[G60ING]

My friend’s 2011 3.6 CC suffered some severe issues due to screen being pushed through and into the cam phasers. One phaser was locked up. Talk about EXPENSIVE. I probably would have just bought a low mile motor it was so so expensive to replace them. 125k miles

He only had one code: 000020 - Bank 1: Camshaft B (Exhaust)
P0014 - 004 - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced) - MIL ON

Guides were worn pretty good. Upper chain was stretched to the point of having slack when motor was at TDC.

The carbon buildup wasn’t bad at 125k miles:

 

[need_a_VR6]

Any interest in taking the phaser apart to see if it could be repaired? I know the intake and old exhaust ones come apart pretty easily.

 

[MN-VDUBCLUB]

Yeah oil changes is why these chains & guides fail.. I haven’t heard about the chains stretching tho. That’s real abuse done to that motor!


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[G60ING]

Any interest in taking the phaser apart to see if it could be repaired? I know the intake and old exhaust ones come apart pretty easily.

He is in Colorado. I’ll ping him and see.

The screen has been a known potential issue.

 

[need_a_VR6]

I have seen them clog and frag but that one looks pretty good.

 

[TheBurninator]

Any interest in taking the phaser apart to see if it could be repaired? I know the intake and old exhaust ones come apart pretty easily.

Oh yeah. Always down to see what failed and confirm it.

Yeah oil changes is why these chains & guides fail.. I haven’t heard about the chains stretching tho. That’s real abuse done to that motor!


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Oil changes done every 5k pretty religiously. I drive the car hard, I maintain it appropriately.

You’ve clearly never worked on many VRs. Chain stretch has always been an issue. For the mileage and how hard the car is driven I’d say the guide wear is pretty normal.

Head was clean inside as I expected. No other signs of wear or slowing down.

Don’t you have some FSI fueling to 750hp to figure out?

I have seen them clog and frag but that one looks pretty good.

Definitely a good sized hole in that filter. As I’m sure you were thinking when I sent you the message on FB.

Confirmed screen bits in the exhaust adjuster. Intake cam adjuster didn’t show any abnormal wear at all.

Now onto the fun pics

Scoring can be seen on the internal wheel. Just the one lobe of it though.

Other lobes looked like this:

Outer ring:

And of course my helper...

 

[need_a_VR6]

Just enough crap to get it jammed

 

[MN-VDUBCLUB]

Oh yeah. Always down to see what failed and confirm it.



Oil changes done every 5k pretty religiously. I drive the car hard, I maintain it appropriately.

You’ve clearly never worked on many VRs. Chain stretch has always been an issue. For the mileage and how hard the car is driven I’d say the guide wear is pretty normal.

Head was clean inside as I expected. No other signs of wear or slowing down.

Don’t you have some FSI fueling to 750hp to figure out?



Definitely a good sized hole in that filter. As I’m sure you were thinking when I sent you the message on FB.

Confirmed screen bits in the exhaust adjuster. Intake cam adjuster didn’t show any abnormal wear at all.

Now onto the fun pics

Scoring can be seen on the internal wheel. Just the one lobe of it though.

Other lobes looked like this:

Outer ring:

And of course my helper...

Lol first off. There are 10 turbo’d 3.6’s out there making well over 650. all in golfs, 1 CC, and 2 skoda’s. Just remember how much of my paynis was in your mouth when my cc has a big ol precision joint!


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[TheBurninator]

Lol first off. There are 10 turbo’d 3.6’s out there making well over 650. all in golfs, 1 CC, and 2 skoda’s. Just remember how much of my paynis was in your mouth when my cc has a big ol precision joint!


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Yawn. I have a big ole precision on my golf too. You aren’t special here, so stop acting like it.

The CC isn’t making over 650. Look at his thread again. Look where the fueling runs out.

The HGP cars all run port injection. So there’s your 650.

Lot of money for something a 12v can do without much effort.

You can zip stubby back up now.

Back to the topic at hand....

 

[MN-VDUBCLUB]

Yawn. I have a big ole precision on my golf too. You aren’t special here, so stop acting like it.

The CC isn’t making over 650. Look at his thread again. Look where the fueling runs out.

The HGP cars all run port injection. So there’s your 650.

Lot of money for something a 12v can do without much effort.

You can zip stubby back up now.

Lol somebody had a 32 ounce bottle of haterade. My CC will have 650 lol our pockets are different mine are deeper.


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[TheBurninator]

Lol somebody had a 32 ounce bottle of haterade. My CC will have 650 lol our pockets are different mine are deeper.


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Lol keep telling yourself that.

 

[G60ING]

Keep it on topic, topic is about 3.6 timing, not turbos installs. Don’t derail the topic.

 

[maldacenah]

Passat CC 3.6 2010 BWS Engine doubts about chain

Hi, first so sorry for my bad english.

I ve purchase 3 month ago the car, when start cold exaust make noise like no mufflers for 1 minute about, then ive Heard noise like loose chain. Check block 208 with vcds and result -3 degree. My mechanic change valve cover gasket because a little oil leakings and we saw you can see in video link. My question is could the hidraulic tensioner bad. After run 15 minutes all noise dessapear.

Videois in spanish)

https://youtu.be/T_2sXKSb8eY

Any help is apreciaeted (I live in Argentina) And Im in a wheelchair for ever, I need to have prevent any big issue because is my transport...

Thanks in advance

 

[nater]

There is nothing out of the ordinary with the chain as it appears in the video.
It’s tight, and those phasers will do what they do there.
A recording of the noise would help more.

 

[G60ING]

I agree with Nater, my chain setup in the video is normal when assembling.

Extra engine noise when cold starting a minute or two is normal but a video to better understand would helpful.

 

[maldacenah]

Noise New Video

Thanks to help me, yesterday with my friend and mechanic unscrew the chain tensioner, it shows wear points, brillant parts like
as friction in cilinder and piston, because we crush it several times and it is disassembled showing the inner part of the cylinder.

I hope you could understand my english...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE9E17S9_PE

 

[nater]

Sounds normal to me.


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[G60ING]

What is block 209 reading?

I’ve heard the cams should NOT be 2* different

 

[G60ING]

What is block 209 reading?

I’ve heard the cams should NOT be 2* different

 

[Dwalker4293]

Has anyone had a hpfp lock up and take out the timing chain?