Just wondering if anybody ever experimented with different intake with your K04 kit. Do you think there would be any benefit to using a kit that does not use the stock cover and piping? Might also need and adapter to fit the intake section of the turbo, I think the K04 is larger.
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Re: Anybody with APR/Stasis K04 using aftermarket intake? (BlownM3)
we installed an Evo Motorsports intake on our customers APR K04'd car. We were able to make 318whp on 93octane on that car as well.
http://uspmotorsports.com/K04mk5.php
we installed an Evo Motorsports intake on our customers APR K04'd car. We were able to make 318whp on 93octane on that car as well.
http://uspmotorsports.com/K04mk5.php
Re: Anybody with APR/Stasis K04 using aftermarket intake? (Gregg@USP.MotorSports)
Ok that is what I was looking for. Quick questions:
Is this "elbow" plastic on the EVOMS? and how did you add the nipple if so? Also any issues on a difference in diamter to the turbo inlet betwen the K03 which this EVOMS was made for and the K04?
If the EVOMS is plastic I think it would be far the easiest to modify to make this kit work. I was thinking about drilling and tapping a pipe barb fitting.
Modified by BlownM3 at 5:07 PM 11-16-2008
Ok that is what I was looking for. Quick questions:
Is this "elbow" plastic on the EVOMS? and how did you add the nipple if so? Also any issues on a difference in diamter to the turbo inlet betwen the K03 which this EVOMS was made for and the K04?
If the EVOMS is plastic I think it would be far the easiest to modify to make this kit work. I was thinking about drilling and tapping a pipe barb fitting.
Modified by BlownM3 at 5:07 PM 11-16-2008
Re: FV-QR (dubsker)
Yeah the inlet on the turbo is the same for both the k03 and k04, 59mm or so. Pulled mine off and compared it to the stock elbow.
| Quote, originally posted by dubsker » |
| they should be the same. you mean a flange? you can buy bsh's dv relocation kit. and it will work great with the evoms. |
Yeah the inlet on the turbo is the same for both the k03 and k04, 59mm or so. Pulled mine off and compared it to the stock elbow.
Re: FV-QR (BlownM3)
This one will work for you too! It will be ready in the first quarter of 09. For FSI owner's, it will incorporate a carbon fiber tube that replaces the maf all the way back to the turbo inlet and will have a bung for the dv recirc.
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| Quote, originally posted by BlownM3 » |
Yeah the inlet on the turbo is the same for both the k03 and k04, 59mm or so. Pulled mine off and compared it to the stock elbow. |
This one will work for you too! It will be ready in the first quarter of 09. For FSI owner's, it will incorporate a carbon fiber tube that replaces the maf all the way back to the turbo inlet and will have a bung for the dv recirc.
Almost Q3 2013 and yet no FSI Intake love..Re: FV-QR (Keith@APR)
I see the TSI marked on the cover . Will this be avaliable also for the TFSI 's ?
| Quote, originally posted by Keith@APR » |
This one will work for you too! It will be ready in the first quarter of 09. For FSI owner's, it will incorporate a carbon fiber tube that replaces the maf all the way back to the turbo inlet and will have a bung for the dv recirc.
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I see the TSI marked on the cover . Will this be avaliable also for the TFSI 's ?
Re: FV-QR (sTTeve)
When doing an ROI calculation while maintaining the same design as the intake sits currently I was able to determine that manufacturing in plastic would actually increase the selling the price over CF as most of the expense in plastic manufacturing is in the tooling cost. A design this intricate resulted in some pretty hefty tooling quotes from the plastic manu's and I would have to raise the price by nearly $50 over the course of a 4 year product life.
CF is unique in that the materials are expensive but the tooling charges are actually quite low. This is why we see alot of companies that are able to make low volume, intricate and complicated CF parts for what is relatively inexpensive.
Plastic is a much cheaper material and therefore the actual peice prices are low but the tooling is very difficult for a design like our intake and even for oem airboxes. OEM's have the opportunity to amortorize those charges over literally hundreds of thousands of peices. I am forced to amortorize the cost over hundreds of peices therefore making the amount of cost associated with the tooling to each peice much higher.
I think the thread about the Volant intake is a good example of what intricate plastic intakes cost.
Now, if the design was relatively simple, say a straight peice of tubing with a filter on the end, then the tooling cost for plastic would come way down and it would actually be cheaper than CF.
However, our Engineers hate to be limited by the cost of tooling or material and we find that the design and material properties for the application win the day which results in the best engineering possible.
We could dumb the design down enough to make a plastic tool affordable but we would be compromising the engineering design of the part.
CF allows for the best material to be used and for low tooling costs with no sacrifice of design characteristics and is proving to be the best of worlds at this time.
Modified by Keith@APR at 11:45 AM 11-18-2008
| Quote, originally posted by sTTeve » |
| whats the price range looking like? And is it coming in a plastic only kit to help keep cost down for those who dont want carbon fiber in the engine? |
When doing an ROI calculation while maintaining the same design as the intake sits currently I was able to determine that manufacturing in plastic would actually increase the selling the price over CF as most of the expense in plastic manufacturing is in the tooling cost. A design this intricate resulted in some pretty hefty tooling quotes from the plastic manu's and I would have to raise the price by nearly $50 over the course of a 4 year product life.
CF is unique in that the materials are expensive but the tooling charges are actually quite low. This is why we see alot of companies that are able to make low volume, intricate and complicated CF parts for what is relatively inexpensive.
Plastic is a much cheaper material and therefore the actual peice prices are low but the tooling is very difficult for a design like our intake and even for oem airboxes. OEM's have the opportunity to amortorize those charges over literally hundreds of thousands of peices. I am forced to amortorize the cost over hundreds of peices therefore making the amount of cost associated with the tooling to each peice much higher.
I think the thread about the Volant intake is a good example of what intricate plastic intakes cost.
Now, if the design was relatively simple, say a straight peice of tubing with a filter on the end, then the tooling cost for plastic would come way down and it would actually be cheaper than CF.
However, our Engineers hate to be limited by the cost of tooling or material and we find that the design and material properties for the application win the day which results in the best engineering possible.
We could dumb the design down enough to make a plastic tool affordable but we would be compromising the engineering design of the part.
CF allows for the best material to be used and for low tooling costs with no sacrifice of design characteristics and is proving to be the best of worlds at this time.
Modified by Keith@APR at 11:45 AM 11-18-2008
Re: (HYPERGUY710)
We could play a game. Whoever guesses the price get's a free T-shirt from the None Shall Pass Apparel line!
Game ends at 6 pm CST and the winner has to be at least within $5 of the actual retail price!
First one to post the actual price wins or the closest to the actual price by 6pm that is within $5 wins!
| Quote, originally posted by HYPERGUY710 » |
so whats the pricing looking like keith?? or is it top secret
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We could play a game. Whoever guesses the price get's a free T-shirt from the None Shall Pass Apparel line!
Game ends at 6 pm CST and the winner has to be at least within $5 of the actual retail price!
First one to post the actual price wins or the closest to the actual price by 6pm that is within $5 wins!
Re: (Keith@APR)
LOL...not sure if you were serious on this or not, but I'm gonna guess...
$349.99 plus shipping
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| Quote, originally posted by Keith@APR » |
We could play a game. Whoever guesses the price get's a free T-shirt from the None Shall Pass Apparel line! Game ends at 6 pm CST and the winner has to be at least within $5 of the actual retail price! First one to post the actual price wins or the closest to the actual price by 6pm that is within $5 wins! |
LOL...not sure if you were serious on this or not, but I'm gonna guess...
$349.99 plus shipping
Re: (sTTeve)
Winner, Winner! Chicken Dinner!
Please pick a T-shirt from this link and email me your shipping info!
http://www.goapr.com/VW/produc....html
klucas@goapr.com
| Quote, originally posted by sTTeve » |
| $150 please please please, but really $299 This is for a free intake right? |
Winner, Winner! Chicken Dinner!
Please pick a T-shirt from this link and email me your shipping info!
http://www.goapr.com/VW/produc....html
klucas@goapr.com
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