but like i said its not a bmw or merz....you didnt pay top dollar for that car....why dont you just go take your car apart and fix the little rattles yourself?.....the dealer is not going to do anything about it and you know this. comin here and cryin about it is getting you nowhere....instead of just fixing a small rattle. and the other guy forgot to add in the cheap cup holders....i was once an mk4 owner.....i liked it....and i will get another mk4 someday, but i cant expect it to be perfect as you want it. later boys
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#33 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

quote:[HR][/HR]omg you guys are a bunch of babies. quit cryin..every car has problems period. my cel is on....my wheel isnt straight...my window fell....my cup holer isnt workin...my engine blew up....booo hooo
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. live with it.[HR][/HR]​
easy for you to say, no need to be a dIK. Anyhow, this guy's problems isn't serious at all, maybe the radiator thing, but the other stuff is hogwash. I've throw codes all the time and had my tranny replaced at 500 miles. car runs great now though.
 
#34 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

i didn't post here to complain about my car. i posted to complain about you. the guy just wanted to have a problem fixed. whether it's a bimmer or vw a tech he/she should atleast offer some advice or say "sorry your on your own" my brother owns a 330xi and it has plenty of problems. i just think he posted bc he was hoping someone had noticed his prob. some people are perfectionist with their cars. just a diff point of view from yours.
chris.
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#35 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (TA373)

Dude, I have my E Brake handle replace, stitching started to fray, I have had my coil packs go, my MAF. And now after those I have a bobble in the idle. They say its running to "Manufacturers Specs" Bullsh!t. No i notice my Monsoon needs the fix, and my headrest broke, ripped right out of the seat and the mounts inside also ripped out and will not go back in! So do what I do, keep taking the POS back until its fixed right. You got a warranty, and you are paying alot of money, you might as well use it. Dont feel bad about the dealership, they arent starving. Some of us with 337's are though/
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#36 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

quote:[HR][/HR]homeboy....vw is not the top car manufacturer...they arent at the top of the food chain...its entry level cars for everyday joes that can afford them. i dont expect rattles and what not in a new car....but what i was gettin at is that if you have a small problem...fix it. i wasnt sayin if your window drops....oh well live with it. and if i have a problem i sure as hell am going to go and tell vw about it....i dont sit and bend over for them....i just dont complain about small crap that they dont give a rats ass to fix. thats it...get it smart guy? you guys have stiffer than normal suspension, lower profile tires and so on....you can kinda expect some rattle. think about it.....
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[HR][/HR]​
While rattles will develop in any car...at the very least you'd expect things to stay together for the first 6 months...particularly on a "special edition" vehicle. The rest of the issues are serious enough to take far more seriously...failing windows, MAF sensors, electrical issues, on and on.
 
#37 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

quote:[HR][/HR]Bernard.....sharrap...jk.... i realize that you have some small problems...but like i said its not a bmw or merz....you didnt pay top dollar for that car....why dont you just go take your car apart and fix the little rattles yourself?.....the dealer is not going to do anything about it and you know this. comin here and cryin about it is getting you nowhere....instead of just fixing a small rattle. and the other guy forgot to add in the cheap cup holders....i was once an mk4 owner.....i liked it....and i will get another mk4 someday, but i cant expect it to be perfect as you want it. later boys
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[HR][/HR]​
Again, you're making excuses for the piss-poor VW service...listen to yourself...because we didn't pay top dollar we should take the cars apart ourselves? LOL....you must have nothing else to do I suppose because I do. I enjoy driving my car, not repairing it.
 
#38 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (Integrale)

your right.....from now on whenever i get any noise from my car at all....im takin it in to the dealer
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. they arent going to do anything about it. thatsthe truth. and i do have better thingsto do ....but hey quick question....when you have no more warrenty...what are you going to do? take it in for every little thing? you have to know sometihng about your car....not just let everybody else and their fat mom work on it. thats all im getting at. i enjoy drivin my car aroiund too...but i also enjoy taking it apart and working on it.....some day you might see what im talking about.....till then.........
 
#39 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

quote:[HR][/HR]your right.....from now on whenever i get any noise from my car at all....im takin it in to the dealer
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. they arent going to do anything about it. thatsthe truth. and i do have better thingsto do ....but hey quick question....when you have no more warrenty...what are you going to do? take it in for every little thing? you have to know sometihng about your car....not just let everybody else and their fat mom work on it. thats all im getting at. i enjoy drivin my car aroiund too...but i also enjoy taking it apart and working on it.....some day you might see what im talking about.....till then.........[HR][/HR]​
I never said it in for everything thing did I?? No I didn't...and when I have no warranty I'll worry about it then....not 4 years, 50000 miles before. You know, YOU PAY for the warranty in the price of the car...so if they don't honour it or give you a long face because you want something checked out or fixed, you're getting screwed and jipped.
Let me ask you something, you buy a Dell computer and things start going wrong...it crashes once a day, it's got sporatic performance, and basically you can't get your work done on it...you going to go into the BIOS and crack open the case trying to solve your issues? You call then up and they say it's your fault because you did this, and that to the computer...
Because I know FOR A FACT that I don't have neither the time nor the patience to wait 2-3 weeks to get a stupid window regulator fixed. I just don't understand your logic.
 
#40 ·
Re: just a little nervousness... (leonard nemoi)

leonard nemoi -
your right, vw won't do anything... their service/manufacturing is average at best - just like any other car manufacturer. but if a guy wants to fix something, he doesn't need feedback like this. other people have had these probs - he is just coming here for advice, i don't see what is wrong with that. who cares if it is stupid in your mind. go to the 4 forum and cry about us 337 owners who just nit-pick at our cars and don't enjoy them. i would also think he enjoys driving his car and works on it too, that is why he bought a 337. that's why i got mine. your not any more special than anyone else on this forum.
leonard if you work on your car you must have some advice other than "shove it!," share the wealth. make another post about, "Your favorite music to play in your 337" even if is a joke. your an elitest among elitest. enjoy yourself.
i am not trying to be mean, but you are preaching to people that won't convert to your thinking.
night, chris.
 
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