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So, I'm going to be doing my DSG, Haldex, Rear Diff, and engine oil soon.

Considering buying the DSG Filler Tool and a few other goodies.

Would any of you guys be interested if I did a "loaner" tool program for such services via my website?

Basically, it would allow you guys to do your own maintenance without the cost aspect of getting the right tools. It would be a flat fee to rent the tool, and would include shipping to you as well as return shipping label. A deposit would be held to ensure the return of the tool, and everything would be tracked. I know there might be some services like this about, but figured it might help some fellow dubbers save on having to buy your own specialty tools.

For example, the DSG Oil filler tool is ~$200-250 new. Rental would be reasonable and makes doing it yourself MUCH easier. I'm likely to do a complete kit with all of the tools you'll need for those who don't have access to such things as large sockets and such.
 
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Shawn, I just bought the Assenmacher DSG fill tool from www.ntxtools.com

You can make your own with just the adapter that screws into the drain plug and attach that to some tubing and a funnel or to a pesticide sprayer.
http://www.ntxtools.com/network-tool-warehouse/ASM-ATF16DSG.html
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I went ahead and bought the dedicated tool with all the adaptors to do DSG and Haldex changes.
I got the 10 L version, since DSG requires 5.5 or more liters.
http://www.ntxtools.com/network-tool-warehouse/ASM-ATF1033-10VW.html
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They have 3L and 5L versions, too. Ask for a discount. I got the 10L on sale for $190 with tax and shipping. More versatile than the VW tool. It is stoutly built. Will last for 50 years, and I think it is a better choice for a loaner tool. Or maybe there could be a group buy. Wife's TDI Golf already has nearly 38K miles, so I am going to do her DSG in a few months. I thought about making my own tool with just the adaptor for $25, but my time is valuable, I wanted something durable, and with 2 DSG VWs, this was the ticket for me.
I think your loaner tool program is a great idea, but think about the Assenmacher stuff, since it can be used for DSG and Haldex with one tool. (I am not affiliated with Assenmacher; I just have this tool and their oil funnel for the .:R32. I am not affiliated with ntxtools either, but their prices were the best last month.)
 
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Downside to the DIY kit, when using the bug spray type of setup is that it'll be more costly to ship. I'll look into it, like you I want something that will last and let's be honest, I don't want to risk my DIY tool to break when someone is borrowing it.

I'll check all this out when I get home though! Good info as always, sir.
 
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Simplest, lightest way to make a DIY tool for the lowest shipping cost is to use the AST DSG adaptor, heavy duty plastic tubing, a large plastic funnel (or an old container from a quart of oil with the bottom cut off), and some wire put through a small hole drilled in either side of the funnel to hang it up from the raised hood to keep your arms happy.

For changing the Haldex fluid, the special VW tool for that looks like the DSG tool. You could make another DIY tool with a small diameter, straight adaptor to fit in the Haldex fill hole, which is quite small. There is a steel Assenmacher adaptor for that. Might be able to find a way to easily switch the DSG and Haldex adaptors with clamps or something similar. This route is a smaller investment that ships for less.

Hope you and your family are well and warm, Beta!
 
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From the A3 forums:

MisterJJ said:
There's a lot of good guides for doing the DSG service, like this one: http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/multi/dsg-diy-fluid-change-service.htm

But I found the "factory fill" method to be a messy pain in the arse. I liked the idea of filling from the top but the fluid goes VERY slowly down the filter opening so you would have to be constantly filling up the funnel and waiting. The Walmart funnel shown in the DIY mentioned above looks like a good idea but it would be hard to get the fluid to drip at the correct rate so it does not take forever but also does not overflow. So here's my solution.

Additional tools required: Sharp, pointy tool, like an awl or small phillips screwdriver to punch a small hole the fluid bottle and a larger diameter punch or flat blade screwdriver for opening up the hole larger.

Remove the old filter, drain the fluid, and replace snorkle and plug as you normally would.

Prepare the DSG fluid bottle by cleaning off a bottom corner of a bottle.

Using clean tools, punch hole in bottom corner of unopened fluid bottle and expand size of hole to about 3/16" diameter. Be very careful not to squeeze the bottle and shoot fluid out of the hole you just made! Here's a pic:
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Now place your hand on the bottle and put your index finger over the hole.

Turn bottle right side up, position over filter opening, and release finger. Make sure corner of bottle rests below the lip of the filter opening. Like this:
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Do NOT remove the plastic cap of the fluid bottle!!! If you do, all the fluid will drain from the bottle at once!

If done correctly, the fluid will fill up until it blocks the hole, preventing air from entering the bottle and stopping the fluid flow. As the fluid level goes down, air is allowed into the bottle and the fluid flows again without risk of overflowing.

If the fluid does not flow or just barely drips, you need a bigger hole.


Also, if you want to get as much of the old fluid out as reasonably possible, jack up the driver side of the car while it is draining. I got an additional .2 liters out for a total of 4.7 liters. So filling with just 5 liters was still okay.
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