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HA! I have an aging B5 too (1999) and I am having a heck of a time finding a $30k or less car that I find interesting. I've driven a bunch...I've even driven a Jetta Sportwagen 3x (one used, one 6-spd, and one dsg). I just can't get excited about it no matter how much I try. I want a car that drives like the GTI but has some cargo room. We have a V50 too and if I could buy that car today in t5 trim with a 6-spd, that would be our next car.

Heck at any price range... there are no wagons let alone with manual tranny. SUX.

I may end up keeping the B5, putting a new clutch in it, and buying an Abarth as a 3rd car:D
 
I've been going to the Chicago Auto Show since '95.

If somehow the 2013 Auto Show featured the same cars from '96, what would you do? Fall asleep in a Chevy Corsica?

I also believe today's cars are boring, but a lot of that is based on looks.
Everything is shapeless plastic curves. In various shades of black, gray or beige.

I don't like the Mini, but I do think it's interesting. Same for the New Beetle and Fiat 500.
But, if I had to choose between a '96 Eldorado over a '13 Mini, I'd probably go with the Eldo.
 
I agree as well. I think cars have lost all their rawness. they all feel too numb, unless you start getting into the expensive ****. Even the base hyundais feel too heavy and numb.
cars dont fizz and pop anymore, they dont rattle and move about, theyre too stable and too boring. They lost that visceral feel.
 
I agree BUT all this new tech is more weight and more numb.
I do like push button start, NAV in dash, and ESP. But all the other stuff is boring.
I don't see any one feature that is make-or-break for a car's curb weight. It's the combination of safety and size demanded by our economic and regulatory climate.

The new 911 is laden with tech and only weighs 3000lb.

It also manages to feel more direct and organic than cars w/less computer involvement.

When I said tech, I meant things like EPS, torque-vectoring differentials, DCT-type stuff, which have increased performance AND decreased driver effort.
 
I dont think we're bored, just spoiled. Too much choice out there.
Back in the mid-90's there was less choice, so a 1998 accord seemed "better" per say than most cars out at the time. Every car out there is pretty standardized now, so less of "bad" cars. Technology has improved and every manufacture is putting out decent cars. Just too many of them, and they're all the same.
 
Close, Integra type-R
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I'm also picky about what I choose to own, but that doesn't mean I don't like the new stuff or think it's worth buying.

My 10 is ITR, Accord, S2K, NSX, Civic Si, Boss 302, JCW Mini, 1-series, RDX, MDX.
 
The last time I was impressed enough to buy a new car was in 2002 when I purchased a Mazda Protege5. Yes it was a bit underpowered, but the car was just a hoot to drive; combined with the hatchback and a super reasonable purchase price.

I wonder if Mazda 10 years later is producing similar products.
 
Totally agree. Been feeling that way for a while. I talked myself into a Mazda3, sold my MKIII and hated my automotive life for the next year and a half.

Seems like all the interesting options for fun, all around cars are from the 90s and early 2000's.
 
I love how people say the Mk4 is "iconic" and they are waiting for another car like that to come along. Nobody thought it was iconic when it came out.
I don't know if "iconic" is the word, but the B5 Passat and MK4 Golf/Jetta are what put VW back into the mainstream American market and pulled them from the brink of bankruptcy. VW dealerships had never seen the kind of traffic and business that they had after the intro of those models, particularly after the 1.8T was introduced into the mark 4 lineup. I know first hand, I was hired while in HS to field test drives and questions from all the hordes, then hand over the serious ones to a salesman. Fun job, great pay for a highschool kid.
 
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