[WLSchroder-GTI]

So driving along today. Glow Plug Light Starts flashing and car is under reduced power. Call the dealer and they say ot bring it on. Keep driving and the car just completely dies. Wont start and just keeps turning over...

Thoughts?

 

[OttoSchultz]

You can start praying that it's a clogged fuel filter. Otherwise, failed HPFP? Failed lift and/or auxiliary fuel pump? Malfunction in the ECU?

Until it gets scanned for error codes, there's no way to know for sure.

 

[WLSchroder-GTI]

Confirmed: Metal contamination. Sounds like HPFP to me.... Wish me luck folks...

 

[dterry1982]

That Sucks......Hopefully it won't cost you an arm and/or leg.

 

[chittychittybangbang]

make sure to document everything. if worse comes to worse, insurance can take care of the problem.

 

[WLSchroder-GTI]

Just recieved the preliminary estimate: $10,260. Has been submitted ot VWofA Customer Care and should have an answer as to if its covered.

If its not, I will be contacting an attorney. Anybody know a good one in the Arizona area?

 

[OttoSchultz]

Arizona's a big state. Maybe talk to mechanics/owners of independent shops. They've probably given second opinions on dealership diagnoses and recommended lawyers when needed.

 

[WLSchroder-GTI]

Just recieved word that VWofA has authorized 100% warranty coverage on my car in part of teh fact that I am a multiple VW owner, I am the original owner of this car, I have had all of my service done at the same dealer on all my cars and that this particular one has been maintained in 100% compliance to the manual.

 

[Patrick Schmidt]

That's awesome news, glad to hear. However, owning multiple VWs, being the original owner, or having the car serviced at the same dealer should have absolutely zero bearing on whether the issue was covered under warranty.

 

[ehennebury]

Quote "However, owning multiple VWs, being the original owner, or having the car serviced at the same dealer should have absolutely zero bearing on whether the issue was covered under warranty." endQuote.

Perhaps it shouldn't have any bearing, but if your out of your original factory warranty, it absolutely does. I managed a service aisle before, and all of these things factor in the manufacturer's decision.

-Eric

 

[WLSchroder-GTI]

So the car is supposed to be ready today. I still have a big concern though. has anybody heard if VW has discovered true root casue of the problem? I have heard of others having multiple failures....

 

[aprmk5]

As a TDI newbie, can someone explain to me why this fuel pump costs $10k? Does this include a new engine and trans too? Sorry, I'm sure this a stupid question but I just don't see how this happens.

Is there any special maintenance that can be done to prevent it's failure??

 

[Tweak3D]

As a TDI newbie, can someone explain to me why this fuel pump costs $10k? Does this include a new engine and trans too? Sorry, I'm sure this a stupid question but I just don't see how this happens.

Is there any special maintenance that can be done to prevent it's failure??

Its so expensive because the entire fuel system is replaced as you cannot clean any metal fragments from the pump failure. So anything that is related to fuel is replaced.

 

[OttoSchultz]

The fuel pump isn't $10K. The pump is probably $1500, but when there's a catastrophic HPFP failure it sends shards of metal through the entire fuel system, so everything gets changed. A lot of the cost is labor.

 

[aprmk5]

Is there a way to increase the longevity of the pump? I read a post somewhere else about someone using addititives to the diesel fuel to help prolong the life. Not sure if that will help or not.

 

[vw tdi guy]

for the repair to cost that much on such a new car is ridiculous. It will keep me from ever owning one I can tell you that. I have seen this on several of the new cr tdis

 

[plus3golfer]

There's many threads on HPFP failures at tdiclub.com on 2009/10 TDIs. Read this thread to start.

 

[aprmk5]

great thread - THANKS!

I was actually at the VW dealer today and they claim to have not seen any 09 or 10 TDI's need the HPFP replaced yet...

 

[OttoSchultz]

great thread - THANKS!

I was actually at the VW dealer today and they claim to have not seen any 09 or 10 TDI's need the HPFP replaced yet...

The numbers are pretty low on HPFP failures, so I would expect that most dealers haven't dealt with one.

 

[WLSchroder-GTI]

In this case the dealer had seen HPFP due to gas in the tank or bad diesel. In my case, this was the first HPFP tat was not operator error.

Because this is such a catrosophic failure, I really think that VW needs to have their eyes on it...