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Summary of Overall Problem
The OEM 1.8t engine mounts are soft and great for applications running ~200 WHP and equivalent torque. However, when you start adding power to this platform the stock mounts will be destroyed, your shifts will screw up because of excessive engine movement, you may start putting stresses on your exhaust system, exhaust manifold, turbo flanges, etc that you would rather not do which can in turn break studs, bend bolts, and do other damage to your car.
Whatever power level you are running, your engine should not have excessive movement. Period. Excessive movement breaks things. Plus it makes your car make embarrassing clunking sounds, rattling sounds, and is just no good.
With that said, pick a mount that fits your application and will give you trouble free driving. People call Volkswagens fickle. That may be so, but they don't have to be. They just aren't forgiving of poor parts or build choices when you begin modifying them.

This is a picture of a motor mount from a 43k miles, stage2 car. It's broken and will make your car feel like crap. This is why you upgrade.




Summary of product Format:
Mfg
Product Name
Link to mfg product page
Product Number
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware
Picture
MSRP/ common price
Wholesale
Country of Origin
Warranty
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either
Repairable or Replacable
Replacement Cost
Repair Cost
Billett or Cast
Bushing Material
Recommended Max torque Use
Notes on Ride Comfort
Notes on Longevity
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount
Distributors
Installed pictures
Platform Compatibility

Engine Mounts - Mk4 Platform


034 Motorsports Density Line
Mfg: 034 Motorsports
Link to mfg product page
Product Number
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No

MSRP/ common price: $325 (dogbone + engine + trans), $255 (engine + trans)
Wholesale: $150 for engine + trans
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: 6 Month
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: ???
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Replacable
Replacement Cost: MSRP after warranty, Free during warranty
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: Cast
Bushing Material: 50 Durometer Rubber (Street)/ 80 Durometer Rubber (Track)
Recommended Max torque Use: ~260 ft*lbs peak torque (my opinion). If you go above this you will see them degrade very quickly into a pile of rubber mush garbage (multiple people's opinion)
Notes on Ride Comfort: Excellent ride comfort. Just a couple ticks below stock
Notes on Longevity: Very good if you are under the max torque spec (see above)
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Good if you are under the max torque spec (see above). The engine still has some movement, but for this power output that is generally acceptable. If you want near no movement or truly zero movement, another option would better suit you.
Misc Notes: ...
Forum Members With this mount and opinion if available: Kamahao112, groggory
Distributors: 034 Motorsports, INA Engineering
Installed pictures:

Platform compatibility: all MK4 1.8t and 2.0 cars


BFI Complete Replacement Engine Mount
Mfg: BFI
Product Name: Complete Replacement Engine Mount
Link to mfg product page (stg1)
Link to mfg product page (stg2)
Link to mfg product page (stg3)
Product Number: ??
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: Yes
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $179 (stg1), $189 (stg2), $320 (stg3) || Sale Price $169/ $179 / $299
Wholesale: ???
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: $85 (stg1), $95 (stg2), $??? (stg3)
Billett or Cast: Billett
Bushing Material: 65A Durometer Poly (stg1), 85A Durometer Poly (stg2), Delrin (stg3)
Recommended Max torque Use: No known limits
Notes on Ride Comfort: Stg1 and 2 will add vibration to the cabin. Stg3 is full race spec and will shake your teeth out.
Notes on Longevity: No known issues. I assume the bushings will wear over time, but as of now this is a new product still.
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Little to no movement for any of them. Stg3 is extreme and essentially zero movement.
Misc Notes: ...
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: BFI, USRT
Installed pictures:

Platform Compatibility: Mk4 4 cylinder vehicles (1.8T and 2.0) as well as all Mk5 4 cylinder (2.0T) vehicles, along with TT Mk1, Audi A3 2.0T and Passat 2.0T


Brewspeed Mk4 Race Mounts
Mfg: Brewspeed
Product Name: Mk4 Race Mounts
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: ...
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: Yes
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $499 (engine, trans, dogbone rebuild kit) || Sale $449
Wholesale: ...
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replaceable: Yes
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: ??? Ask Brewspeed???
Billett or Cast: Billett
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: No limits
Notes on Ride Comfort: Very harsh
Notes on Longevity: No known failures
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very good control, no forgiveness
Misc Notes: Excellent race mount
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: CTS Turbo
Installed pictures:

Platform Compatibility: Mk4 4 cylinder vehicles (1.8T and 2.0) as well as all Mk5 4 cylinder (2.0T) vehicles, along with TT Mk1, Audi A3 2.0T and Passat 2.0T

DLI-Teknik, Engine Mount, Left
Mfg: DLI-Teknik
Product Name: Engine Mount, Left
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: DLI-0111
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: Yes
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: 1850 SEK / $225 US
Wholesale: ???
Country of Origin: Sweden
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: Ask DLI Teknik
Billett or Cast: Billett
Bushing Material: Two different durometers of poly. + Neoprene + Spring
Recommended Max torque Use: No loads known
Notes on Ride Comfort: Similar to BFI stg1 mounts
Notes on Longevity: Not known
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very good. Not solid, but very little movement.
Misc Notes:
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: DLI-Teknik
Installed pictures:
Platform Compatibility:AEG, AEH, AGN, AGR, AGU, AHF, AJM, ALH, APG, APK, AQM, AQY, ARL, ARZ, ASV, ASZ, ATD, ATF, AUM, AUY, AWU, AZH, BEJ, BER, BEV, BHP, BKF
mk4


OEM
Mfg
Product Name
Link to mfg product page
Product Number
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware
Picture
MSRP/ common price
Wholesale
Country of Origin
Warranty
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either
Repairable or Replacable
Replacement Cost
Repair Cost
Billett or Cast
Bushing Material
Recommended Max torque Use
Notes on Ride Comfort
Notes on Longevity
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount
Distributors
Installed pictures
Platform Compatibility

Vibra Technics
Mfg: Vibra Technics
Product Name: MK4 1.8 top kit - Top Engine Mount kit
Link to mfg product page
Product Number
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware

MSRP/ common price: 361.70 (4-28-14)
Wholesale
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either
Repairable or Replacable
Replacement Cost
Repair Cost
Billet or Cast: Billet
Bushing Material: Rubber
Recommended Max torque Use: High
Notes on Ride Comfort: Medium
Notes on Longevity
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount
Distributors
Installed pictures
Platform Compatibility
VF engineering Passenger Side Engine Mount Assembly
Mfg: VF Engineering
Product Name: Passenger Side Engine Mount Assembly
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: ??
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: Yes
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $199.95
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: 12 months or 12,000 miles
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: ???
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: Ask VF Engineering
Billett or Cast: Billett
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: No known limit
Notes on Ride Comfort: Harsh
Notes on Longevity: Very long longevity. Poly will wear out eventually, but no known critical failures.
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very Good engine control
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount: Everyone loves the control, but you have to accept the vibrations as an aggressive mount
Distributors: ECS, among others
Installed pictures: ...
Platform Compatibility: Mk4 4 cylinder vehicles (1.8T and 2.0) as well as all Mk5 4 cylinder (2.0T) vehicles, along with TT Mk1, Audi A3 2.0T and Passat 2.0T

Engine Mounts - B5, B6 Platform

034 Motorsports Density Line
Mfg: 034 Motorsports
Link to mfg product page
Product Number
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No

MSRP/ common price: $95/ Mount (2 needed)
Wholesale: ????
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: 6 Month
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: ???
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Replacable
Replacement Cost: MSRP after warranty, Free during warranty
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: Cast
Bushing Material: 50 Durometer Rubber (Street)/ 80 Durometer Rubber (Track)
Recommended Max torque Use: ???
Notes on Ride Comfort: ???
Notes on Longevity: ???
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: ???
Misc Notes: ...
Forum Members With this mount: ...
Distributors: 034 Motorsports, INA Engineering
Installed pictures: ...
Platform compatibility: all B5 and B6 chassis 4 and 6-cylinder cars including Passat, A4/S4, A6 and many other applications

DLI Teknik Engine Mount, Left/Right
Mfg: DLI-Teknik
Product Name: Engine Mount, Left/Right
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: DLI-0131
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: Yes
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: (Requires 2) 1350 SEK / $163.49 per side
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: Sweden
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Yes
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: Ask DLI Teknik
Billett or Cast: Billett
Bushing Material: Two different durometers of poly. + Neoprene + Spring
Recommended Max torque Use: No limit known
Notes on Ride Comfort: Slightly stiffer than OEM. But good considering...
Notes on Longevity: No known long term problems. Poly will eventually wear out.
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very good engine control.
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: DLI-Teknik
Installed pictures
Platform Compatibility: 1Z, ADP, ADR, AEB, AFF, AFN, AFY, AHH, AHL, AHU, AJM, ALT, ALZ, ANB, APT, APU, ARG, ATJ, AVG, AWT
B5/B6 Platform

OEM+ (RS4 Engine Mount)
Mfg: VW
Product Name: RS4 Engine Mount
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: 8D0199379ADOEM
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $119.95/ per (2 required)
Wholesale: ???
Country of Origin: Germany
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: No
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: Cast
Bushing Material: Rubber
Recommended Max torque Use: ???
Notes on Ride Comfort: Slightly rougher than OEM
Notes on Longevity: OEM type longevity under OEM power levels. Not sure how long they last at 'chipped' levels or at 'BT' levels
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Better than stock, but still some movement.
Misc Notes: ...
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: ECS Tuning
Installed pictures:
Platform Compatibility: B5/ B6

Engine Mount - Universal
Good for filling in pretty much any OEM mount with new material. Note: If you don't clean the living bejesus out of the mount before you tape and pour this stuff in..it won't adhere. Which won't do you any good. So plan on cleaning it really well. If anyone has any suggestions on the best way to prep a mount to go in that'd be cool. I'd imagine any good degreaser would work. I'm thinking a first pass with some purple power and a stiff brush, then a second pass with some dish soap and water. Then dry it off nice.

OEM custom filled
Mfg: 3M
Product Name: 3M™ Auto Glass Urethane Windshield Adhesive, 08695
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: 08695
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $8/tube
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: N/A
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: OEM Upgrade
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: $8
Billett or Cast: N/A
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: ???
Notes on Ride Comfort: ???
Notes on Longevity:????
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: ????
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount: Velocity196
Distributors
Installed pictures
Platform Compatibility: All
 

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Transmission Mounts
There are a lot of vendors selling similar products for this so I'm going to summarize this section into build types. If anyone thinks this does not do the products justice just let me know.

OEM
* OEM/ VW
* OEM/ Lemforder : $84.95
* OEM/ Febi

OEM Clamshell + Non-OEM Rubber Insert
* 034 motorsports street/ track density

OEM Clamshell + Poly Insert
BFI stg1 : $134.99
** Also available as insert only : $85
BFI stg2 : $144.99
** Also available as insert only : $95
WRD Urethane Upper Transmission Mount Insert : $99.99

Billet + Dampening
* DLI
* VF
* Brewspeed

Detailed Descriptions

034 Motorsports Density Line
Mfg: 034 Motorsports
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: ???
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No

MSRP/ common price: $325 (dogbone + engine + trans), $255 (engine + trans)
Wholesale: $150 for engine + trans
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: 6 Month
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: ???
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Replacable
Replacement Cost: MSRP after warranty, Free during warranty
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: Cast
Bushing Material: 50 Durometer Rubber (Street)/ 80 Durometer Rubber (Track)
Recommended Max torque Use: ~260 ft*lbs peak torque (my opinion). If you go above this you will see them degrade very quickly into a pile of rubber mush garbage (multiple people's opinion)
Notes on Ride Comfort: Excellent ride comfort. Just a couple ticks below stock
Notes on Longevity: Very good if you are under the max torque spec (see above)
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Good if you are under the max torque spec (see above). The engine still has some movement, but for this power output that is generally acceptable. If you want near no movement or truly zero movement, another option would better suit you.
Misc Notes: ...
Forum Members With this mount and opinion if available: Kamahao112, groggory
Distributors: 034 Motorsports, INA Engineering
Installed pictures: ...
Platform compatibility: all MK4 1.8t and 2.0 cars


BFI Polyurethane Transmission Mount
Mfg: BFI
Product Name: Polyurethane Transmission Mount
Link to mfg product page (stg1)
Link to mfg product page (stg2)
Product Number:
stg1 : EBFIMK4ST1PATM
stg1 insert only : EBFISTG1T-4
stg2 : EBFIMK4ST2PATM
stg2 insert only : EBFISTG2MK4T
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
Picture: (Note: Stg1 is yellow, stg2 is green)



MSRP/ common price
Wholesale
Country of Origin
Warranty
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either
Repairable or Replacable
Replacement Cost
Repair Cost
Billett or Cast
Bushing Material
Recommended Max torque Use
Notes on Ride Comfort
Notes on Longevity
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount
Distributors
Installed pictures
Platform Compatibility

DLI-Teknik, Engine Mount, Right
Mfg: DLI-Teknik
Product Name: Engine Mount, Right
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: DLI-0113
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: Yes
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: 1850 SEK / $225 US
Wholesale: ???
Country of Origin: Sweden
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: Ask DLI Teknik
Billett or Cast: Billett
Bushing Material: Two different durometers of poly. + Neoprene + Spring
Recommended Max torque Use: No loads known
Notes on Ride Comfort: Similar to BFI stg1 mounts
Notes on Longevity: Not known
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very good. Not solid, but very little movement.
Misc Notes:
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: DLI-Teknik
Installed pictures:
Platform Compatibility:AEG, AEH, AGN, AGR, AGU, AHF, AJM, ALH, APG, APK, AQM, AQY, ARL, ARZ, ASV, ASZ, ATD, ATF, AUM, AUY, AWU, AZH, BEJ, BER, BEV, BHP, BKF
mk4

OEM
Mfg: VW, Lemforder, Febi
Product Name:Transmission Mount, Left (OEM)
Link to mfg product page (Lemforder)
Product Number:
VW
Lemforder 1J0199555AQ
Febi
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $84.95 (Lemforder)
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: Germany
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: OEM Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: No
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: OEM Cast
Bushing Material: Rubber
Recommended Max torque Use: 220 ft*lbs
Notes on Ride Comfort: OEM Smoooth
Notes on Longevity: 100k at OEM power levels. 60k at chipped levels. Don't try BT.
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Squishy OEM feel
Misc Notes:
Forum Members With this mount: LOTS
Distributors: MJM
Installed pictures:
Platform Compatibility:2004 Golf R32
2004-2006 Golf TDI (M/T)
2002-2006 Golf 1.8T (M/T)
2004-2005 Jetta TDI (M/T)
2002-2005 Jetta 1.8T (M/T)
2001-2005 Beetle 1.8T (M/T)
1999.5-4/2000 Jetta VR6 (A/T)
1999.5-4/2000 Jetta VR6 (M/T)

OEM custom filled
OEM custom filled
Mfg: 3M
Product Name: 3M™ Auto Glass Urethane Windshield Adhesive, 08695
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: 08695
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $8/tube
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: N/A
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: OEM Upgrade
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: $8
Billett or Cast: N/A
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: ???
Notes on Ride Comfort: ???
Notes on Longevity:????
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: ????
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount: Velocity196
Distributors
Installed pictures
Platform Compatibility: All

VF engineering Transmission Side Mount
Mfg: VF Engineering
Product Name: Transmission Side Mount
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: ??
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: Yes
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $200
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: Ask VF how much new bushings cost???
Billett or Cast: Billett
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: No limit known
Notes on Ride Comfort: Harsh, especially at idle. It is recommended to increase your idle to ~1000 RPM to reduce the extreme cabin chatter
Notes on Longevity: The bushings will wear out after extended use. But it is a very durable mount with no known catastrophic failures.
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very stiff, very controlled
Misc Notes: Most people who owns one are very happy with their purchase.
Forum Members With this mount: DMVDUB, ...
Distributors:
Installed pictures:
Platform Compatibility: For all VAG type 4 chassis: MK4 1999>up
All engines 8v/1.8T/VR6/V6/12v/24v/R32 Audi TT, A3, S3 (not DSG)


WRD Urethane Upper Transmission Mount Insert
Mfg: WRD
Product Name: Urethane Upper Transmission Mount Insert
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: ??
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $99.99
Wholesale: ?
Country of Origin: ??
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: OEM Upgrade
Repairable or Replacable: Replaceable
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: N/A
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: No known limits
Notes on Ride Comfort: ??
Notes on Longevity: Will eventually wear out
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Good
Misc Notes:
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: AP Tuning
Installed pictures:
Platform Compatibility: Mk4 platform
 

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Dogbone
There are a lot of vendors selling similar products for this so I'm going to summarize this section into build types. If anyone thinks this does not do the products justice just let me know.

Poly Inserts
* ECS Poly Joint Insert : $12.95
* ECS Poly Joint Insert + firewall inserts : $29.95
* BFI stg1 firewall insert : $25
* BFI stg2 firewall insert : $29
* Prothane firewall insert : $24.95
* WRD Urethane Lower Transmission Mount Insert : $29.95

OEM Rubber Insert @ Firweall + OEM Rubber @ transmission joint using OEM dogbone Casing
* OEM/ Febi : $48.20
* OEM/ VW : $83.94
* OEM/ URO : $31.95
* OEM/ MTC : $28.95

Rubber Insert @ Firewall + Non-OEM Rubber @ transmission joint using OEM dogbone casting
* 034 Motorsports Street/ Track : $72
* Custom Poly Filled

Poly Insert @ Firewall + OEM Rubber @ transmission joint (split type) using OEM dogbone casting
* BFI Stg1 : $70
** Available as insert for $25
* BFI Stg2 : $75
** Available as insert for $29

Poly Insert @ Firwall + Poly Insert @ transmission joint using OEM dogbone casting
* AP Tuning Stage 1 : $84.95

Poly Insert @ Firewall + Spherical Bearing @ transmission joint using OEM dogbone casting
* AP Tuning Stg 2 : $180

Poly Insert @ Firewall + Poly Insert @ Transmission Joint using Billet hardware
* VF Engineering Lower Pendulum Mount : $200

Detail of Each Mount

034 motorsports density Mount
Mfg
Product Name
Link to mfg product page
Product Number
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware
Picture
MSRP/ common price
Wholesale
Country of Origin
Warranty
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either
Repairable or Replacable
Replacement Cost
Repair Cost
Billett or Cast
Bushing Material
Recommended Max torque Use
Notes on Ride Comfort
Notes on Longevity
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control
Misc Notes
Forum Members With this mount
Distributors
Installed pictures
Platform Compatibility

AP Tuning Stage 1
Mfg: AP Tuning
Product Name: APTuning Lower Transmission Mount(Dog-bone), Stage 1
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: ??
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $84.95
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Replaceable
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: Cast
Bushing Material: Poly front and rear
Recommended Max torque Use: No limit known
Notes on Ride Comfort: Bit on the rough side
Notes on Longevity: ???
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very good control
Misc Notes:
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: AP Tuning
Installed pictures:
Platform Compatibility: All Mk4 platform

AP Tuning Stage 2
Mfg: AP Tuning
Product Name: APTuning Lower Transmission Mount(Dog-bone), Stage 2
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: ??
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
Picture:

MSRP/ common price: $180
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Replaceable
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: Cast
Bushing Material: Poly firewall bushing + Spherical Bearing at transmission
Recommended Max torque Use: No limit known
Notes on Ride Comfort: Bit on the rough side
Notes on Longevity: ???
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very good control
Misc Notes:
Forum Members With this mount:
Distributors: AP Tuning
Installed pictures:
Platform Compatibility: All Mk4 platform

MK4 BFI Stage1 (or stage 2) Preassembled Dogbone
Mfg: BFI
Product Name: MK4 BFI Stage1 Preassembled Dogbone (or stage 2)
Link to mfg product page (stg1)
Link to mfg product page (stg2)
Product Number: EBFIPDBST1 (stage 1)
EBFIMK4DBPAST2 (stage2)
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware
Picture:


MSRP/ common price
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement or OEM Upgrade
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: MSRP (for insert)
Billett or Cast: Cast
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: No known limit
Notes on Ride Comfort: Both are pretty good, but obviously the softer poly is cushier
Notes on Longevity: Expect 60k out of the bushings before deformation
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Good stiffness
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Custom Poly Filled
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ECS
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OEM
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Prothane, Lower Transmission Mounts, Dog Bone
Mfg: Prothane
Product Name: Lower Transmission Mounts, Dog Bone
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Product Number: ???
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
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MSRP/ common price: $24.95
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: ??
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: OEM Upgrade
Repairable or Replacable: Replaceable
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: Uses OEM Cast piece
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: No known limit
Notes on Ride Comfort: Definite added cabin vibration...but nothing too extreme
Notes on Longevity: Wears out around 60k...by personal observation
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Good engine stiffness. Honestly, the front bushing on the dogbone will wear out well before this will wear out. Filling that front bushing back in with the 3M poly stuff referenced elsewhere in this thread is the best repair for that.
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Forum Members With this mount: groggory
Distributors: MJM, AP Tuning
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Platform Compatibility: 2004 Golf R32
1998-2005 Beetle
2000-2006 Audi TT
1999.5-2005 Golf/Jetta

VF engineering Lower Transmission Mount
Mfg: VF Engineering
Product Name: VF Engineering Lower Transmission Mount
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: VFA02-01
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: Yes
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MSRP/ common price: $200
Wholesale: ???
Country of Origin: USA
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Repairable
Replacement Cost: N/A
Repair Cost: Ask VF how much their bushings cost
Billett or Cast: Billett
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: No known limit
Notes on Ride Comfort: Harsh
Notes on Longevity: Bushing will wear out occasionally
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Very good stiffness and control
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Distributors: AP Tuning, ECS, MJM, Direct
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Platform Compatibility: VAG Type 4 Chassis: Golf/Jetta 4, Beetle, Bora, Audi A3, and Audi TT

WRD Urethane Lower Transmission Mount Insert
Mfg: WRD
Product Name: WRD Urethane Lower Transmission Mount Insert
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: ??
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
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MSRP/ common price: $29.95
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: ??
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: OEM Upgrade
Repairable or Replacable: Replaceable
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: N/A
Bushing Material: Poly
Recommended Max torque Use: No known limit
Notes on Ride Comfort: Bit rough, but not too bad.
Notes on Longevity: Will eventually wear out
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Good stiffness, but you are still limited by the OEM rubber bushing at transmission
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Distributors: AP Tuning
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Platform Compatibility: All Mk4

Yarrowsport Lower Transmission Mount
Mfg: Yarrowsport
Product Name: Yarrowsport Lower Transmission Mount
Link to mfg product page
Product Number: YAR-006
Comes Complete with Mounting Hardware: No
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MSRP/ common price: $120
Wholesale: ??
Country of Origin: ??
Warranty: None
Warranty transferable to 2nd owner: N/A
OEM upgrade/ total replacement/ either: Total Replacement
Repairable or Replacable: Replaceable
Replacement Cost: MSRP
Repair Cost: N/A
Billett or Cast: N/A
Bushing Material: Solid (Spherical Bearing)
Recommended Max torque Use: No known limit
Notes on Ride Comfort: Bit rough, but not too bad.
Notes on Longevity: Will eventually wear out
Notes on Engine Stiffness/ Control: Good stiffness, but you are still limited by the OEM rubber bushing at transmission
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Platform Compatibility: All Mk4
 

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Velocity196
Custom filled OEM mounts
velocity196 said:
My mounts aren't to bad. I get some vibration but for the most part it's not bad enough for me to rip them out over the past 2 yrs or so. I've been told the dli mounts have lil to no vibration yet solid holding capabilities. This and this alone is why I want to get a set someday.
kamahao112
ECS Dogbone + 034 Street Density
comfort is just like stock seems to hold the engine ok
groggory
034 Street Density
Held up well to an APR stg3 kit. However, my new GT2871 @ 22 PSI killed all three mounts in short order.
j.owen
Brewspeed motor mounts, unknown dogbone
j.owen said:
I am currently running these in my beetle. They are very, very stiff. Make you feel like you are in a scene from Days of Thunder as your drive your car. With that said, they are a great product and I have had no issues with them whatsoever. I have my throttle body v-banded and there is little to no movement in the motor.
tirerub
VF Mounts + Prothane Insert dogbone
I went with vf
They vibrate some but it's not to bad really
They are really solid I notice almost no movement
And I have prothane dogbone inserts - cheap and effective
I went with the vf cause I like the looks and got them locally
DMVDUB
VF Mounts + ??? dogbone
-PRO's
I like the strength of the mounts.
They look pretty
Very stiff.
Well built
Easy to install

- Con's
Very stiff - Vibrate a TON (a little idle adjustment fixes that though.)
Believe they are a little bigger than OEM and other Aftermarket.

Overall
I love them. Drivability and wheel hop is non-existent now. Wouldn't trade them for anything.
Before I had them I snapped the pass' side mount twice and the second time it almost cut the timing belt.
BensBlackGTI
VF all around
VF all around here and I like'em...
I noticed the other day on the passenger side, the bottom bushing is bulging out but I've been thinkin about replacing the poly with metal
Sledge001
VF all around
Vf's all around here...

You do get used to the extra vibration. I did have had to replace the insert in my Dogbone 2X in about 3 years of hard driving but they do the job quite well.

SabbySC
VF engine + trans, ecs firewall poly insert
VF motor and trans mounts, ecs poly bushings in the dogbone. No wheel hop, mild vibration, but reduced with some break in time (or I got used to it).

No complaints, and great performance.
Screwball
VF all around
VFs here.

Blah blah, blahhh blah... They were cheap to buy used and work well. I've only run stock side mounts w/ a Turn2 insert prior to this with dogbone inserts so I don't have much to compare to. The only beef may be the vibration, but you pay to play so it's minimal on the annoying scale at best.
GDoggMoney
OEM trans+motor + AP stage2 dogbone w/ spherical bearing
I ran pass/driver VW mounts with a AP stage 2 dogbone w/spherical. Best combo yet.

I get the feeling my BFI stage 2 passenger and driver mount with the AP tuning spherical mount when not on backorder will be even better.

The BFI uses a stiffer poly for their "stage 2" and it has more surface area in the center.

I think the autoextreme folk are running a BFI stage 2 trans mount in oem casing still, the only stage 2 trans mount they make.
20thAEGti1009
VF mounts with billet bushings and a custom solid doggone mount here.
1.8t67
Brewspeed motor mounts + ??? dogbone
nah, brewspeed for me. brad custom built them for me (mine are the original prototype) and they do what they're designed to do. hold power. with the cams i run, at 900rpm, my hood vibrates 1/2". everything in my cabin is super tight, so there are no rattles, just alot of vibration. zero wheel hop.
yivek
BFI stg1 dogbone + BFI stg1 trans mount + OEM engine mount
BFI Stage 1 for my Dog Bone and Transmission Mount.

Still retains the stock-ish feel (except when the AC is on the steering wheel shakes real good then) but makes everything else feel way tighter than stock.

They are probably not stiff enough for big HP but makes the car feel a lot better with out making it uncomfortable for a DD.
 

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comp turbo 5558 20 psi for now

034 street density on for 250 miles so far on this set up and 3k with the apr 3+ on previous build

ecs dogbone

comfort is just like stock seems to hold the engine ok

mount compatibility .. um mk4 seat and skoda .... maybe more idk ..

price .. trade from a friend for some other work ..

billet??? .. yes BILLET TURBO :laugh:

only pic i have right now of the mounts


and finished engine bay
 

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I remember reading something about filling an OEM motor mount with a rubber stuff to fill in the gaps. What was that stuff? Can anyone chime in with something about it?
 

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I remember reading something about filling an OEM motor mount with a rubber stuff to fill in the gaps. What was that stuff? Can anyone chime in with something about it?
That's pretty much what I have. Taped up the sides and filled the mounts full of window epoxy until dry. Works pretty well. Pretty much zero movement by hand. I'm sure under load there is a lil movement but it's pretty tough stuff. Best part, it's sold at and hardware store for bout the cost of a burger meal :thumbup:
 

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How would you guys sum up that stuff in terms of vibration, comfort, etc? My guess is that it'd be very similar to something like a pure poly mount like VF, BFI, etc
 

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How would you guys sum up that stuff in terms of vibration, comfort, etc? My guess is that it'd be very similar to something like a pure poly mount like VF, BFI, etc
My mounts aren't to bad. I get some vibration but for the most part it's not bad enough for me to rip them out over the past 2 yrs or so. I've been told the dli mounts have lil to no vibration yet solid holding capabilities. This and this alone is why I want to get a set someday.
 

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The DLI mounts come in two flavors of Poly. I know there aren't many users of these mounts yet...but does anyone know anything about one stiffness of their poly vs. the other in terms of performance and of comfort?

Am I missing any motor mounts from the mk4 or b5/b6 platforms?

What motor mounts use people do when they swap a 1.8t into a mk1, mk2, mk3, schirroco or corrado?

I want to get the engine mount portion of this finished before I move on to transmission mounts and dog bone mounts
 

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ECS Round Dogbone Bushing



I have this in addition to BFI stage2 dog bone mounts.

-Stephen
Thanks, I am keeping to engine mounts for the time being. I will be getting to dogbones as soon as I'm satisfied with the engine mount portion of the thread.

The DLI mounts come in two flavors of Poly. I know there aren't many users of these mounts yet...but does anyone know anything about one stiffness of their poly vs. the other in terms of performance and of comfort?

Am I missing any motor mounts from the mk4 or b5/b6 platforms?

What motor mounts use people do when they swap a 1.8t into a mk1, mk2, mk3, schirroco or corrado?

I want to get the engine mount portion of this finished before I move on to transmission mounts and dog bone mounts
 

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Where is the poly in the DLI mounts? They looked to be based on springs instead of poly
From their webpage it sounds like their mount is a spring on the outside, with polyurethane and neoprene on the inside.

This makes far more sense than JUST a spring. A properly damped system is critical otherwise the engine will always be vibrating on the springs. Think of a car running 100% on springs....drives like crap right? But match the right shocks and struts and the car starts driving and handling nice. Same idea here. You gotta have a properly damped spring system.

DLI-Teknik said:
Our engine mounts are manufactured in steel, stainless steel and aluminum. We also use neopren and polyurethan, which are available in different hardness and are much more robust then original.
 
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