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#44 ·
FLdub said:
Man up and buy some suspension instead of little cosmetic interior parts. :laugh:
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It's those little cosmetic interior parts that set me apart from the rest.

I'd much rather see attention to detail than stock and slammed on suspension.

You may be slammed, but your interior looks dull and boring.

I have years ahead of me to worry about suspension.

If it's not broken, don't fix it.
 
#46 ·
-jakrbt- said:
Fixed :D :beer:
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LOL.

The main thing is that I want to do everything together as well.

I'm not taking the cheap route with anything on the car, let alone suspension.

I want to do full coilovers, anti-lift kit, alignment and a few other things all at once.

I want to do it right the first time.

Another 40k miles or so and suspension will be on deck.
 
#47 · (Edited)
PSU said:
It's those little cosmetic interior parts that set me apart from the rest.

I'd much rather see attention to detail than stock and slammed on suspension.

You may be slammed, but your interior looks dull and boring.

I have years ahead of me to worry about suspension.

If it's not broken, don't fix it.
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My interior is just as VW intended it to be :cool:
 
#49 ·
PSU said:
LOL.

The main thing is that I want to do everything together as well.

I'm not taking the cheap route with anything on the car, let alone suspension.

I want to do full coilovers, anti-lift kit, alignment and a few other things all at once.

I want to do it right the first time.

Another 40k miles or so and suspension will be on deck.
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I don't blame you there. I tried not to cheap out when I did my coilovers, but I did neglect the alignment part, as my car "seemed" to be okay without it and tracked perfectly straight. It wasn't until about 8k miles later that I wore through a set of tires that only had 9k on them. Lesson learned.

Make sure to add a RSB in there, too, when you finally come 'round. I should be getting mine shortly. :D Now if only I had the money for a Haldex Gen II.......
 
#50 ·
PSU said:
I'm not taking the cheap route with anything on the car, let alone suspension.

I want to do full coilovers, anti-lift kit, alignment and a few other things all at once.

I want to do it right the first time.
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I don't know about "right" or "wrong" ways; but my car with a UNIBrace and H&R Sport Springs looks better, handles better, and rides more comfortably for less than a set of coils would cost... :thumbup:

What's wrong about that? :D
 
#52 ·
-jakrbt- said:
Make sure to add a RSB in there, too, when you finally come 'round. I should be getting mine shortly. :D Now if only I had the money for a Haldex Gen II.......
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Already have the Neuspeed sway, aluminum end links and UNIbrace. Haldex Gen II is on the list though.

Saabstory02 said:
I don't know about "right" or "wrong" ways; but my car with a UNIBrace and H&R Sport Springs looks better, handles better, and rides more comfortably for less than a set of coils would cost... :thumbup:

What's wrong about that? :D
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Already have the UNIbrace.

Also, hope you aren't running those sport springs on stock shocks. If so, you completely validated my argument. :thumbdown:
 
#53 · (Edited)
PSU said:
Already have the UNIbrace.
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Excellent! Great upgrade :thumbup:

PSU said:
Also, hope you aren't running those sport springs on stock shocks. If so, you completely validated my argument. :thumbdown:
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How exactly is that? they work great, are not showing any signs of increased wear in 55,000 miles to date, and still do the job they were designed to do quite well... When they eventually wear out (as ALL shocks will eventually do) I'll replace them with something better, but until then it is unnecessary.

I do my research before purchases as well; and wouldn't have stayed with stock shocks if I didn't already know they could handle the drop. I don't make purchases just to make them. Keep stock shocks which will work; or buy new shocks just to buy new shocks... :screwy:

I may be mis-reading things here (it's been known to happen :D ) but it seems like you keep trying to say essentially "if you didn't do it the way I am, you must have done it wrong..." The only "wrong way" to do it is the way that causes damage to your car; everything else is personal preference.

For example; I think you are nuts for getting a rear sway bar. With a UNIBrace and the otherwise OEM handling capabilities of this car, it is not only unnecessary but detrimental to the proper handling characteristics of the car. That is my opinion... But I don't go spouting it off to anyone looking for an RSB; you want one then by all means go for it, it's your car :thumbup: ;)

Aaand; if I did in fact mis-read the previous posts; then my apologies :eek::D
 
#54 · (Edited)
Saabstory02 said:
Aaand; if I did in fact mis-read the previous posts; then my apologies
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How exactly is a rear sway detrimental to the proper handling characteristics?

Do you install or your own parts or pay someone to do it?

Those stock shocks will definitely wear out more quickly as a result of your lowering springs.

Thus, if you pay someone to do your upgrades, then you will be paying for double the work as opposed to if you had done springs and shocks at the same time.

Even if you do it yourself, you are wasting your own time by ripping everything apart to only install springs and then ripping it apart again to install shocks...

But that's just me.

Edit: Saabstory - Definitely not calling you out because I've seen your thread on GolfMKV and have even consulted with you and asked for advice about miscellaneous stuff before. :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
#55 · (Edited)
PSU said:
How exactly is a rear sway detrimental to the proper handling characteristics?
It keeps the car flatter in corners; preventing the suspension from keeping wheel contact in tight cornering and limiting the necessary weight transfer for Haldex to work to its fullest. Obviously it won't completely kill the handling, and in some ways it probably helps, especially if you want to feel more oversteer; but it is causing the car's own parts to fight each other. A Unibrace alone keeps the chassis from flexing too much, allowing the weight transfer but preventing the extra body roll so it does plenty by itself. Again, just my opinion, but if you get the chance you should try it with and without the RSB and see how it does both ways :thumbup:

Do you install or your own parts or pay someone to do it?
I do my own installs

Those stock shocks will definitely wear out more quickly as a result of your lowering springs.
They very well may; but as I said; 55,000 miles now and no detrimental effects yet. I never expect shocks to last more than 60-70K anyway since I push my cars with plenty of "spirited" driving, so if these last longer than 60K then they've gone as long as I expected anyway. Believe me when I say I have no problem with geting some Konis or such; but when these ones work so well there was no point yet.

Thus, if you pay someone to do your upgrades, then you will be paying for double the work as opposed to if you had done springs and shocks at the same time.

Even if you do it yourself, you are wasting your own time by ripping everything apart to only install springs and then ripping it apart again to install shocks...
As I said I do my own installs; and I don't mind wasting an extra 2 hours of my time to save $500 when it wasn't needed yet :D I completely understand it is a different story if you need to pay someone else for your installs; that adds quite a bit to any planned effort as far as cost. Seeing as I do my own, I wasn't thinking about that aspect so the "do it once" view point does make more sense in that light.
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For me it was more important to gain a little more visual appeal (without losing the handling) than to wait longer for a single install. As you said above, another 40K and you'll have suspension handled; but to me that would be 40K of riding too high for my tastes. Made more sense to drop it now; and down the road when shocks are too worn I can either upgrade them or go to coils as I see fit at that point. For ~ $225 it is definitely worth it to me :thumbup:

PSU said:
Edit: Saabstory - Definitely not calling you out because I've seen your thread on GolfMKV and have even consulted with you and asked for advice about miscellaneous stuff before. :thumbup: :thumbup:
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I was not calling you out at all either bud; I love your car, I don't even mind the stickers :D It just seemed like you were taking some comments a little to closely, and I wanted to be sure we all were in agreement of "each to his own" so to speak. And as always glad to help with any questions you get bud! :thumbup:

Now; here's two on me:beer: :beer:, sorry if I came off a little harsh as I certainly didn't mean to. Oh, and now get back to getting suspension so you can be in this thread! :D
 
#56 ·
LOL, yeah I hear ya.

I don't like the wheel gap either, but I have to deal with it for now at least. :laugh:

I have the money ready to roll for the coilovers, but I just can't justify another alignment right now after just paying $100 for one a month ago... and an alignment is necessary if you value your tire life. :laugh: (I also want to see how long these Invo's will last without being lowered).

Maybe this winter... :beer: :beer:
 
#58 ·
PSU said:
LOL, yeah I hear ya.

I don't like the wheel gap either, but I have to deal with it for now at least. :laugh:

I have the money ready to roll for the coilovers, but I just can't justify another alignment right now after just paying $100 for one a month ago... and an alignment is necessary if you value your tire life. :laugh: (I also want to see how long these Invo's will last without being lowered).

Maybe this winter... :beer: :beer:
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QFT! I learned this lesson the hard way. Not only did I completely kill a set of tires (cord showing on inner shoulders up front), but I have a pretty pissed off wife to deal with, too. Certainly not what I wanted to spend $600 on for sure. That money could have been better spent elsewhere.

I suppose at the lest, though, it did give me a chance to get the tires I should've put on in the first place. Just under 9k miles on them so far at 1.4" dropped and still plenty of tread life left. :thumbup:

But you do understand of course that it wouldn't be the Dub community if we didn't feel compelled to tell you......

MOAR LOW!!!!! :D
 
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