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G60 surging idle after head gasket replacement, now won't start, help!

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#22 ·
crazynorweegian said:
Which is why you respond to threads and don't start them.
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Or something like that :laugh:

corradokyd said:
when you reset your cam timing did you crank the motor by the cam sprocket or the crank. my car did exactly that when my crank keyway stripped....
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This was going to be my next guess if the CTS and Vacuum lines are good. Hence why I said retime the engine.
 
#24 ·
Austin_85'MKII said:
adjusted isv. no dice. car starts a lot easier though :laugh:
thanks for the help again everyone.
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Did you check the CTS???? Why hasn't that been your first thing to test with a multimeter and then replace if bad? Is it running rich? How do the plugs look?
 
Discussion starter · #25 · (Edited)
the plugs are s*** but the car was running better before i did the head gasket. let me dig out the other cts and try that because someone stole my multimeter ( i have a spare cts because i thought it was bad at one point so i replaced it )

the car is running rich. :thumbdown:
 
#26 ·
Austin_85'MKII said:
the plugs are s*** but the car was running better before i did the head gasket. let me dig out the other cts and try that because someone stole my multimeter ( i have a spare cts because i thought it was bad at one point so i replaced it )
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Check the wiring to the CTS too. Replace the plugs.

This is like hearding cats... :banghead:
 
#29 ·
why can't you just time it to factory specs and find your problem else where? 6 degrees at 2k-2500 rpms with the blue cts disconnected.

mine runs way better after i found out it was 25 degrees btdc at idle, lol
 
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wed3k said:
why can't you just time it to factory specs and find your problem else where? 6 degrees at 2k-2500 rpms with the blue cts disconnected.

mine runs way better after i found out it was 25 degrees btdc at idle, lol
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so swap the blue cts piggyback to the black on then time it? the car wont run if thats unplugged:screwy:
 
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#33 ·
Austin_85'MKII said:
so swap the blue cts piggyback to the black on then time it? the car wont run if thats unplugged:screwy:
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Yes it will. It just runs very rough.

Proper ignition timing procedure is to start the car and let it come up to temperature. You must have a working CTS for this. Loosen the distributor hold down bolt

Then remove the CTS plug. This puts the ECU into a special learn mode for ignition timing.

With a timing light line up the mark on the flywheel through the trans hole. The large mark is 6 degrees advanced. Adjust the distributor until it lines up. Do this at about 2500 RPM

Plug the CTS back in and then rev the engine a couple times. Shut the car off and tighten the distributor.
 
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TheBurninator said:
With a timing light line up the mark on the flywheel through the trans hole. The large mark is 6 degrees advanced. Adjust the distributor until it lines up. Do this at about 2500 RPM
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wouldnt the crankshaft mark be relevant to the flywheel mark in terms of TDC.?
or is the flywheel mark 6 degrees advanced and irrelevant to the TDC mark on the crankshaft.

i hope you can make sense of that :D
 
#35 ·
Austin_85'MKII said:
wouldnt the crankshaft mark be relevant to the flywheel mark in terms of TDC.?
or is the flywheel mark 6 degrees advanced and irrelevant to the TDC mark on the crankshaft.

i hope you can make sense of that :D
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The mark on the crank pulley is 0 degrees, the 6 degree mark is on the flywheel and easier to see while doing this.
 
#37 ·
Austin_85'MKII said:
is there a TDC mark on the Intermediate shaft? I think that might be the problem
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If the marks on the IM shaft/crank/cam don't line up then you will have issues. That is static timing that I told you to check first. :banghead::banghead:

Im done helping. someone elses turn to baby sit
 
#38 ·
TheBurninator said:
If the marks on the IM shaft/crank/cam don't line up then you will have issues. That is static timing that I told you to check first. :banghead::banghead:

Im done helping. someone elses turn to baby sit
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Yeah, I am a bit confused as well. I am no timing expert, but it seems that if you did a head gasket that you should have a Bentley and I KNOW the book has the timing marks listed. I just replaced my timing belt and looked at them all. Admittedly, I could not find the flywheel mark, but I replaced the flywheel a while back and I cannot even be certain that it came with one. It sounds like you might need a car buddy or a house call from a car doctor, you are over your head. LOL.
 
#39 ·
crazynorweegian said:
Yeah, I am a bit confused as well. I am no timing expert, but it seems that if you did a head gasket that you should have a Bentley and I KNOW the book has the timing marks listed. I just replaced my timing belt and looked at them all. Admittedly, I could not find the flywheel mark, but I replaced the flywheel a while back and I cannot even be certain that it came with one. It sounds like you might need a car buddy or a house call from a car doctor, you are over your head. LOL.
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Aftermarket flywheels are not market. You are supposed to mark them before you install them. - Per the bentley manual.
 
#40 ·
TheBurninator said:
Aftermarket flywheels are not market. You are supposed to mark them before you install them. - Per the bentley manual.
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Ouch, you got me. But as you already implied, if you want to take everything apart, you can use the ones on the sprocket, etc.
 
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