I'm just curious, does anyone know what the final gear ratio in our car? I'm just curious.
Final Gear Ratio
omeezy
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Re: Final Gear Ratio (omeezy)
there are 2 final drives... im sure Eric will pop in here and tell you what the ratios are at some point...hes got charts and sh*t
there are 2 final drives... im sure Eric will pop in here and tell you what the ratios are at some point...hes got charts and sh*t
Re: Final Gear Ratio (Integrale)
yea i'm a little confused on that part...how is it that we have two different final gear ratios and when is it that i'm using a the 3.09s vs. the 3.94s or does it even work like that. Also I believe that our gearing has a lot to do with our car's acceleration times because it seems that they're geared more for the top end. Is there anyway I could drop in a shorter gear like a 4.10 in or something? I beleive thats what the some of the hondas and such like the rsx-s have and i think with our engines and level of torqe, a gear like that would help us pull a lot harder down low. Just a thought
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yea i'm a little confused on that part...how is it that we have two different final gear ratios and when is it that i'm using a the 3.09s vs. the 3.94s or does it even work like that. Also I believe that our gearing has a lot to do with our car's acceleration times because it seems that they're geared more for the top end. Is there anyway I could drop in a shorter gear like a 4.10 in or something? I beleive thats what the some of the hondas and such like the rsx-s have and i think with our engines and level of torqe, a gear like that would help us pull a lot harder down low. Just a thought
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Re: Final Gear Ratio (omeezy)
racers heaven has a theory about the two final drives.
he tried this several times with this result:
if you rev out every gear you will top out sooner(lower mph).
but if you shift way before redline you will top out way later(high mph).
racers heaven has a theory about the two final drives.
he tried this several times with this result:
if you rev out every gear you will top out sooner(lower mph).
but if you shift way before redline you will top out way later(high mph).
Re: Final Gear Ratio (bakersfield_gti)
1st: 3.36 final: 3.94
2nd: 2.09
3rd: 1.47
4th: 1.15
5th: 1.19 final: 3.09
6th: 0.98
this is all straight my source book. i looked at the Turbo S and all it has different is a slightly shorter first. i'm trying to get my hands on the gearing from my TT 6sp to help you guys out. from what i've heard, is you have to replace ALL of the gearing to change any of it. it's not like the normal 5spd trannies we've played with in the past.
1st: 3.36 final: 3.94
2nd: 2.09
3rd: 1.47
4th: 1.15
5th: 1.19 final: 3.09
6th: 0.98
this is all straight my source book. i looked at the Turbo S and all it has different is a slightly shorter first. i'm trying to get my hands on the gearing from my TT 6sp to help you guys out. from what i've heard, is you have to replace ALL of the gearing to change any of it. it's not like the normal 5spd trannies we've played with in the past.
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Re: Final Gear Ratio (omeezy)
if you want a fast car gears is the way to go. the only thing that you have to ask your self is what do you want. A fast1/4 mile time.or a fast mid range for the track.W/ gears you could make a high 12sec car w/ just gears and nothing else if you know how to gear it,you won't have the driveablity tho.for 5000 you could have this guy build you a sick ass trany http://www.vwemporium.com/small shop but he has built some realy nice close ratio trans that I have seen in person.I wish I had the $ to do it but I just got my SC so I'm poor as hell. hey M this 1 ! whats up w/ the TT stuff. would love to see that stuff http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
if you want a fast car gears is the way to go. the only thing that you have to ask your self is what do you want. A fast1/4 mile time.or a fast mid range for the track.W/ gears you could make a high 12sec car w/ just gears and nothing else if you know how to gear it,you won't have the driveablity tho.for 5000 you could have this guy build you a sick ass trany http://www.vwemporium.com/small shop but he has built some realy nice close ratio trans that I have seen in person.I wish I had the $ to do it but I just got my SC so I'm poor as hell. hey M this 1 ! whats up w/ the TT stuff. would love to see that stuff http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Re: Final Gear Ratio (RTW gti)
I'd be interested in having my gears made just a bit shorter, I don't know where to have something like that done can any tranny shop do it? I would like to at least look into it. You said you just got your S/C??? damn you lol, when did you recieve it and when do you plan to have it installed? I'm currently in the middle of saving for it, hopefully I'll have one under my hood by june.
I'd be interested in having my gears made just a bit shorter, I don't know where to have something like that done can any tranny shop do it? I would like to at least look into it. You said you just got your S/C??? damn you lol, when did you recieve it and when do you plan to have it installed? I'm currently in the middle of saving for it, hopefully I'll have one under my hood by june.
Re: Final Gear Ratio (vwericvw)
hmm so perhaps thats why i took that 225hp TT soo easily above 90mph, i thought it was just because of his lack of cubic inches and the drag cause by his awd. Eric, do you think it'd be possible for us to somehow get a hold of the gears froma 225TT and swap them into our tranny since we basically have the same transmisson i beleive. I would love to do that just to experiment and see how the car would run with shorter gearing.
hmm so perhaps thats why i took that 225hp TT soo easily above 90mph, i thought it was just because of his lack of cubic inches and the drag cause by his awd. Eric, do you think it'd be possible for us to somehow get a hold of the gears froma 225TT and swap them into our tranny since we basically have the same transmisson i beleive. I would love to do that just to experiment and see how the car would run with shorter gearing.
Re: Final Gear Ratio (omeezy)
I think I agree with Eric, our gearing is too short...this car needs longer legs and can handle it I think...it'll make it even more potent in the midrange if it did.
| Quote, originally posted by omeezy » |
| hmm so perhaps thats why i took that 225hp TT soo easily above 90mph, i thought it was just because of his lack of cubic inches and the drag cause by his awd. Eric, do you think it'd be possible for us to somehow get a hold of the gears froma 225TT and swap them into our tranny since we basically have the same transmisson i beleive. I would love to do that just to experiment and see how the car would run with shorter gearing. |
I think I agree with Eric, our gearing is too short...this car needs longer legs and can handle it I think...it'll make it even more potent in the midrange if it did.
Re: Final Gear Ratio (Integrale)
out of the 3 cars listed above with our 6spd, it seems that we have the tallest gearign of them all, interesting. so you think our midrange will improve with slighty taller gearing? like perhaps in the 3rd gear?
out of the 3 cars listed above with our 6spd, it seems that we have the tallest gearign of them all, interesting. so you think our midrange will improve with slighty taller gearing? like perhaps in the 3rd gear?
Re: Final Gear Ratio (omeezy)
I think since out engines can breath better, it'd make sense to have taller gearing to allow the car to stay in gear a little longer. Also, in midrange, taller gearing will help overall acceleration...say in 3rd and 4th as you say.
I think our final drive could be alittle lower for sure...I'd also like to see out first and second gears a little longer with a longer final drive.
I think since out engines can breath better, it'd make sense to have taller gearing to allow the car to stay in gear a little longer. Also, in midrange, taller gearing will help overall acceleration...say in 3rd and 4th as you say.
I think our final drive could be alittle lower for sure...I'd also like to see out first and second gears a little longer with a longer final drive.
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Re: Final Gear Ratio (Integrale)
I agree.w/ vwericvw and interale.I think that we are losing power in the gears.I really hate 3.but like I said in my other post it's all about what you want.for me I dont drag so I want power from 40 to 135 for the track ,all mid range. if you go to http://www.eurospecsport.comall so if you go to http://www.tmtuning.com they have all the gears that we would need to build something.if you call tm and ask for damian he can really hook you up w/ some info on what to use for a sick trany and or build you one
oh and to answer your ? on the SC I got it the other day and I can't wait to put it in. I"m in the middle of putting my rabbit's motor back toghther and droping it back in so once I finsh that then I will start that.....and can I say the kit is very clean and put together nicely.I also am in the middle of working on a head for our cars so I am up to my A$$ in projects so as soon as I can I'll let you guys know.... http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
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Modified by RTW gti at 8:31 PM 5-12-2003
Modified by RTW gti at 8:32 PM 5-12-2003
I agree.w/ vwericvw and interale.I think that we are losing power in the gears.I really hate 3.but like I said in my other post it's all about what you want.for me I dont drag so I want power from 40 to 135 for the track ,all mid range. if you go to http://www.eurospecsport.comall so if you go to http://www.tmtuning.com they have all the gears that we would need to build something.if you call tm and ask for damian he can really hook you up w/ some info on what to use for a sick trany and or build you one
oh and to answer your ? on the SC I got it the other day and I can't wait to put it in. I"m in the middle of putting my rabbit's motor back toghther and droping it back in so once I finsh that then I will start that.....and can I say the kit is very clean and put together nicely.I also am in the middle of working on a head for our cars so I am up to my A$$ in projects so as soon as I can I'll let you guys know.... http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Modified by RTW gti at 8:31 PM 5-12-2003
Modified by RTW gti at 8:32 PM 5-12-2003
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Re: Final Gear Ratio (omeezy)
omeezy,
what do you do, and where do you work to be able to afford a 4K supercharger?
Modified by bakersfield_gti at 9:20 AM 5-13-2003
omeezy,
what do you do, and where do you work to be able to afford a 4K supercharger?
Modified by bakersfield_gti at 9:20 AM 5-13-2003
Re: Final Gear Ratio (bakersfield_gti)
Nothin much I'm only a college freshmen school is where i spend most of my time. After school i do all sorts of things to make money. People like me will never ever go broke just because we've got that hustle mentality, if i need money i'll go out and find some way of making it and if i want to buy something i generally can. Couple that with making some good sound decision in the market and soon enough i'll have an S/C
Nothin much I'm only a college freshmen school is where i spend most of my time. After school i do all sorts of things to make money. People like me will never ever go broke just because we've got that hustle mentality, if i need money i'll go out and find some way of making it and if i want to buy something i generally can. Couple that with making some good sound decision in the market and soon enough i'll have an S/C
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Re: Final Gear Ratio (omeezy)
so your saying your parents give you money, or buy your ****?
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so your saying your parents give you money, or buy your ****?
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| Nothin much I'm only a college freshmen school is where i spend most of my time. After school i do all sorts of things to make money. People like me will never ever go broke just because we've got that hustle mentality, if i need money i'll go out and find some way of making it and if i want to buy something i generally can. Couple that with making some good sound decision in the market and soon enough i'll have an S/C |
Re: Final Gear Ratio (vwericvw)
I put in a gearbox tighter than the 225TT. I'll find the ratios & post them. Omeezy you can come buy & drive it if you like....even ask Raffi, he drove it for 10 days on 1 Lap w/ me. I know my finals are 4.20 / 3.34....but unsure on the gear stack. If your doing a S/C I would not go tighter gearing.
Mike Potter
Ok, I found the chart.
1-4th final 4.20 5-6th final 3.315
1st gear = 3.416 = ratio 13.21
2nd gear = 2.105 = ratio 8.84
3rd gear = 1.481 = ratio 6.22
4th gear = 1.151 = ratio 4.83
5th gear = 1.166 = ratio 3.87
6th gear = 0.969 = ratio 3.21
Modified by Parts4vws at 8:52 PM 5-15-2003
| Quote, originally posted by vwericvw » |
i think our ratios are actually too short personally.
The TT gears are A LOT shorter down low. ERiC |
I put in a gearbox tighter than the 225TT. I'll find the ratios & post them. Omeezy you can come buy & drive it if you like....even ask Raffi, he drove it for 10 days on 1 Lap w/ me. I know my finals are 4.20 / 3.34....but unsure on the gear stack. If your doing a S/C I would not go tighter gearing.
Mike Potter
Ok, I found the chart.
1-4th final 4.20 5-6th final 3.315
1st gear = 3.416 = ratio 13.21
2nd gear = 2.105 = ratio 8.84
3rd gear = 1.481 = ratio 6.22
4th gear = 1.151 = ratio 4.83
5th gear = 1.166 = ratio 3.87
6th gear = 0.969 = ratio 3.21
Modified by Parts4vws at 8:52 PM 5-15-2003
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