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Anybody have any information on doing installing a 1.8t turbo into a 2.0? I thought of the idea and figured it might be cheaper (assuming i get all the parts from a salvage yard) Hope you guys can help!!!
2.0T from a 1.8T
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (MK320LGolf)
you might be better of posting this question in the FI forum. similar questions have been asked before...try using the search feature, keyword = Junkyard + Turbo + Deisel + TD + TDi....
I am also currently in the process of a 2.0t project, check out the links in my sig.
Good Luck
Craig
you might be better of posting this question in the FI forum. similar questions have been asked before...try using the search feature, keyword = Junkyard + Turbo + Deisel + TD + TDi....
I am also currently in the process of a 2.0t project, check out the links in my sig.
Good Luck
Craig
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (evolveVW)
The KO3/TD T3 40 Trim/TD K24 Turbos will fit onto a TD Manifold without any modifications. The only time mods are need is when someone is fitting a K03 with a TD Manfold to the 1.8L 8V (short block) but on the 2.0L 8v (tall block) there will be no problems. The K03 flange will not match up to an ATP manifold. So I guess what I am trying to say is...if you are going to use any turbos off of a VW, you will have to use a VW Manifold. A Saab or Volvo turbo will fit up to an ATP Manifold, and you get a much larger turbo out of the deal. The only problem with going too a much larger turbo is that the fuel system will have to be changed. If you want to keep your stock fuel system (with a FMU = fuel management unit = $150) I think that the K03 turbo would be excellent. The K03 will spool up quickly but top out around 5000rpm. Expect to see 145-155whp if you also use the 1.8T intercooler. With the stock Fuel system and an i/c running at about 60% efficency you could run a max 8psi.
The KO3/TD T3 40 Trim/TD K24 Turbos will fit onto a TD Manifold without any modifications. The only time mods are need is when someone is fitting a K03 with a TD Manfold to the 1.8L 8V (short block) but on the 2.0L 8v (tall block) there will be no problems. The K03 flange will not match up to an ATP manifold. So I guess what I am trying to say is...if you are going to use any turbos off of a VW, you will have to use a VW Manifold. A Saab or Volvo turbo will fit up to an ATP Manifold, and you get a much larger turbo out of the deal. The only problem with going too a much larger turbo is that the fuel system will have to be changed. If you want to keep your stock fuel system (with a FMU = fuel management unit = $150) I think that the K03 turbo would be excellent. The K03 will spool up quickly but top out around 5000rpm. Expect to see 145-155whp if you also use the 1.8T intercooler. With the stock Fuel system and an i/c running at about 60% efficency you could run a max 8psi.
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (HappyVdubber2)
wait wait wait, are you saying i could use a stock VW turbo, and a TD(turbodiesel) manifold, and it'd work on my 8v 2.0????? i'm very interested in this
wait wait wait, are you saying i could use a stock VW turbo, and a TD(turbodiesel) manifold, and it'd work on my 8v 2.0????? i'm very interested in this
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (timmybgood)
yes. that is exactly what I am saying. Check out the links below to see my project. Installation is schedualed for spring 2002. I am currently in the process of obtaining the parts need (got all the big stuff)
When you're at the gti pages, click on techtips then turbo project
yes. that is exactly what I am saying. Check out the links below to see my project. Installation is schedualed for spring 2002. I am currently in the process of obtaining the parts need (got all the big stuff)
When you're at the gti pages, click on techtips then turbo project
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (HappyVdubber2)
Oh sweet turbo...
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I had no idea that this could be done!!! Keep us all updated...
Oh sweet turbo...
I had no idea that this could be done!!! Keep us all updated...
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (Red Baron Golf)
remind everyone what the actual benefits are about using a TD manifold, and a vw turbo......
you can get t3 turbos at junkyards too, and buy an atp manifold for 275.
t3 turbos are a dime a dozen, what about the vw turbos?
remind everyone what the actual benefits are about using a TD manifold, and a vw turbo......
you can get t3 turbos at junkyards too, and buy an atp manifold for 275.
t3 turbos are a dime a dozen, what about the vw turbos?
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (speed51133)
well there is definetly more cars with a t3's than there are avalible VW TD in the junkyards. I agree.
p.s. that $275 ATP manifold is like 275x1.46+shipping+duty+gst = $500+ cdn. Certainly does make a $50cdn TD Manifold look alot nicer!
edit: If I realy wanted to use a larger turbo, I would use a modified Audi 5000 Manifold (cut the fifth runner off and the weld a cover plate) which will also bolt uo to the 2L Tallbock, then use the a K26 turbocharger.
[Modified by HappyVdubber2, 4:24 PM 2-13-2002]
well there is definetly more cars with a t3's than there are avalible VW TD in the junkyards. I agree.
p.s. that $275 ATP manifold is like 275x1.46+shipping+duty+gst = $500+ cdn. Certainly does make a $50cdn TD Manifold look alot nicer!
edit: If I realy wanted to use a larger turbo, I would use a modified Audi 5000 Manifold (cut the fifth runner off and the weld a cover plate) which will also bolt uo to the 2L Tallbock, then use the a K26 turbocharger.
[Modified by HappyVdubber2, 4:24 PM 2-13-2002]
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (speed51133)
- Quick spool up
- low end performance
- inexpensive costs
Cons
- Runs outta breath early (compared to the larger T3)
- Limits the maximum boost to a realistic 8psi
- Integral Wastegate prone to boost leak and spikeing
- The fact that you are buying somone elses used parts, which means that there is a possibility you could end up with a turbo that needs to be rebuilt. I which case you might aswell purchase a new t3 in the first place because it does cost some money.
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[Modified by HappyVdubber2, 4:33 PM 2-13-2002]
quote:[HR][/HR]remind everyone what the actual benefits are about using a TD manifold, and a vw turbo......[HR][/HR]
Pros- Quick spool up
- low end performance
- inexpensive costs
Cons
- Runs outta breath early (compared to the larger T3)
- Limits the maximum boost to a realistic 8psi
- Integral Wastegate prone to boost leak and spikeing
- The fact that you are buying somone elses used parts, which means that there is a possibility you could end up with a turbo that needs to be rebuilt. I which case you might aswell purchase a new t3 in the first place because it does cost some money.
[Modified by HappyVdubber2, 4:33 PM 2-13-2002]
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (HappyVdubber2)
this is excellent info i appreciate, what types of cars would have a t3(or other compatible turbo) in a junkyard?
this is excellent info i appreciate, what types of cars would have a t3(or other compatible turbo) in a junkyard?
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (timmybgood)
Volvo, Saab, Merkur, would be the cars I would be looking for. There is also some Dodge Daytona's and Ford T-Birds that used a T3.
Good Luck
Craig
Volvo, Saab, Merkur, would be the cars I would be looking for. There is also some Dodge Daytona's and Ford T-Birds that used a T3.
Good Luck
Craig
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (HappyVdubber2)
thanks, i checked out your page, good luck with your turbo'in, post when you get it under way
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thanks, i checked out your page, good luck with your turbo'in, post when you get it under way
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (HappyVdubber2)
So then i could get a TD manifold and bolt up a K04 turbo to it right?
So then i could get a TD manifold and bolt up a K04 turbo to it right?
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Re: 2.0T from a 1.8T (SCHALTHEBELKNAUF)
In all honesty, I really know very little regarding the k04 turbocharger. But logic would say yes.
When people upgrade there k03 turbos to a k04, I don't believe they change their manifolds? Meaning the k03 and k04 must have the same flange. Since I am certain that the k03 turbo fits up to the TD Manifold, then I would have to assume that yes, the k04 would also fit on the TD Manifold.
Now my question for you would be...Is it a good idea to put a turbocharger capable of such high boost, onto a manifold which was originaly intended for a k24 (tiny). I think that if the K04 does match up to the TD Manifold, the manifolds days would be numbered. Just my .02...Again I really don't know much about the K04.
In all honesty, I really know very little regarding the k04 turbocharger. But logic would say yes.
When people upgrade there k03 turbos to a k04, I don't believe they change their manifolds? Meaning the k03 and k04 must have the same flange. Since I am certain that the k03 turbo fits up to the TD Manifold, then I would have to assume that yes, the k04 would also fit on the TD Manifold.
Now my question for you would be...Is it a good idea to put a turbocharger capable of such high boost, onto a manifold which was originaly intended for a k24 (tiny). I think that if the K04 does match up to the TD Manifold, the manifolds days would be numbered. Just my .02...Again I really don't know much about the K04.
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