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Since the kits have been out for a few weeks/months, I was wondering if anyone has gone to the track with their setups. I've seen the dynos and the manufacturer runs.....I want to see how the average Joe is doing with the kits.....
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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (tyrolkid)

A friend's dad partially owns the track that APR tests at (Montgomery, AL). My friend is there for every test and tune. He said a 12.5 is the fastest he's seen APR's black GTi go. He also told me the same black GTi (yes with Audi TT wheels) once "hiccuped" down the track to a 15.6. I don't fully believe this story, but he seemed to know APR's GTi fairly well in detail.
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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (VWTornado)

--GTI00 from VT sig states that he's got ATP's stage 3 with FMIC and 3" cat back
--Jolf has the kit
there are a few around -- we need to push them to run their cars as some point hehe
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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (VWTornado)

Yeah!! Somebody look up this Schmoe guy and tell him to get his car to the track, and Pronto!!
btw, what kit does Schmoe have, APR or ATP?
 

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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (VWTornado)

What if Joe Smoe(ME
)can't drive for a ----. Would that give you a basis for how strong the car is. Not really. To me something like the video of the customer with the stage III golf running a supercharged S2000 gives me a better idea of how strong that sucker is. Besides how many times has the Vortex seen someone post a time or dyno then instantly be accused of being on the "in" with whatever tuner. I know you guys are wanting tranverse times but to make a point I have only ran a 14.0 quarter but with a trap speed of over 103mph. Does that mean the APR kit is low on power? Nope, it means I can't drive, I only need 3 gears through the quarter and I am racing at an altitude of 6,000 ft. and my car weighs alot. Alot of factors in quarter mile times-.
 

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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (MYAPRSTAGEIII)

Oh god, here we go again.....

One more time for those of you who may have missed it.....REGARDLESS OF HOW GOOD OR BAD YOU LAUNCH/DRIVE/SHIFT, THE TRAP SPEED WILL BE ALMOST THE SAME. The ONLY reasonable excuses you can have are weight, weather, and altitude differences(Which is minimized with a turbo). The weight difference between MkIVs will add up to 1.5mph AT MOST(150lbs).
-Mike P


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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (tyrolkid)

Well since I'm one of "those people", I can say you will have to wait a while for trap speeds from me. I'm not going to the 1/4, till I have my ATB diff installed and new clutch broken in, and that's not going to happen till my stocker goes.


[Modified by Wolk's Wagon, 3:51 PM 2-13-2002]
 

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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (tyrolkid)

quote:[HR][/HR]Oh god, here we go again.....
[HR][/HR]​
I have a feeling that we aren't going to see any times from anyone soon. Unless one of us posting and ASKING the questions get one of the kits. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif My t3/t4 goes on just before Waterfest.
 

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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (Wolk's Wagon)

quote:[HR][/HR]What if Joe Smoe(ME )can't drive for a ----. Would that give you a basis for how strong the car is. Not really. To me something like the video of the customer with the stage III golf running a supercharged S2000 gives me a better idea of how strong that sucker is. Besides how many times has the Vortex seen someone post a time or dyno then instantly be accused of being on the "in" with whatever tuner. I know you guys are wanting tranverse times but to make a point I have only ran a 14.0 quarter but with a trap speed of over 103mph. Does that mean the APR kit is low on power? Nope, it means I can't drive, I only need 3 gears through the quarter and I am racing at an altitude of 6,000 ft. and my car weighs alot. Alot of factors in quarter mile times-. [HR][/HR]​
This is honestly one of the best takes I've heard on 1/4 times. I completely agree. You could take 10 drivers and get 10 different times that vary by 1.5 seconds in the same exact car. When cars make serious power, driver ability is a LARGE portion of the 1/4 time factor. Nick ran that 12.6 and it's legitimate. Nick is also a good driver and has had the car for quite some time and is very familiar with it, so it doesn't mean that every stage III owner is going to run 12.6. In fact, Nicks 60 foot time on the 12.6 was something like 1.99, not that great. The car is capable of going very quickly, there are just a lot of variables from car to car, driver to driver, tire to tire, track to track, etc.
Fact is the car is very conservatively rated at 290hp on 93 and 340hp on 100, whatever any given driver can do with that is up to them. I do think it will be fun to start seeing customer cars and their times. But, I just think people need to remember all the variables that live at the track.
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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (KrautFed)

That 15.6 was Nick playing around on the stock TT crap Pirelli P6000's. He was spinning all the way past the 880' mark before he short shifted to 4th.
You failed to mention that the trap speed was almost 108mph....
 

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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (Tom/APR)

quote:[HR][/HR]That 15.6 was Nick playing around on the stock TT crap Pirelli P6000's. He was spinning all the way past the 880' mark before he short shifted to 4th. [HR][/HR]​
Umm, i got a 14.5 almost a year ago on crappy stock Continentals with just a 1 bar chip. Sounds like excuses to me. Heck, I can spin through 3rd if i redline it and shift hard.



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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (tyrolkid)

quote:[HR][/HR]You failed to mention that the trap speed was almost 108mph....
Tell that to your buddy Jonathan......[HR][/HR]​
Calm down beavis.
As far as I know, other than the test cars, none of them have been to the drag strip yet.
 

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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (JosephShaw)

i'd have some times for my T3/T4.... but alas, i just nabbed a job at my local VW dealership, and i've put the turbo project on hold just in case i'm not selling a whole lotta cars at first. i'm so upset
i got the turbo coming into my shop, FMIC in the mail, and waiting to get the rest of the kit. but hopefully i'll do a killing my first month and i'll slap the turbo on in April and feed you guys your hungry track times http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 

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Re: Any APR or ATP stage 3 1/4 mile times yet? (tyrolkid)

and here I have been wondering why all of the *tuners* that are reading these boards are afraid to interact with us

quote:[HR][/HR]You failed to mention that the trap speed was almost 108mph....
Tell that to your buddy Jonathan......[HR][/HR]​



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