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zbeasty said:
Fab was running Kuhmo KU36 at 32psi. I've done a 1.8s 60' time on my standard factory 19's (Dunlop Sportmax) at 42psi. Launching on the street is awesome as long as it's dry. Add water and it will spin through to 3rd. Even without LC mine does a 2.3s 60'.
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It would be interesting to see 60ft times with smaller (lighter) wheels.

For comparison, my "relatively stock" MKIV R32 can do high 1.7x on unpreprepared concrete (decommissioned airbase) scca prosolo drag launches - Atwood tuned, 100 oct, stock internals, high flow cats and techtonics exhaust. 1.9 60fts are the norm without an overly aggressive launch.
 
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a4tq said:
It would be interesting to see 60ft times with smaller (lighter) wheels.

For comparison, my "relatively stock" MKIV R32 can do high 1.7x on unpreprepared concrete (decommissioned airbase) scca prosolo drag launches - Atwood tuned, 100 oct, stock internals, high flow cats and techtonics exhaust. 1.9 60fts are the norm without an overly aggressive launch.
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Fab was running 18" Oz Ultraleggera's which are a fair bit lighter than the stock wheels. I don't think we'll get much quicker 60' times unless we drop some weight. I did a 6000 rpm launch on mine and still only got a 1.798. The DSG just doesn't "dump" the clutch like you can in a manual. The R has enough traction to do a high rpm dump clutch launch but I don't know how the rest of the manual drivetrain will take it given it is pushing 3500 - 3600 lbs. Plenty of guys in the UK are replacing the clutches in their S3's and a lot of them haven't even been on the strip.
 
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GlfSprtCT1 said:
damn good numbers guys!!!! Wonder what a golf r will do with a stg3 kit on it?? hmmm...


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Manual APR Stg 3 did a 13.3 12 months ago. Don't know how sympathetic the driver was on the launch though. Could be some more time in it but you will have clutch issues sooner rather than later. Don't know of any DSG Stg3 cars that have run but they should do at least a very low 12 if not drop into the 11's.
 
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378 bhp sounds about right considering what our us spec gti's are getting with a giac/ ko4 high output software. curse us and the lack of traction lol


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Austin@GIAC said:
That is the exact calibration he ran at the track this past weekend.
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Something doesn't add up. A superb driver and AWD can't beat physics. The 275awhp is not enough to propel the R to 12.5 without serious weight reduction.
 
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miniwog said:
I wouldn't waste my time mate, their stage 1/2/2+ tunes down under are all poor compared to the GIAC offerings.
Fab's beast going from APR 2+ to GIAC Extreme software is like a totally different car!

BTW, the R with DSG is a great combo. Nothing to do with downhill hehe!
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Hi Dave..you miniwog!
 
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UncannySkill said:
With DSG, yes, it is.
Look at the trap speed. 106 mph is about right for cars with 300+ hp.
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Like I said, 275awhp is not enough for a 3300lb+ vehicle to hit 12.5. I really would like to know the actual whp numbers. That trap speed and vehicle weight is accurate for a 13.0 time. Even better news if the work done is putting out more power to the wheels :thumbup:.

Better driver, dsg, etc just allows for people reach that theoretical limit.
 
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sh{}e said:
Like I said, 275awhp is not enough for a 3300lb+ vehicle to hit 12.5. I really would like to know the actual whp numbers. That trap speed and vehicle weight is accurate for a 13.0 time. Even better news if the work done is putting out more power to the wheels :thumbup:.

Better driver, dsg, etc just allows for people reach that theoretical limit.
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Totally understand where u are coming from as it does seem a bit odd but the DSG in the R is more refined than the older units not to mention Fabs DSG HPA flash as well.
There have been tests on bone stock golf r dsg's in australia which have come in at 13.6 on the quarter mile which makes it easyer to believe, whilst the manuals struggle to do a flat 14.
 
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sh{}e said:
Like I said, 275awhp is not enough for a 3300lb+ vehicle to hit 12.5. I really would like to know the actual whp numbers. That trap speed and vehicle weight is accurate for a 13.0 time. Even better news if the work done is putting out more power to the wheels :thumbup:.

Better driver, dsg, etc just allows for people reach that theoretical limit.
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That's exactly my point. The trap speed suggest a slower time but it's able to run 12.5 with the flashed DSG.
 
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UncannySkill said:
That's exactly my point. The trap speed suggest a slower time but it's able to run 12.5 with the flashed DSG.
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There are now 3 K04 turbo R's in Aus that have run 12's (12.4, 12.5 & 12.7) and all have varying levels of mods and tunes from different companies with Fab being the quickest so far. The times have been run at National or International certified drag strips and the trap speeds are all similar. The R makes all of its time in the launch and first half of the track compared to a GTI with the same power which will be slower off the line but have a higher trap speed.
 
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sh{}e said:
Like I said, 275awhp is not enough for a 3300lb+ vehicle to hit 12.5. I really would like to know the actual whp numbers. That trap speed and vehicle weight is accurate for a 13.0 time. Even better news if the work done is putting out more power to the wheels :thumbup:.

Better driver, dsg, etc just allows for people reach that theoretical limit.
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Hate to break it to you but my last dyno run said I have 201kw at the wheels and I've run a 12.5 as well. I've also run as fast as 108mph which is a bit faster than Fab and my car is heavier (5 door). I'm actually going to be near a weighbridge tomorrow so I will go and get my car weighed and load up the certificate.

The only way you are going to get a true power figure is to take the motor out of the car and put it on an engine dyno. There are always going to be differences in chassis dyno's and then trying to translate to at the crank is just a guess.

Dyno readings are only useful as a tuning tool to compare before and after of mods made. My car made 180kw on one dyno then made 198kw on another without making any changes. Both dyno's were the same model from the same manufacturer. After some more mods it now makes 201kw on the dyno where it made 180kw but I can't assume that it will now make 219kw if I run it on the other dyno.
 
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Went to the weighbridge today but wasn't going to pay them $40 to give me a print out. He did at least write it down for me and car with half a tank of fuel but no driver was 1540kg. Add my lard arse 100kg and you are near as to 3600lbs. Fab's car is at least 100lbs lighter than mine but 12.4 in a 3500lb car is moving and a good indication of the power it is making.
 
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