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#22 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (classicjetta)

Quote, originally posted by classicjetta »
This is true of all VWs. So it's not a problem in that sense.

bingo, and I like it, its extremly rare that you need a horn when the car isnt running, and it prevents accidenly hitting it when getting in or out.
 
#23 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (punkrockdub)

Quote, originally posted by Lumis_Wolfy »

OH MY GOD NO WAI!
my mk1 and mk2 dont either. Do you really need a horn when you arent moving? the answer is no.
I tell you what, its almost as bad as having loose stitching in your recaros!
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Quote, originally posted by Lumis_Wolfy »

"why dont features I dont need work when the car isnt on" is like saying "why am i stuffing a cheeseburger in my face when im not hungry". YOU DONT NEED IT.

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Did you even read the original post? He described a situation in which it clearly would have been useful to use the horn when the car was not on: To prevent an old bag from backing into the car. For clarity's sake here it is again for those that can't read:
Quote, originally posted by punkrockdub »
So a friend of mine told me she was in a parking lot parked, and some old lady was about to back up and she knew she didn't see my friend....
she went to the use the horn, guess what, it doesn't work when the car's turned off!

I think the OP's complaint is fair. There are situations when you'd bein the car with the car off when you'd like to use the horn such as the scenario described by the OP.
Is there a good reason why the horn should be disabled when the car is off aside from the horror
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of accidentally honking the horn when getting into or out of the car?
It doesn't matter that this is how VWs are, it's a valid complaint.
Quote, originally posted by Jettavr666 »

bingo, and I like it, its extremly rare that you need a horn when the car isnt running, and it prevents accidenly hitting it when getting in or out.

Extremely rare instances of saving your car from being damaged an old fart with no ability to navigate parking lots outweigh the possible minor embarassment of accidentally honking the horn, IMO.


Modified by RobMan8023 at 10:38 AM 4-22-2008
 
#24 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (Jettavr666)

Quote, originally posted by Jettavr666 »

bingo, and I like it, its extremly rare that you need a horn when the car isnt running, and it prevents accidenly hitting it when getting in or out.

It's brilliant German engineering imho.. because that ONE time a little old lady is trying to back into your car, you can just calmly sit there and let her destroy your front bumper.. So then you go buy a new $2000 piece of plastic.. I mean bumper from Volkswagen.
wait whut?
 
#26 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (punkrockdub)

Just wire it into the cig. lighter/ pwr outlet ... it has constant power.
( unlike other cars,
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Chit, I'm starting my own thread, "how come my subaru doesnt have constant power @ the lighter ! !1! 11!!"
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LAWLZ .
Do you guys not have insurance ? Its purdy clear whos at fault, and it not like any real ( personal ) damage would occur in 5mph accident / "fender bender ". ( unless you are standing between the 2 cars... )

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Modified by Martinus at 7:23 PM 4-22-2008
 
#28 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (jimix)

Quote, originally posted by jimix »
Do you know of any cars that have horns that do work when the car is off?

Just about every american car/truck I've ever been in made before 2008...
 
#29 ·
Re: (Lumis_Wolfy)

Quote, originally posted by Lumis_Wolfy »

"why dont features I dont need work when the car isnt on" is like saying "why am i stuffing a cheeseburger in my face when im not hungry". YOU DONT NEED IT.

wow. He didn't say that. He obviously DID need the feature
 
#30 ·
Re: (Nightranger)

Quote, originally posted by Nightranger »

wow. He didn't say that. He obviously DID need the feature

no, i read the post.
what im saying is.
volkswagen isnt going to make a useless feature useful for the one in a million occasion.
hey i need windows and doors that wont ever leak a drop of water into the doors for that off chance i drop my car into a lake, sound good?
 
#32 ·
Re: (fixmy59bug)

Quote, originally posted by fixmy59bug »
WHY WON'T VWoA LET ME SEE HOW FAST I AM GOING IF MY IGNITION IS OFF?????

I agree. Just because you're probably not moving is no reason to disable the instruments. WAKE UP VWoA!!!???!??!??!?!
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#36 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (RobMan8023)

Quote, originally posted by RobMan8023 »
Is there a good reason why the horn should be disabled when the car is off aside from the horror
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of accidentally honking the horn when getting into or out of the car?

It's a tradeoff.
On most European cars, the horn doesn't work when the ignition is off.
On most Japanese cars, the clock isn't displayed when the ignition is off.
Which of those two are more likely to cause you inconvenience on a daily basis?
And speaking of which, I'm surprised that on some vehicles, the odometer isn't displayed when the ignition is off.
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#37 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (VWestlife)

Quote, originally posted by VWestlife »

And speaking of which, I'm surprised that on some vehicles, the odometer isn't displayed when the ignition is off.
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almost all vehicles made within the last 5-7 years do this and its a pain in my ass since i have to record mileage on vehicles at work. Chrysler (iirc) displays the miles for a few seconds when the door is opened, but nearly every other car you have to turn the key. even worse are the vehicles that tell you a door is open where the miles belong. soo frustruating http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
 
#38 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (Jettavr666)

Quote, originally posted by Jettavr666 »

bingo, and I like it, its extremly rare that you need a horn when the car isnt running, and it prevents accidenly hitting it when getting in or out.

Or if you're doing something else....cool that VW radios work with the key out! http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 
#39 ·
Re: anyone else think this is a problem? (JrodVW)

Quote, originally posted by JrodVW »

Everything except VW's


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#40 ·
Re: (adrew)

Quote, originally posted by adrew »
All of my cars I've ever had will honk with the car off...
'86 Trooper, '84 Accord, '99 Protegé, '96 Outback, '03 Civic, '07 Sonata

Same here, although 3 of my cars were Hondas, thus its probably just something Honda does, and the other was an old Datsun 810/Maxima.
I didn't know any cars disabled the horn when it's switched off. Do other cars disable the brake lights too? That's another thing I know works on my Civic and S2000 at least - the brake lights still come on when you hit the brake pedal, even when the key is not in the ignition.
 
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