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If the IS-F is supposed to be the "M3 killer" or compete with the M3..then why did they only offer 1 version of it? Why no coupe trim, no manual option?
If someone was in the market for that kind of car...what would be the deciding factor when it really came down to it...looks? Seems to me that the M3 is the better performing/driver oriented car than the IS-F.
Haven't driven either so I'm just taking a purely neutral standpoint on this.
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Re: IS-F vs M3 (lolaccountislocked)

IS-F is a good first try, but its not slaying the M3 in any fashion.
Toyota has not gotten serious with it. And they may never considering how they are intent on being one of the most boring manufacturers.
 
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Re: IS-F vs M3 (DJMRDARK)

Quote, originally posted by DJMRDARK »
IS-F is a good first try, but its not slaying the M3 in any fashion.
Toyota has not gotten serious with it. And they may never considering how they are intent on being one of the most boring manufacturers.

Yea, that's what I don't understand. If you're going to compete with a car like the M3..why stick with only 1 basic option: 4 door automatic? Doesn't make sense to me.
Is the IS-F cheaper than the M3 or are they around the same price? That's the only thing I could see going for the IS-F when cross shopping with an M3.
 
Re: IS-F vs M3 (lolaccountislocked)

The IS-F is really fun to drive. It doesn't do much below 4k but as soon as you go past that it's as if Vtec kicked in y0!
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I wish it came with a manual option, I'd be looking into one as a replacement daily driver.
 
Re: FV-QR (muffintop)

Quote, originally posted by muffintop »
Personally I would buy a C63 AMG before either of them to be completely honest.

Same here. I prefer four-door over two-door coupe anyway.
If you want a manual, you should also check out the CTS-V. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 
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id buy a cpo M3. i wouldnt want to pay the money for it new. the TS-f is a good idea, but theres something about it that just makes me go "meh". anyone can put a powerful engine in a car, but does it make it a great car?
 
Re: IS-F vs M3 (lolaccountislocked)

A couple of weeks ago I was excited to hear we had just taken in trade a Pearl White (whatever lexus calls it) '08 IS-F and I hate to sound like the dash stroker I am (I do drive an Audi afterall
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) but my gawd, the interior materials on that thing are borderline appaling!
I assume you're more interested in hearing feedback about the driving dynamics of both cars and unfortunately I've never driven the M3, much less sat in one. My driving experience in the IS-F was brief...the Mark Levinson stereo is awesome as is the engine note but overall I was underwhelmed by the Lexus.
 
Re: IS-F vs M3 (lolaccountislocked)

Quote, originally posted by lolaccountislocked »

Yea, that's what I don't understand. If you're going to compete with a car like the M3..why stick with only 1 basic option: 4 door automatic? Doesn't make sense to me.

The C63 says HI!
 
Re: IS-F vs M3 (lolaccountislocked)

Quote, originally posted by lolaccountislocked »

Yea, that's what I don't understand. If you're going to compete with a car like the M3..why stick with only 1 basic option: 4 door automatic? Doesn't make sense to me.
Is the IS-F cheaper than the M3 or are they around the same price? That's the only thing I could see going for the IS-F when cross shopping with an M3.

They are more likely aiming it at the AMG for its segment, which I'd also prefer over this or the M3.
 
Re: FV-QR (bluerabbit0886)

Quote, originally posted by bluerabbit0886 »
id buy a cpo M3. i wouldnt want to pay the money for it new. the TS-f is a good idea, but theres something about it that just makes me go "meh". anyone can put a powerful engine in a car, but does it make it a great car?

I'm pretty sure the IS-F is even more hardcore than the M3. It rides very hard and certainly doesn't handle like a regular IS sedan.
The M3 is probably more livable as a daily driver...but I'd still take a C63 with the factory LSD over the others.
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Re: IS-F vs M3 (Ay_Caramba)

Conquest sales in this segment don't always work by the traditional numbers. The IS-F is a performance sedan built to keep Lexus buyers in Lexus showrooms. It's not going to draw BMW buyers from BMW showrooms; it's just going to help keep some Lexus buyers from becoming BMW buyers.
 
Re: FV-QR (Nubbin)

Quote, originally posted by Nubbin »

I'm pretty sure the IS-F is even more hardcore than the M3. It rides very hard and certainly doesn't handle like a regular IS sedan.

is it? i dont know, ive never driven it personally, and the only people i see in the cars are middle-aged trophy wives. it cant be thaaaat hardcore
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Re: IS-F vs M3 (Ay_Caramba)

Quote, originally posted by Ay_Caramba »

The C63 says HI!

LOL didn't even register with me
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Still though...seems like Mercedes already has the upper hand on Lexus just going by the name and also the C63 is AMG tuned which automatically = great driving dynamics.
For Lexus to jump into this segment, you'd think they'd offer something more than just the standard 4-door automatic arrangement when competing with the likes of an M3 and C63 AMG...right?
 
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