Re: 20v = 5v/cylinder, then why can't... (hoser125)
quote:[HR][/HR]The benifit of the turbo over the SC, is the fact that smaller Cubic Centimeter engines can rev higher, a super charger can only spin a a pre determined speed (pulley size) therefore it quits working at a certain RPM.
SC's are for low end right off the line power, not for top speed. a turbo if tuned right will keep putting out until the motor just can't turn any faster.[HR][/HR]
Umm... ok, a few points of clarification here. Well, more like, uh, nevermind. How about I explain a supercharger because you're not even in the ballpark here. Superchargers can be used on engines of any displacement. You'll see them on 1.6 liter Hondas as well as 5.7 liter Camaros and 12-liter Alcohol dragsters. Second, it's belt driven by the crankshaft, and thus spins faster as the engine spins faster. With a roots style (Eaton) supercharger, this means it will make a constant amount of boost across pretty much the entire powerband. If it's designed for 6psi, it will make 6psi of boost everywhere from 2000 - 2500rpm or so up to whatever the engine revs to. If it's a centrifugal supercharger (Vortec) then it's like the compressor housing of a turbo. That style of blower actually makes MORE boost as engine speed increases. The higher you rev the more boost you make. The true advantage of a supercharger is the fact it's always spinning when the engine is spinning, and thus has virtually zero lag before making full boost. Neither roots nor centrifugal blowers "stop working" at any RPM.
Because superchargers are driven off the crankshaft, the bigger the supercharger is, or the more aggressively you gear the pullies to increase blower RPM, the more drag you get on the crankshaft. It's like having your A/C on - it saps away power. The bigger the blower, the greater the loss. Also, many supercharged cars are non-intercooled, thus limiting their boost to 6 or 8psi in order to prevent detonation. There is nothing to say that superchargers are exclusively for getting more low end torque. In fact, I'm sure there's a few supercharged VR6 owners on this board that will quite happily demonstrate that they have tons of high end horsepower too.
A turbo on the other hand is just a big pair of fans. One which is driven by exhaust gasses, one which pressurizes intake gasses. Because it is not driven by the crankshaft and uses the "free" horsepower from the exhuast, there is very little loss involved with a turbo. It will decrease power very slightly because it presents a big restriction to the exhaust, but it's much less than the loss a supercharger causes. Turbos do, however have specific limits. This is most clearly seen with the stock turbo on the 1.8T. If turbos really did have infinite flow to infinite RPM as you said, then we should see them making peak horsepower at 7000+ rpm. However, most chipped cars make peak power as early as 5000 or 5500rpm. This is because the turbo just plain runs out of the ability to flow any more air than that. In order to flow more air, you need a bigger turbo. Bigger turbos TAKE more flow (exhaust, based on RPM) in order to make more flow, so it's a give and take between how quickly you want to make boost versus how much peak power you want to make.