Americans 'not likely' switch from gas pump to electric plug even if gas prices climb higher than ever...
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Ideally, each freeway rest area would have a row of chargers. The charging area would be constructed in a manner that it would be easier/modular in design to add more chargers as demand dictates. With that said we will likely replace my car with an EV first and would probably only have charge outside of my house once or twice per year (at the most). My wife's vehicle will still be ICE or hybrid for awhile - we do a lot of driving for travel hockey.
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See, this is why everyone thinks you're being an ass. There are more than two variables in this situation. Way more.It's just cars and I'll always talk with you
It's not that serious.
Straight up, here's my deal on that charging at home argument.
If you or anyone else believes that the majority of EV owners will charge at home, Elon and our government are saying otherwise and are trying hard as hell to put chargers everywhere. Who is right?
I would never need anything but the plug in my garage because my car is a commuter. I don't even care about range over roughly 100 miles, because that's so much more than I'll ever use. Any gassing up is less convenient for my personal use case and I think about that every damn time I'm getting gas freezing my ass of in January or sweating in August.
If I wanted an EV for my wife the variables would change significantly, and chargers away from home for occasional use would be one of those variables. It would be used about once every month or two, so it's not as inconvenient as gassing up every week like you're trying to make it out to be. Others? They'll have different use cases still, and some will need outside charging on a regular basis, and a smaller subset will need closer to 100% outside charging.
This isn't binary. It isn't even close.
wut.... ? of course the majority of ev owners will charge at home.
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Almost 2-1/2 years and I still haven't needed to charge my Bolt away from my home. I haven't taken a trip over 200 miles with it. But if I did, I could trade the 5-10 minutes of weekly/monthly gas station time in for an hour of DC charging time. Perhaps just stay at a hotel with free level 2 charging or do some shopping at a group of stores that also has free level 2 charging.
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Apartment residents will probably get to the the point where they will separate themselves from vehicle ownership. Too much of a hassle and many older buildings will never have chargers installed especially in cities with older buildings
mmm.
anyway, honestly, I can't wait for this to just be mandated, people bitch about it for 5 years and then just get used to it and stfu about EVs already. They're the future of the developped world whether the United States' population likes it or not. f*ken deal with it.
we're consumers.
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what are we mandating here?
EVs
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As to changing to EV? Not much incentive when you already have paid out money to run what you have, ,unless you really, really, need to get a relatively new car
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mandating EV's? I thought the thread was about switching voluntarily
Mandating EVs would have to be mandated, as the title says, people are willing to pay for the high gas prices and the care about the environment be damned.
But that's not going to happen here, the public push back for a mandate to EVs would be immense. You really don't want to force it, it wouldn't end as you believe it would. It would turn the narrative into a more negative direction for EVs than they already face and you don't want that.
Consumers drive demand and left with consumers we would continue buying a mix of EVs, hybrids and gas, with gas vehicles and hybrids being the majority. And there's nothing wrong with that.
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oh fer goodness sake. Just like that mandate.? No matter what the cost to the individual consumer?
You're reading his frustration, but I'm sure we could find many things he doesn't the government forcing him to do. The fact that the majority of people say they care about the environment but really don't let it change their buying habits.
Mandating is a wrong headed approach. You automatically rally people against your ideology, starting off by taking the decision away.
EVs will be a part of a mix, these guys have to accept that EVs will have to compete on the same metrics gas and hybrids do. Not by force, but by product, value, demand.
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Take your mandate...................and shove it
Now, now, easy tiger, he's a good guy. I get his sentiment too. He's coming from a good place.
A mandate would kill the drive EVs are on. They're already seen as a political football, a mandate would magnify that. The majority would push back against that mandate and therefore EVs, he doesn't want that.
Though conversely, there's a lot of money to be made off of selling tshirts with your slogan, "take your mandate and shove it" 😆
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the charging infrastructure is not there for traveling. great for an around town or short trips. the taycan is a pretty sweet car though, for an ev
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California Reveals Its Plan to Phase Out New Gas-Powered Cars by 2035
If adopted, the new measures would make a dent in the state’s greenhouse gas emissions and set the bar for the broader auto industry.
California is the largest auto market in the United States and the 10th largest in the world. In addition, 15 other states — including New York, Massachusetts and North Carolina — have previously followed California’s moves regarding tailpipe emissions and may adopt similar proposals.
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