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OaklandGTI

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Ok, I have owned manual cars for my entire life, and this is the first one that's perplexing. I have an issue with my MK7 "accidently" engaging into reverse when I want to shift into first. This doesn't always happen, and I've now isolated the biggest red flag of when it happens, but I can't tell if it's "normal" or not.

At a stop light, I shift into first, no problem. No confusion with reverse here.

Backing out of the garage, I now have the car intentionally in reverse (by pushing down and into R as we all know.) Again, no problem.
Camera goes on, I'm in reverse and I drive back slowly out of the garage. Great.

I'm now back all the way I need to be, and I now want to shift into first, so I engage first gear, and I swear, about 10% of the time, it's STILL goes continues in reverse. It's really bad and highly dangerous. It's almost as if once the lockout is disabled and the GTI knows you want to be in reverse with the cam on and everything, that even the slightest hint in-between R and 1st will cause the car to shift into reverse.

I guess I could take it in, but I think this is just like the fuel gauge debacle where I only get about 10.5 gallons on a fill up and that's just the way it is due to a design flaw. I don't mind the fuel gauge issue, but this one is really troubling when you're reversing out of a parallel parking situation and then nearly reverse into the car behind you accidently, etc.

I honestly don't know if this is just the way it is, operator error, or both?
Am I the only one that has this happen to them?
 
I had this happen to me in my MK4 lol. When you are getting out of reverse gear the knob has to "pop" back up and fully out of reverse.

So you push down and left up to enter reverse, back out as normal. When leaving reverse, go fully into neutral by pulling the knob back, and letting it pop up into neutral. Then proceed to 1st.

What happens is that I was in reverse, and trying to go into first before letting the knob fully release from reverse.

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OaklandGTI, I have had the same experience, just as Robswagen described. If the shift lever doesn't go fully into neutral and fully pop back up, going for first can put you right back in reverse. Once I experienced that, though, I just made sure I pull fully out of reverse into neutral before I try to engage 1st gear and I haven't had that issue since. Hope that's all it is.


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This is actually the first manual shift that I've had where reverse is located to the left of 1st gear and the OP is pretty much my nightmare. It's been over a year for me and I've had no troubles or qualms- there's been times where I "feel like" I might've ham fisted it and put it into reverse or 1st when I meant the latter but I've always been right (it also helps at night when you have LP because the cornering lights come on). I have heard of people complaining about this getting mixed though- not sure if it's a driver issue or an actual car issue though. I pretty much do what Robswagen said though... kind of gently let it "pop" back into neutral (you can literally see the knob "pop upwards" from reverse) and then come to a complete stop before trying to re-engage 1st.
 
I pretty much do what Robswagen said though... kind of gently let it "pop" back into neutral (you can literally see the knob "pop upwards" from reverse) and then come to a complete stop before trying to re-engage 1st.
ALWAYS come to a complete stop before engaging 1st. You never want to use the clutch as a brake to stop the car before changing directions. Brakes are cheap compared to a clutch.

Mike
 
Clutch is Sometimes getting Stuck in Reverse

Sometimes, usually when parking for example, I throw my manual 2015 Golf S into reverse then it gets terribly stuck and I feel I'm forcing it to pop it out of reverse - feels like I'm going to break it. Anyone experience this?
 
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I'm thinking more and more that I have to bring in my GTI for them to do something about this. I have been at a complete stop, reversed into a spot in parallel parking situation, and have shifted back into first without pushing down at all, and Reverse is engaged. I've been driving manuals all my life too.

When I eventually have time, I am going to bring my car into the dealer as it seems to be getting worse.

I also have no confidence in 1st gear even from a dead stop at a red light. It's way too sensitive and can go into reverse without pushing down.
 
OP, maybe you're pushing down on it and getting on reverse. Don't push on it he lever because that basically locks you out from going into reverse. I have never had this problem with my GTI.

The only problem I've had that sometimes if I shift into reverse too fast, the rear view camera doesn't turn on. But IDC because if it was up to me I wouldn't have even gotten the camera :p
 
I had same issue

I would end up in reverse too easily when a light turned green and i tried to get it in 1st gear quickly. So, there was clearly a bit of a push down on my part but this never happened in all of my previous manuals so it was not all me.

I decided to improve shifting with a few of the cheap upgrades - cable ends, OEM short throw (north south), removing the diaphragm from the clutch bleeder, clutch pedal stop and the cable mounting bracket fittings. I have not had the problem since but of all of those upgrades the one I think helped the most was having to pull the slack out of the shifter cables when done. This seems to have stiffened the shifter feel and to make it more deliberate to push it down to go past the 1st to 2nd gate. If all you want is to not accidentally put it in R I suggest starting by finding the youtube video for talking the slack out of the shift cables.
 
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OP, maybe you're pushing down on it and getting on reverse. Don't push on it he lever because that basically locks you out from going into reverse. I have never had this problem with my GTI.

The only problem I've had that sometimes if I shift into reverse too fast, the rear view camera doesn't turn on. But IDC because if it was up to me I wouldn't have even gotten the camera :p
I'm honestly not pushing down at all. I've driven manual transmission all my life, and this is the first time I've had this issue.

I would end up in reverse too easily when a light turned green and i tried to get it in 1st gear quickly. So, there was clearly a bit of a push down on my part but this never happened in all of my previous manuals so it was not all me.

I decided to improve shifting with a few of the cheap upgrades - cable ends, OEM short throw (north south), removing the diaphragm from the clutch bleeder, clutch pedal stop and the cable mounting bracket fittings. I have not had the problem since but of all of those upgrades the one I think helped the most was having to pull the slack out of the shifter cables when done. This seems to have stiffened the shifter feel and to make it more deliberate to push it down to go past the 1st to 2nd gate. If all you want is to not accidentally put it in R I suggest starting by finding the youtube video for talking the slack out of the shift cables.
This is great advice. I'll check into this, or just take the car into the dealer and have them do it.
 
I have had that happen a few times. When you pull your stick out of reverse just give it a wiggle and that seems to take care of it<insert joke here>.
If you wiggle it more than three times you're playing with it. [emoji6]

Sorry, couldn't resist.


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I seem to have the opposite issue I've never had an issue with going into first but going into reverse sometimes is a pita...it usually takes me 2 tries to get in to reverse fully the camera always comes on with the first attempt but it doesn't engage all the way. Never noticed this on any car before had tons of mk3s and a mk5. Maybe I'm not pushing the lever down far enough to completely clear the lock out? I've gotten in the habit over the years of shifting into second before selecting reverse or first but even that doesn't seem to make a difference.
 
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