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Good thing ther GPS batteries held out....RIP.
Modified by Spa_driver at 11:14 AM 8-8-2009
Good thing ther GPS batteries held out....RIP.
Modified by Spa_driver at 11:14 AM 8-8-2009
GPS leads Cherokee into Death Valley death trap.
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Good thing ther GPS batteries held out....RIP.
Modified by Spa_driver at 11:14 AM 8-8-2009
Good thing ther GPS batteries held out....RIP.
Modified by Spa_driver at 11:14 AM 8-8-2009
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Re: GPS leads Cherokee into Death Valley death trap. (Spa_driver)
that link didn't work for me. This one did:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0...tnews
I always wonder how people end up in messes like this without common sense intervening long beforehand.
that link didn't work for me. This one did:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0...tnews
I always wonder how people end up in messes like this without common sense intervening long beforehand.
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Very sad...reminds me of the CNET editor who died in 2006 in the Oregon wilderness, when his SAAB 9-2x got stuck in the snow on a remote road.
Because of that incident I always carry an emergency kit in my car...
Because of that incident I always carry an emergency kit in my car...
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The GPS left them stranded? The mom left them stranded. Off roading without the proper tools left them stranded. Bad headline on that story. Like saying a map left you stranded. Christoper Columbus would disagree.
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It's easier to blame your equipment than yourself.
| Quote, originally posted by driveareliablecar » |
| The GPS left them stranded? The mom left them stranded. Off roading without the proper tools left them stranded. Bad headline on that story. Like saying a map left you stranded. Christoper Columbus would disagree. |
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It's easier to blame your equipment than yourself.
Re: FV-QR (VTECeateR)
It hurts me to read stuff like this. I can't even begin to imagine putting my sons in that kind of danger. It's horrifying to even think about.
People wonder why I don't have a GPS. Right there is why. I don't go anywhere that I don't have a basic map for, and I know how to find north.
It hurts me to read stuff like this. I can't even begin to imagine putting my sons in that kind of danger. It's horrifying to even think about.
People wonder why I don't have a GPS. Right there is why. I don't go anywhere that I don't have a basic map for, and I know how to find north.
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Re: (driveareliablecar)
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Sad story for sure.
Once they were stuck, why the hell didn't they start walking back the way they came? I don't understand the logic here at all. They had limited food and water, and they had to know the chances of someone stumbling on them out there were pretty slim.
I realize walking around in that kind of heat is dangerous, but so it sitting around in a vehicle doing nothing.
And who the hell goes camping in Death Valley in the middle of the summer?! This story is just full of WTF!
| Quote, originally posted by driveareliablecar » |
| The GPS left them stranded? The mom left them stranded. Off roading without the proper tools left them stranded. Bad headline on that story. Like saying a map left you stranded. Christoper Columbus would disagree. |
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Sad story for sure.
Once they were stuck, why the hell didn't they start walking back the way they came? I don't understand the logic here at all. They had limited food and water, and they had to know the chances of someone stumbling on them out there were pretty slim.
I realize walking around in that kind of heat is dangerous, but so it sitting around in a vehicle doing nothing.
And who the hell goes camping in Death Valley in the middle of the summer?! This story is just full of WTF!
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****ing seriously, where is the common sense? Apparently they were going for a camping trip at a proper campground, did the mother honestly think that it was going to be located in the middle of the bloody desert with no roads?
At least the daschund lived <3
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| "It's in about as remote and isolated an area as you can find," Death Valley National Park Chief Ranger Brent Pennington told The Associated Press. "How she got to that point, I don't know." |
****ing seriously, where is the common sense? Apparently they were going for a camping trip at a proper campground, did the mother honestly think that it was going to be located in the middle of the bloody desert with no roads?
At least the daschund lived <3
Re: GPS leads Cherokee into Death Valley death trap. (Spa_driver)
I can't really blame the mother for this. They had a decent vehicle, had already fixed a flat, had gps and had plenty of water (3 gallons). The article said the vehicle fell thru an animal den, which explains why it couldn't get out. That's certainly much different than merely spinning the tires into the ground. She even climbed a local peak to get reception.
Could she have done better? Sure, she should've told people exactly where she was going. She could've had a winch, a short wave radio, several cases of Costco size water bottles instead of just one case, a shovel, a tracked vehicle, etc. Maybe hiking out would've been best, but how far off of a main road were they? Did they have packs to carry all the water they'd need to make that hike?
The only fault I see is that she didn't tell people exactly where she was going, but I don't do that either.
I can't really blame the mother for this. They had a decent vehicle, had already fixed a flat, had gps and had plenty of water (3 gallons). The article said the vehicle fell thru an animal den, which explains why it couldn't get out. That's certainly much different than merely spinning the tires into the ground. She even climbed a local peak to get reception.
Could she have done better? Sure, she should've told people exactly where she was going. She could've had a winch, a short wave radio, several cases of Costco size water bottles instead of just one case, a shovel, a tracked vehicle, etc. Maybe hiking out would've been best, but how far off of a main road were they? Did they have packs to carry all the water they'd need to make that hike?
The only fault I see is that she didn't tell people exactly where she was going, but I don't do that either.
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This, it's called DEATH VALLEY.
| Quote, originally posted by justanotherusername » |
And who the hell goes camping in Death Valley in the middle of the summer?! This story is just full of WTF! |
This, it's called DEATH VALLEY.
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You're right about staying in the car. In Arizona, when the temps reach about 115 outside, the inside of your car can reach up to about 120+ degrees (maybe even 130? There was a news article on it a while ago). Hopefully they stayed outside in the shadow of their car.
And I was wondering about your question too. Who would go into DEATH Valley for a camping trip?!
| Quote, originally posted by justanotherusername » |
I realize walking around in that kind of heat is dangerous, but so it sitting around in a vehicle doing nothing. And who the hell goes camping in Death Valley in the middle of the summer?! This story is just full of WTF! |
You're right about staying in the car. In Arizona, when the temps reach about 115 outside, the inside of your car can reach up to about 120+ degrees (maybe even 130? There was a news article on it a while ago). Hopefully they stayed outside in the shadow of their car.
And I was wondering about your question too. Who would go into DEATH Valley for a camping trip?!
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The reason that dumbass died was because, well, he was a dumbass. Low on gas, narrow snow covered road, late at night ....... :shakes head:
| Quote, originally posted by windycityvdub » |
| Very sad...reminds me of the CNET editor who died in 2006 in the Oregon wilderness, when his SAAB 9-2x got stuck in the snow on a remote road. Because of that incident I always carry an emergency kit in my car... |
The reason that dumbass died was because, well, he was a dumbass. Low on gas, narrow snow covered road, late at night ....... :shakes head:
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I've seen thermometers inside a car go above 160 degrees. It makes me wonder if they were sitting there with the A/C running until it ran out of gas.
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| Quote, originally posted by auditt2t » |
You're right about staying in the car. In Arizona, when the temps reach about 115 outside, the inside of your car can reach up to about 120+ degrees (maybe even 130? There was a news article on it a while ago). Hopefully they stayed outside in the shadow of their car. And I was wondering about your question too. Who would go into DEATH Valley for a camping trip?! |
I've seen thermometers inside a car go above 160 degrees. It makes me wonder if they were sitting there with the A/C running until it ran out of gas.
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You think she just sat in her car with the windows rolled up?
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This wasn't the typical dumb chick in a suv.
| Quote, originally posted by auditt2t » |
| You're right about staying in the car. In Arizona, when the temps reach about 115 outside, the inside of your car can reach up to about 120+ degrees (maybe even 130? There was a news article on it a while ago). Hopefully they stayed outside in the shadow of their car. |
You think she just sat in her car with the windows rolled up?
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Really now ??
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This wasn't the typical dumb chick in a suv. |
Really now ??
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