Sorry guys! got a little carried away.
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Sorry guys! got a little carried away.
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Schedule: Gas model to arrive in limited numbers in September, followed by mass production, TDI to arrive in January, and GLI to arrive in May.
Trim configuration(s)
Jetta S1 – 2.0, 115 hp, 15″ steel wheels, no AC, no radio
Jetta S2 – same car with AC and radio
SE1 – 2.5, 170 hp, leatherette
SE2 – Bluetooth and alloys, sunroof
SE3 – Premium 8 sound system
SEL1 -navigation and 17″s
SEL2 – same with sunroof
SEL3 – same with sport package
TDI1 – similar to the current one
TDI2 – with nav
GLI1 – 2.0T, 17″, sport suspension
GLI2 – sunroof
GLI3 – navigation
General points: the new sound system – RSD-310 will be standard, and Premium 8 will be an upgrade from SE3. Also there will be two nav systems available – the new smaller one, and the RNS-510. There will be no separate options, such as sunroof, or iPod adaptor, everything will be packaged.
Other things...
1) Prop rod for the hood instead of a gas cylinder.
2) What's the climate control system? Doesn't seem to be climatic, there's no temperature numbers on the dial. Looks to be a non-sensor system.
Two other things:
1) Prop rod for the hood instead of a gas cylinder.
2) What's the climate control system? Doesn't seem to be climatic, there's no temperature numbers on the dial. Looks to be a non-sensor system.
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I think you're missing the point. The cheapness extends all the way up to the high-end SEL and TDI trim levels. It's not so much about the base models aside from some genuine concerns about that engine's performance and its effect on the public's perception of the Jetta line as a whole. A lot of people are saying "If you want an enthusiast model wait for the GLI" which is not logical as many consider the SEL and TDI models to be just that while others don't consider themselves enthusiasts at all but simply want a high-end trim level.
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Can someone please elaborate on this list with more details. I imagine the RNS-510 will be exclusive to the GLI-3 trim level (and the eventual Hybrid model if it doesn't get the RNS-810) while the SELs and TDI-2 get the lower-end RNS-315.
I think it's the RCD-310 not RSD
and why would they offer 2 different nav options on the same car?....if it's true....what trim level is the 510 available on?
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Not everyone wants a hatchback. I would have waited for the Jetta TDI but feared something like this might have happened due to Jamie's posts. I wasn't expecting it to be quite this bad of course, not for the high-end trims.
There is no typical Jetta buyer type. That is just the perception created by your deep disgust for anything with a trunk.
Sadly, this appears to be true but it shouldn't be, again, not for the high-end trim levels.
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I am so turned off with the MK6 Jetta its not even a joke any more. Horible inside and out. :thumbdown:
agreed.
After seeing this, I am so content that I jumped on the '10 MK5/MK6 hybrid Jetta TDI sedan when I did... otherwise, I would never buy a Jetta. not new one, anyways...
it pains me to say this, but...horrible job, VW. :thumbdown:
Way to completely destroy the Jetta brand VW - this thing looks so cheap and I'm sure its worse in person.
How did they go from the coupe concept revealed at NAIAS to this garbage?? :banghead:
The NAIAS concept had me drooling...oh well...just dont EFF with the GTI.
How did they go from the coupe concept revealed at NAIAS to this garbage?? :banghead:
The NAIAS concept had me drooling...oh well...just dont EFF with the GTI.
I do not think that this is a letdown to the Jetta brand only, but rather to VW itself. As a business model to get a car under a specific price it is ok, but considering that VW is also introducing the NMS soon, this de-contenting is disappointing.
I like how the car looks on the outside dare I say purposeful, but the inside needs to be played with a little. Secondly, please do not bring a 115hp car back to this market. Geez. 2012 Hyundai Elantra and veloster will have a at least 30-40 more hp 4 as base when it arrives. VW don't go backwards man. Stay focused!
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I honestly, honestly think that these pre-production model SELs are part Jetta S. I think that VW hasn't fully prepared the SE and SEL models, and I think that the hood prop, the gauge cluster, the trunk liner, etc are all examples of this. No confirmation of options packages only supports this possibility. I think that VW dressed up these pre-production models with 4-wheel disk brakes, alloys, fogs, leather interior pieces, etc, but I think that other than that VW is probably still making adjustments to what will be offered in each trim package. While it might be time consuming and expensive to alter the trunk hinges at this point, the hood prop should theoretically be a simple change. There are plenty of places to attach it, I'm sure, and with the Mexican-produced wagon still using the strut, there should be plenty of extras lying around for the SE and SEL trims, not to mention TDI and GLI.
To those complaining about the small nav screen--it's been stated that two nav units will be available; this one is clearly the smaller, less-expensive version. I don't remember the model number of the more premium option.
Also, the interior is not that bad. Stylistically I prefer it over the MkV. Everyone is carping on the quality still, it's not a quality issue here, it's an options issue. The grain of the plastics on the dash and door panels is very attractive and not overly-shiny, the contrasting colors in unexpected locations is artistically modern and appealing, and the leather--faux or not--looks nice. The only parts of the interior that look even remotely downgraded from the MkV are the gauge cluster (which could easily be upgraded before October for the SE and SEL trims) and the lack of rear seat air vents. Everything else looks on par with what's in the Golf VI and shouldn't leave anyone complaining.
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You guys have all missed one detail. The rear doors no longer have door lock buttons in them, they have been replaced by a single door lock button on the center console. Cheap, Cheap, Cheap! :banghead:
Also, there was a time not so long ago when VW/Audi engines were praised for being technologically superior and efficient winning them many awards. It now looks as if even the 2.0T is dated. It's still an iron block engine :screwy: Too much weight to be lugging around taking it's toll on fuel economy and handling characteristics. VW should have invested in new aluminum engine block technology, cylinder deactivation and overall weight reduction strategies to IMPROVE fuel economy.
Ford has made huge strides in quality and technology lately. I actually like the looks of the soon to be introduced Focus. I hate to say this but personally I think it's time to buy American again.
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I'm fairly certain the higher end RNS-510 navigation will be exclusive to the GLI and Hybrid models.
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I hate the look of the Focus myself but they have made excellent progress with their engines, features and overall lineup. I wish I had bought stock back when it had dropped down to $4 as I think they have bar far the most potential of the US auto manufacturers.
with the new changes... i think that means we can still buy a volkswagen...
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My 2005.5 Jetta Pkg1 manual kicked the ever loving CRAP out of this turd in every aspect. Automatic EVERYTHING in that car and it was $22k sticker.
Pass.
Pass.
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In the first picture, of the side profile, I was surprised at how much it reminds me of the current Hyundai Sonata. As for the cost cutting, I guess Volkswagen has decided to create a car for people looking for a lower end economy car, much like a hyundai or kia, although IMO I've always felt Golf's and Jetta's were steps up from bottom of the barrel economy cars. Was there no talk of the 2 door Jetta being released in the U.S. at this unveiling in New York??
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My new MkVI Golf does not have rear door lock buttons. Why would you need them?
They lock automatically when you start to drive, and in case they were never opened, they just remain locked. When you want to unlock a rear door, you just pull the handle. Why is that engine dated?
It is only two years old. Almost all VW/Audi engines are gray cast iron blocks with aluminum heads. That technology has many advantages in terms of heat and sound insulation and strength. Given that you require a lot more aluminum, and steel liners in most cases, full-aluminum engines are not significantly lighter - especially in turboed and high-torque applications. That is a myth. VW already employs turbo, direct injection, and variable valve timing in these engines, which is why the GTI gets best in class fuel economy (24/27/32) - way better than e.g. the Mazda Speed 3 (18/21/25). And the corresponding Audi engine (which incidentally won WARD's best engine award) has variable valve lift in addition (22/25/30 with AWD!)Then you have the other WARD's best engine --- which is in my new car and gets the best mileage outside hybrids.
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