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Discussion Starter · #61 ·
Good news about it underpinning a new plug-in hybrid! It's nice to have more technical info about this new FCV, too!

via Automobile
TOCHIGI, Japan – The new platform for Honda’s third-generation fuel cell sedan making its debut Wednesday at the Tokyo Motor Show also will underpin a new plug-in hybrid that comes to market due shortly after the fuel-cell’s spring 2016 launch. The new platform, which is roughly the size of the Honda Accord, though sharing no significant components with it, looks to take on the Toyota Prius strategy of marketing a family of green-car models, with distinct, if overwrought styling. Honda also will introduce a new conventional Accord hybrid just ahead of the fuel cell and plug-in models early next year.

Honda says it expects significant sales volume increases for all these green car models. Its third-generation fuel cell sedan gets a 30 percent increase in power, to 130 kilowatts, with a 700-kilometer (435 mile) range from a new fuel cell stack and motor that takes up about the same space as a V-6 engine, all under the car’s hood. The flat lithium-ion battery pack fits between the unibody frame rails under the front seats, while the main hydrogen tank fits behind the rear bulkhead, with a smaller supplementary tank under the bottom cushion of the rear bench seat. Honda has not revealed the tank capacity, though the main tank leaves decent, usable trunk space, and the interior is as roomy for five adults as a conventional midsize sedan. The automaker will officially release the name of the model at its press conference at the Tokyo Motor Show on Wednesday.

The compactness of the electric-drive motor and fuel cell stack is made possible by a 50 percent increase in power density and a reduction in the number of fuel cells by nearly one-third. There is cooling for every two cells, and each cell’s thickness has been reduced by 20 percent. The power control unit (PCU) has been moved from on top of the motor to in front of it, and the height of both the PCU and motor are reduced by 34 percent, compared with the second-generation Honda fuel cell car.

Suspension is MacPherson strut front, with a multi-link rear. Honda says a new, hollow aluminum die-cast subframe is 6 percent lighter than the competition (the Toyota Mirai). Honda offered very short (1-kilometer) drives of both the new fuel cell sedan and a mule of the plug-in hybrid using the current Accord sedan’s body. The fuel cell car is quick, quiet and smooth, though it’s not electric car-quick when launching from a standing start. The plug-in hybrid feels a bit quicker, with seamless transitions between electric and hybrid electric/internal combustion power.

Honda is also offering a modular Smart Hydrogen Station to encourage growth in fuel cell refueling infrastructure, and introduced the Power Exporter 9000, a high-output external power supply machine that can use electricity provided by the fuel cell car to power a home or public facility in case of an emergency outage. Honda and General Motors have entered into a joint-venture project to expand the hydrogen refueling station infrastructure beginning in 2020.

That’s also the year Honda plans to introduce new semi-automated driving features in some models, probably beginning with Acuras in the North American market. Honda demonstrated a Traffic Jam Assist feature using radar and camera, and Target Line Tracing, the latter of which determines the efficient “target line” between two points while staying within a lane. The Target Line Tracing System adjusts the car’s line when it deviates from the target, which means the semi-automated system can adjust for wet or snowy pavement that may cause the tires to slip.

1991 Mercedes-Benz 300SL
32,229 Posts
Discussion Starter · #63 · (Edited)

via Autocar
What is it?:
This is the new Honda FCV, the latest attempt by the Japanese manufacturer to gain the high ground on hydrogen fuel cell vehicles - and one that’s under more pressure than ever before, thanks to the recent arrival of the Toyota Mirai.

Indeed, whereas Honda’s previous fuel cell vehicles have been praised for their technical innovation, they’ve also been available to only a select few. The firm made just 72 examples of the last effort, the FCX Clarity - but it has much higher hopes for the FCV, which will be made in “much greater numbers” and is seen as a stepping stone to Honda’s first mass-produced fuel cell vehicle, currently in development (some of it shared with General Motors) and due in 2020.

As with the Clarity, the FCV sits on a bespoke platform, but it gets two hydrogen tanks instead of one, with both storing the fuel at a higher pressure (700bar instead of 350). This is designed, Honda engineers say, to answer the single biggest concern that’s come across in feedback from Clarity owners: range. That car managed 240 miles in the US test cycle; Honda says the FCV can crack 300 on the same standard, and it should be north of 400 in many real-world situations.

At the heart of it all is a new fuel cell stack, a third smaller than before and, astonishingly, 90% cheaper to produce. The more compact package has allowed Honda to move it away from the transmission tunnel area, to under the bonnet. That frees up cabin space, allowing the FCV to be a five-seater.

What's it like?:
As with most fuel cell vehicles, the FCV is remarkably straightforward to use. You select Drive, then ease away in near-silence. The only noise you’re likely to hear - should you not be doing a sufficient rate of knots to create tyre roar - is what sounds like a faint gurgling from under the bonnet.

But in the most part, there’s no real mechanical noise to speak of; think of it as an EV that doesn’t need plugging in, or a Toyota Prius-like hybrid where the combustion engine simply never fires up.

Our test route was a short loop at Honda’s Tochigi R&D centre, and Honda has yet to issue any official performance figures anyway, but it’s already clear that the FCV is set up for cruising comfort instead of out-and-out performance or agility.

The cell has a nominal output of 134bhp, which is enough for brisk acceleration, even up to a motorway cruising speed. Once you’re there, you’ll just hear some wind noise from around the door mirrors, and the aforementioned rumble from the road below. It’s just like a reasonably refined executive saloon, basically - although again, we had no opportunity to throw it at anything approaching a sharp corner.

Honda is planning a series of accessories for the car, including a small hydrogen production station designed for use by a few vehicles and a neat inverter that can take electricity produced by the fuel cell and power a range of domestic devices. Honda suggests it could have uses in emergency medical situations, for example.

Honda has had to strike a balance between giving the FCV’s cabin a high-tech look and making it something that could be used every day - and the result looks a fair compromise. There’s a central infotainment screen in the centre of a neat dashboard, and the centre console extends out towards the area between the front seats, with gear selector buttons above and a storage area below. The rear cabin still isn’t the most spacious for a car of this size, but three adults could just about squeeze in together for a reasonable journey.

Honda hasn’t issued any specs on boot capacity, but there’s no denying that some space is taken up by the main aluminium and carbonfibre-wrapped hydrogen tank. Engineers say you can fit three sets of golf clubs in there - and that’s probably true. But sliding a wider, flatter suitcase over the top of the step in the boot floor could prove more of a challenge.

Should I buy one?:
For just a moment, let’s merely celebrate the fact that you can. Honda is not going to hide the FCV behind the same veil of rarity that obscured the FCX Clarity for much of its life; this really is a step towards the mass production of fuel cell cars, and the company knows it has to prove that its technology is every bit as worthy of general public use as a Mirai or Hyundai’s ix35.

Pricing could be another matter, of course - even the huge saving on the cost of the fuel cell stack over the Clarity’s is “nowhere near enough”, according to a senior engineer - and that’s before you get to deciding whether the fledgling infrastructure is enough to support any journey you may want to tackle.

These remain early days for fuel cell vehicles - but with the Mirai and now this FCV, it really does seem like a generational leap is being made.
via Top Gear
You wait a century for a bespoke fuel-cell car, and then two come along (almost) at once. Just as the Toyota Mirai goes on sale, Honda reveals its answer.

The FCV (a provisional name apparently) is on show at the Tokyo Motor Show. It doesn’t go on sale until late next year, but we’ve had a very brief drive, and the signs are good.

It is Honda’s second bespoke fuel-cell car. The first, the FCX Clarity, was a great thing but never properly went on sale; only 72 were built in all. That’s scarcer than a McLaren F1. This time around, the plan is to build up to 1200 a year.

It might be later than the Toyota, but we can see advantages. It’s faster, for a start, making 176bhp compared with the Mirai’s 152. The two both weigh something over 1800kg.

Also, the Honda’s interior is nicer to our eyes: lots of suede and open-pore wood give it a bit of a swanky modern-hotel feel. It’s also roomier, because Honda managed to squeeze the fuel cell itself above the electric motor under the bonnet. This frees up back-seat leg room.

And, let’s face it, the Honda also swerves the room-sized elephant that is the Toyota’s exterior styling (though to be fair, on exposure the Toyota is growing on us).

Fill the FCV’s tanks with 5kg of 700 bar hydrogen and you’ve got a potential 300 mile range by the fairly stringent US drive cycle. Apparently, people who ran the Clarity all wanted more range, which was lacking because it ran lower pressure.

Like other fuel-cell cars, the FCV has a buffer hybrid battery to store spare electricity for later acceleration-boosting. The fuel cell itself has a peak of 100kW while the motor can use more.

The new FCV has a bespoke platform. But the fact the stack goes under the bonnet means there’s the possibility for using the fuel-cell system as a replacement for an engine in other body styles, says Honda. Doubtless the all-conquering crossover is in line for the FC treatment, then.

To build bigger numbers, Honda engineers say they’ve managed to make the fuel cell itself for about one-10th the cost of the Clarity’s. Unfortunately the carbonfibre-cased hydrogen tanks are still punishingly expensive.

For that reason, Honda is collaborating with GM on a project to do a cheaper next-generation tank and fuel cell system. The idea is to get something production-ready for 2020, though the two companies will design independent vehicles around these common parts.
via Autoblog
Honda FCEV: A Short First Crack At Honda's "Ultimate" Vehicle

Sure, I got to take a lap in the NSX, but the FCEV was my highlight of the event. This was the first time Honda has let outsiders test drive the upcoming fuel cell vehicle, which the company calls the "ultimate clean performance" vehicle and which is due in the US in next year after a launch in Japan in the spring of 2016. The bad news is that the entire length of the test drive was a measly kilometer, totally straight, with one U-turn at the half-way point. So, even though I went through the course three times (two more than originally scheduled), I can't really say I know how the car drives. What I can tell you is that there are two drive modes, normal and sport, with the main difference being that sport offers stronger regenerative braking and a bit quicker acceleration response. The higher regen level does not allow for one-foot driving, sadly. There's a blue orb that glows in the digital dashboard to indicate the power output of the fuel cell stack (not the motor), so even though the car is fairly quiet as you drive, there's some minimal level of connection between the driver and the "engine." Creature comforts include Honda's excellent LaneWatch and a glossy touch screen for the infotainment system.

When it first unveiled the FCEV Concept in 2013, Honda announced that the size of the new fuel cell stack (it's 33-percent smaller than the stack from the FCX Clarity, introduced in 2008) made it small enough to fit it into the space under the hood. This packaging means that the FCEV's lithium-ion battery can fit under the floorboard and the two hydrogen tanks can be located by the rear passengers' feet and the under the rear seat, protruding into the trunk area. There is ample room for five people in the FCEV. Together, the two H2 tanks hold just under five kilograms of hydrogen, which should be enough to go 700 kilometers (435 miles) on the Japanese scale and over 300 miles using the EPA's test procedures. You can learn more about Honda's technological advances for the new Honda FCEV here.

Upcoming Plug-In Hybrid: A Gas-Electric Sibling For The FCEV

We're slowly getting bits and pieces of Honda's new PHEV. One important piece of news from Utsunomiya was that, as suspected, this car and the FCEV will have more in common than a green mindset. While no one could confirm that the two cars will have the same body style, Honda engineers would say that they will share a chassis. The fact that the platform is the same in both vehicles (and, potentially, the upcoming all-electric vehicle, but any talk of that was firmly locked down) means that Honda is looking to maximize cost savings with it alternative-power lineup. This could bode exciting things about the mass-production future of these three green siblings.

Whatever it ends up looking like, the most important bit of news about the new PHEV for customers is that the engineers are targeting a three-fold increase in the car's all-electric range (compared to the Accord PHEV's 13 miles). This means an EV range of over 40 miles when the PHEV arrives in 2017. A range of 40 miles was chosen because it will allow a large number of people to drive in all-electric mode most of the time. The car will also be able to drive in all-electric mode at higher speeds (the Accord PHEV tops out at 80 miles per hour in EV mode). We got to drive the new powertrain in an current-gen Accord mule - on the same one-kilometer loop as the FCEV - and learned that, at this point so far out from the release, the engine revs loudly when you call for quick acceleration. Other than that, we await further test drives to pass even the earliest of verdicts.

Wakashiro Teruo was my Honda representative during my drive, and he said that pretty much the only things that are the same between the powertrains in the Accord PHEV and the upcoming plug-in hybrid are the two-motor configuration and the clutch. Everything else will be improved. The battery chemistry is a bit different, and the lithium-ion battery itself is obviously larger. The motors are more efficient and powerful. The software has been updated. And, of course, it will use the new FCEV chassis. Through a translator, he said that when it comes to green vehicles, "you have to change the spec depending on the country and the infrastructure. We have chosen this chassis which can be most flexible to accommodate any situation. If we make a different chassis, we end up having a lot of costs." It would make sense, then, to build the EV on this chassis, too, right, I asked. "Technically, that's possible, but we cannot mention the next model," he said and laughed.


1991 Mercedes-Benz 300SL
32,229 Posts
Discussion Starter · #64 ·
Officially named the Clarity. Full press release:

Honda Exhibits World Premiere of CLARITY FUEL CELL, Planned Production Model of its All-new Fuel Cell Vehicle, at 44th Tokyo Motor Show 2015

-- Lease sales in Japan will begin in March 2016 --

TOKYO, Japan, October 28, 2015 - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today unveiled the world premiere of the planned production model of its all-new fuel cell vehicle (FCV), CLARITY FUEL CELL, at the 44th Tokyo Motor Show 2015. This model will be on display at the Honda booth during the Tokyo Motor Show. (Press days: October 28-29, 2015 / Public days: October 30 – November 8, 2015)

The all-new CLARITY FUEL CELL fuses the ease of use of a gasoline-powered vehicle and values that are unique to a FCV at a high level. This fusion gives this sedan-type FCV high value and potential to set a benchmark for FCVs now and in the future.

Employing original Honda technologies, the fuel cell stack for this model was downsized by 33% compared to the previous version of the fuel cell stack and yet output of more than 100kW and output density of 3.1kW/L*1 – approximately a 60% improvement – were achieved. The fuel cell powertrain was made as compact as a V6 engine*2, and thus it was made possible to consolidate it under the hood of a sedan-type vehicle for the first time in the world*3. This powertrain layout enabled a full cabin package that seats five adults comfortably .

Combined with improved efficiency of the powertrain and a reduced energy requirement for driving, a 70MPa high-pressure hydrogen storage tank installed to this vehicle provides a cruising range of more than 700 km*4(Honda internal measurement – for reference), the top- class cruising range among all FCVs. The tank can be refilled in approximately three minutes*5, realizing ease of use equivalent to that of a gasoline-powered vehicle. Furthermore, the high-output motor with maximum output of 130kW*1 realizes both direct, highly- responsive and exhilarating driving experience and excellent quietness at the same time. In addition, when combined with an external power feeding device, the Power Exporter 9000, the all-new CLARITY FUEL CELL can function as a "power plant on wheels" that generates and provides electricity to the community in times of a disaster or other events.

Honda will begin lease sales in Japan of this all-new CLARITY FUEL CELL in March 2016. For the first year after the start of sales in Japan, Honda will focus on sales mainly to local government bodies or business customers which Honda has already been working together for the popularization of FCVs. During this period, Honda will collect information about the in- market use situation, including the external power feeding device, and gather diverse opinions from customers and other relevant organizations, then later begin sales to individual customers.

Honda will begin with small-volume production at the Production Supervisory Unit and Powertrain Production Supervisory Unit (located in Takanezawa-machi, Shioya-gun, Tochigi, Japan.), then eventually expand production volume and begin regular sales along with lease sales. The sales price*6 of CLARITY FUEL CELL in Japan will be 7.66 million yen (including consumption tax). The Power Exporter 9000, which has the capacity to feed approximately seven-days' worth*7 of electricity for an average household, is scheduled to go on sale at the same time as the CLARITY FUEL CELL. CLARITY FUEL CELL will be sequentially evolved into the U.S. and Europe.

Honda was one of the first automakers to begin focusing attention to hydrogen as a possible solution for issues such as global warming and depletion of fossil fuels. Honda has been positioning the FCV, which emits only water, as the ultimate environmentally-responsible vehicle and has taken a proactive approach to the research and development of FCVs since the late 1980s.

In 2002, the Honda FCX became the first fuel cell vehicle in the world to be certified by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the California Air Resources Board (CARB). With these certifications, Honda began lease sales of the Honda FCX in Japan and the U.S. In 2008, Honda became the first automaker to begin lease sales of the FCX Clarity, which featured an innovative sedan-type package and unprecedented driving experience. The all-new CLARITY FUEL CELL was developed based on various data related to the ease of use and driving performance of these previous Honda FCVs.

With the goal to make a contribution to the forthcoming hydrogen energy society and to realize the joy and freedom of mobility and a sustainable society where people can enjoy life, Honda will continue taking on new challenges in the area of hydrogen technologies including the Smart Hydrogen Station, FCVs and external power feeding devices under the concept of "generate, use and get connected."

Key specifications
Number of occupants


Cruising range (reference)

More than 700km*4 (Honda internal measurement while being driven in JC 08 Mode

Refueling time

Approximately 3 minutes*5

FC maximum output

More than 100kW

FC stack output density


Motor maximum output


Hydrogen maximum filling pressure


Energy storage

Lithium-ion battery

Vehicle size (length X width X height)


Price*6 (reference)

7.66 million yen (including consumption tax)

Body color (total 3 colors)

‐Premium Brilliant Garnet Metallic (Roof color: Black / Interior color: Platinum Gray)
‐While Orchid Pearl (Roof color: Black / Interior color: Platinum Gray)
‐Crystal Black Pearl (Interior color: Platinum Gray)

*1 Honda internal measurement
*2 Honda 3.5L V6 engine
*3 Among planned production models of sedan-type vehicle, Honda internal research as of October 2015
*4 Honda internal measurement in JC08 mode and after refueling the vehicle at a hydrogen station with charging pressure of 70 MPa which comply with SAE standards (J2601). The cruising range may vary when the vehicle is refueled at hydrogen station with different specifications, as amount of hydrogen put in the tank will vary depending on the specifications of hydrogen station. The cruising range may also vary significantly depending on conditions of usage (ambient temperature, traffic congestion, etc.) and how the vehicle is driven (sudden starts, use of air-conditioning unit, etc.)
*5 Honda internal measures using 70MPa station in the exterior temperature of 20 degrees Celsius. Time required for refueling may vary depending on conditions.
*6 This model is currently available exclusively for lease sales. The lease price varies depending on lease terms and plans etc.
*7 Calculated based on the average daily electricity consumption by an average household (Researched by the Federation of Electric Power Companies of Japan)

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Correlation isn't causation, but every hybrid/etc. that's ever been released with one of these restrictive trunks has been an abject market failure. I know these cars aren't supposed to sell in Prius volume, but it's going to never be commercially viable if they can't package it in a way that's Prius or Tesla practical,


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Vehicle size (length X width X height)

Compare to 2016 Civic: 4,630mmx1,798mmx1,415mm

Compare to 2016 Accord: 4,889mmx1,849mmx1,466mm

Compare to 2015 Crosstour: 4,994mmx1,897mmx1,562mm

Compare to the original 2010 Clarity: 4,834mmx1,847mmx1,468mm

So the new Clarity is a lot bigger than the Civic and almost identical in size to Accord (also slightly bigger than the previous gen Clarity).

I take back what I said earlier... it is not a "Civictour". But it does make a nice new Crosstour... just imagine it with a 100mm suspension lift and Ross will eat it up. :D

1991 Mercedes-Benz 300SL
32,229 Posts
Discussion Starter · #69 ·
I take back what I said earlier... it is not a "Civictour". But it does make a nice new Crosstour... just imagine it with a 100mm suspension lift and Ross will eat it up. :D
I'd love to see this futuristic styling translated onto a crossover!

1991 Mercedes-Benz 300SL
32,229 Posts
Discussion Starter · #70 ·
via Carscoops
Following the first ever production fuel-cell vehicle, the FCX, which was introduced to U.S. and Japan in December 2002, Honda is now getting ready to offer a new hydrogen-powered car to its future customers. The model is called the Clarity Fuel Cell and it was unveiled last month in Tokyo.

The North American version in LAthat makes its debut at the LA Auto Show is all but identical to its Japanese counterpart and it has an aerodynamic body with clean character lines, LED exterior lighting and 18-inch alloy wheels. Customers can choose between three colors, namely red, white and black.

Standard equipment includes Honda's comprehensive array of driver assist systems. The cabin can seat five in its leather-wrapped seats and the infotainment system comes with a large touchscreen and Android Auto and Apple CarPlay support.

Compared to the original FCX, the Clarity features a fuel cell stack that's 33 percent more compact and its power density is up by 60 percent. The fuel cell powertrain is comparable to a 3.5-liter V6 in size and it fits entirely under the hood, making room for a spacious cabin.

The automaker didn’t release any output figures on the Clarity FCV, but from previous releases we know that the fuel cell stack has a total capacity of 100kW and the electric motor generates 174hp (177 PS). Filling its tank with hydrogen takes approximately three minutes and the total driving range is estimated to exceed 300 miles (483 km).

Honda will use the platform underpinning the Clarity Fuel Cell as the foundation for the next PHEV, which will launch in the United States by 2018. This will get the two-motor hybrid plug-in system with improvements in battery capacity and power, offering “more than triple the 13-mile all-electric range of the Accord Sedan”.

The hydrogen-powered model will be available at select fuel cell dealers in California, at first in Los Angeles and Orange County and then San Francisco Bay Area and Sacramento. As hydrogen fueling networks expand, Honda will introduce it to other states, too.

The Clarity Fuel Cell will go on sale in late 2016. No US pricing details have been released so far; just for the record, in its local market, it starts from 7.66m YEN ($63,630).

2013 Dodge Charger R/T Road & Track
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The stylists must be f**king with us.

This car is intentionally ugly.

Oh, we're designing a fuel-efficient energy-conscious car?

Let's make sure no one buys one.
The new Prius is ugly too. Maybe the new trend with Green vehicles is making them as ugly as possible.

1991 Mercedes-Benz 300SL
32,229 Posts
Discussion Starter · #77 ·

Honda Shares Clarity Fuel Cell U.S. Pricing and Sales Plans

Jan 21, 2016 - WASHINGTON, D.C.

Five-passenger Clarity Fuel Cell sedan slated to launch in California before the end of 2016
Expected price around $60,000 with a targeted monthly lease under $500
Next-generation Honda FCV provides significant gains in packaging, interior space and real-world performance, including an anticipated driving range in excess of 300 miles
Additionally, the platform underpinning the Clarity Fuel Cell will serve as the base for a next-generation Honda plug-in hybrid to launch in the U.S. by 2018

Honda today announced the company's plans for U.S. sales of its new 5-passenger, hydrogen-powered Clarity Fuel Cell sedan at the 2016 Washington, D.C. Auto Show. Slated to begin retail leasing to customers in select California markets before the end of 2016, the Clarity Fuel Cell is expected to be priced around $60,000 with a targeted monthly lease under $500.

Honda expects limited volumes in the early stages of production. Deliveries will begin through certified fuel cell vehicle dealers in Los Angeles and Orange counties as well as the San Francisco Bay Area and Sacramento. The company will start by leasing vehicles and expects to move to retail sales with increased volumes and market coverage coincident with increasing vehicle supplies and the growing hydrogen refueling station network.

The Clarity Fuel Cell anchors an expanding portfolio of advanced environmental Honda vehicles, including a reengineered 2017 Accord Hybrid, going on-sale this spring, and a new Honda Plug-In Hybrid vehicle based on the same platform as the Clarity Fuel Cell, slated for launch by 2018.

"The new Clarity Fuel Cell and Accord Hybrid arriving this year, along with the new plug-in hybrid coming by 2018, are critical steps toward a new generation of Honda advanced environmental vehicles and a true volume pillar for Honda and our product portfolio in the U.S.," said John Mendel, executive vice president, Automobile Division, American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "The Clarity Fuel Cell is a potential game changer because it offers an uncompromising, zero emissions customer experience, with performance, utility, range and refueling time on par with today's gasoline-powered cars."

Customers interested in the Clarity Fuel Cell are encouraged to visit http://www.HondaCars.com/Honda-FCV where they can receive more information and sign up for the opportunity to become a Clarity Fuel Cell customer.

Honda Clarity Fuel Cell
Technological innovations to the Clarity Fuel Cell have created a fuel cell stack that is 33 percent more compact than its predecessor with a 60 percent increase in power density compared to the outgoing Honda FCX Clarity. The more compact fuel cell and integrated powertrain, comparable in size to a V-6 engine, now fits entirely under the hood of the car, allowing for a more spacious cabin with seating for five passengers. The new Honda Clarity Fuel Cell will feature a driving range estimated to exceed 300 miles, with an anticipated refueling time of approximately three to five minutes.

As the next progression in Honda's dynamic FCV styling, the Honda Clarity Fuel Cell features a low, wide aerodynamic body with clean character lines. The interior achieves a refined and harmonious experience using rich materials and intuitive, streamlined controls. Additional features include the Honda Sensing™ suite of safety and driver assistive technologies, Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™, LED exterior lighting and 18-inch aluminum alloy wheels. The Clarity Fuel Cell will be available in black, white and signature red exterior paint schemes.

Next-Generation Plug-In Hybrid
In addition, the platform underpinning the Clarity Fuel Cell will serve as the base for a next-generation Honda plug-in hybrid launching in the U.S. by 2018. This will be a new, 50-state volume vehicle in the Honda lineup-up. Featuring a second iteration of the i-MMD plug-in system that offers significant improvements in battery capacity and power, the next-generation Honda plug-in hybrid will more than triple the 13-mile all-electric range of the previous Accord Plug-In Hybrid Sedan. This much greater all electric range will enable a zero emissions commute for the vast majority of American drivers with EV operation at highway speeds.

Honda Fuel Cell Vehicle Leadership
Honda has led the industry for nearly two decades in the development and deployment of fuel cell vehicle technology through extensive real-world testing and customer deployments, including the first government fleet customers and first-ever retail consumer leasing program. Since the introduction of its first-generation fuel cell vehicle, the FCX, in 2002, Honda has made significant technological advancements in fuel cell vehicle operation in both hot and sub-freezing weather while meeting customer expectations and safety regulations.

Honda has deployed fuel cell vehicles in the U.S., Germany and Japan, including the FCX Clarity, which was named the 2009 World Green Car. Honda has delivered these vehicles to individual retail consumers in the U.S. and collected valuable feedback concerning real-world use of both fuel cell vehicles and public hydrogen refueling stations.

Honda's second-generation fuel cell vehicle, the FCX Clarity, launched in July 2008 and was quickly heralded as a technological breakthrough in the areas of design, packaging and efficiency. As the world's first dedicated platform fuel cell vehicle, the FCX Clarity was powered by the Honda V-flow fuel cell stack positioned in the center tunnel of the vehicle, with the electric motor located down low in the front of the vehicle, providing performance on par with a gasoline powered sedan, including 240 miles of driving range.

Hydrogen Refueling Station Network
In the effort to speed the advancement of a refueling station network outside of California, in May 2013 American Honda joined the public-private partnership H2USA, which brings together automakers, government agencies, hydrogen suppliers, and the hydrogen and fuel cell industries to coordinate research and identify cost-effective solutions to deploy stations that can deliver affordable, clean hydrogen fuel in the United States. Additionally, in an effort to support the wider introduction of fuel cell vehicles, Honda in 2014 committed $13.8 million in financial support to FirstElement Fuel to accelerate the building of additional hydrogen refueling stations throughout the state of California.

In June 2013, Honda entered into a long-term collaborative agreement with General Motors to co-develop the next-generation of fuel cell systems and hydrogen storage technologies, aiming for the 2020 timeframe. The collaboration expects to succeed by sharing technological expertise, economies of scale and other benefits.

Honda Fuel Cell Vehicle Firsts
Honda fuel cell technology firsts include:

The first EPA- and CARB-certified fuel cell vehicle in (July 2002)
The world's first production fuel cell vehicle, introduced to the U.S. and Japan (December 2002)
The first fuel cell vehicle to start and operate in sub-freezing temperatures (2003)
The first fuel cell vehicle leased to an individual customer (July 2005)
The first manufacturer to build and produce a dedicated fuel cell vehicle (FCX Clarity) on a production line specifically made for fuel cell vehicles (2008)
The first manufacturer to create a fuel cell vehicle dealer network (2008)

Honda Environmental Leadership
Based on its vision of "Blue Skies for our Children," Honda is taking a comprehensive approach to reducing the environmental impact of its products, advancing fuel efficiency, low emissions and fun-to-drive performance with new powertrain technologies, including more fuel-efficient engines and transmissions and advanced electromotive technologies. Honda will offer several next-generation, advanced powertrain vehicles, including the launch of the Honda Clarity Fuel Cell sedan in 2016, and an all-new Honda plug-in hybrid model by 2018. Honda will also expand the use of its advanced two- and three-motor hybrid systems in the years to come. Together, these vehicles will offer significant sales volume, enabling Honda to bring ultra-low carbon transportation to consumers in the U.S.

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If the infrastructure is there it makes sense to go for it. In the frutopian world where everyone has an ev there's a major hurdle, infrastructure at home. So many high rises, condos, apartments, etc that rule people out of ev driving. You'd think the greenies would be able to comprehed this, but they're usually too busy sniffing their own farts.

'19 Subaru Forester with the no-faster stripes
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If the infrastructure is there it makes sense to go for it. In the frutopian world where everyone has an ev there's a major hurdle, infrastructure at home. So many high rises, condos, apartments, etc that rule people out of ev driving. You'd think the greenies would be able to comprehed this, but they're usually too busy sniffing their own farts.
But the infrastructure isn't there, and will never be. The complete lack of hydrogen infrastructure anywhere is bigger hurdle to a larger pool of potential fuel cell buyers than the possible lack of charging stations at an apartment complex or condo is to apartment-dwelling potential EV buyers.

EVs don't need to be perfect for everybody to be usable by many. High-rise apartment dwellers are a tiny minority of potential EV buyers, and are less likely to own a car. If it's not perfect for them, that's okay - a pickup, delivery van, or fullsize sedan is probably not ideal for them either, and that's not an argument agains those cars. And it may not even be an issue for them - many new developments include EV charging stations in their parking garages, so even some apartment dwellers might find themselves in EVs.

You'd think you'd be able to comprehend this, but you're too busy nursing buyer's remorse to think it through - even if you were inclined to critical thought anyway, which you don't seem to be.
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