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My parents had a car with those. They became burning hot to the touch whenever the outside temperature was greater than 80 degrees.

No wonder so many people didn't wear seatbelts back then!! Not worth risking third degree burns.



x2. Some people prefer it. It's easier to see and control, especially for passengers who may not be as familiar with button placement as a regular owner/driver might be.



Back in the day, these were across a huge range of cars for quite some time. The tools were amortized over millions of units.

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Saabs featured the ignition location in the center console, in order to avoid injury to the driver's right knee in collisions.

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This feature was considered so critical to Saab design that GM redesigned the Chevrolet Trailblazer's center console when the vehicle was rebadged as the Saab 9-7X:

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1) Toyota digital clock: Toyota puts one of these in all their cars, no matter how out of place it looks.
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My uncle had a '90s Toyota Corolla base model that had a plastic knockout plug with the Toyota logo on it, in place of where the clock would go on the fancier models. This was back when the base Corolla was one of the last cars to have a 3-speed automatic, so it's not surprising that they were so cheap, they didn't even give you a clock!
 
Saabs featured the ignition location in the center console, in order to avoid injury to the driver's right knee in collisions.
Plus, you can trick people who never driven a Saab before:laugh::laugh:
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This style of center stack seems to be in several different Fords (without MyFord Touch):

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There was a time a while ago when lots of Hondas (and perhaps other brands of cars) had the trunk and fuel door release levers on the floor next to the driver's seat.

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My uncle had a '90s Toyota Corolla base model that had a plastic knockout plug with the Toyota logo on it, in place of where the clock would go on the fancier models. This was back when the base Corolla was one of the last cars to have a 3-speed automatic, so it's not surprising that they were so cheap, they didn't even give you a clock!
My 93 Corolla had this. Luckily the plug was back there so a quick trip to the junk yard you had a clock.
 
Mercedes Benz idiotic door mounted seat controls:

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Why idiotic? That's like THE gold standard for ease of use.

For a while there Nissan had a major boner affair with orange dashboard lighting. They put that **** in everything.
 
They finally stopped including it with the new Tundra and Tacoma. The GS350 introduced the analog clock for Lexus.


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Honda did this as well until they started using their i-MID display. RLX still has it though. I bet the Honda JP execs specifically demanded it remain there as a symbol of its Japanese heritage.


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What really annoys me are Porsche switch blanks. The worst part is that you can't even option up a model to fill all the holes. The location is terrible as well; it's one thing to have them to the left of the steering wheel, but they put these smack in the middle of the center console. :mad:


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Actually Toyota deleted the dot matrix clock in the Tacoma for MY2015, My 2014 still has it, but it's gone on the last year of the 2nd gen.

Here's a 2015 Tacoma dash for reference, the dot matrix clock used to be were that plate is below the touch screen that now reads "Tacoma".

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Great thread. IIRC originally Porsche had the key setup this way for drivers at LeMans to start it with their left hand and put it in first with their right at the same time for a quicker takeoff.
The story I heard is that some races started with the driver standing outside the car, so being able to reach in through the window and start the engine before even getting in was a time advantage. But your theory sounds more plausible.
 
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