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Audi Q4 e-Tron: Expensive VW ID.4 or Sexier VW ID.4? Neither? WDTCLT

  • It's more expensive VW ID.4

    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • It's more sexier VW ID.4

    Votes: 15 40.5%
  • Neither, it's more UNRELIABLE VW ID.4

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • How 'BOUT NO, Audi

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • I love it. Take my money!!!

    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • Hey Uber, where's the LOL WATT option?

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • Now this is THE gamechanger EV!

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SO what say you TCL? Is Q4 e-Tron yet another more expensive VW ID.4 or sexier and faster VW ID.4? Or is this a true gamechanger for Audi?

Also, it's supposed to have up to 300 miles of range (WTLP, I'm sure), which is about 70 miles more than its big brother e-Tron.

The Q4 E-Tron Sportback was also presented and it’s the first MEB crossover coupe.
Audi engineers may not be quite happy with the Q4 E-Tron. After all, and despite how elegant the designers managed to make it be, it is not much more than a fancy Volkswagen ID.4. The consolation prize for these guys could be in the Q4 E-Tron Sportback, which is the first production crossover coupe based on the MEB platform. Both made their world premiere this April 14.

Audi Q4 e-tron Sportback


The first vehicle to present this body type was the Volkswagen ID Crozz concept presented in April 2017 at the Auto Shanghai. Four years later, the Q4 E-Tron Sportback finally presents us what the production version of that car is.


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Audi’s electric crossover coupe presents the same dimensions as the regular version apart from its drag coefficient (0.26 instead of 0.28) and height (1.61 m against 1.63 m). Both measures should make the Q4 E-Tron Sportback more aerodynamic, which should help it be a more efficient vehicle despite offering 2 centimeters less headroom in the back seats.
Audi Q4 E-Tron Shows What A More Luxurious VW ID.4 Would Be

Apart from these differences, all Q4 E-Trons are 4.59 m long, 1.87 m wide, have a 2.76 m wheelbase, and can carry up to 520 liters of luggage. In the Sportback, an electric tailgate comes as standard. If you are wondering about towing, vehicles with Quattro drive can tow up to 1,200 kg (2,646 lb), with a nose weight of 75 kg (165 lb). Rear-wheel-drive cars have a turning circle of 10.2 meters.
Although the interior is miles away from that one in the ID.4, the Q4 E-Tron also offers the augmented reality head-up display that we have first seen in Volkswagen’s crossover. A heat pump is optional, which may sound strange in such premium cars.
Audi Q4 e-tron Sportback

Prices have already been defined in Europe: €41,900 for the Q4 35 E-Tron, with a 52 kWh of usable capacity (55 kWh with the battery buffer). The Q4 E-Tron Sportback should cost €2,000 more for each comparable derivative. To celebrate the premiere, the crossover will have the Edition One series, which will cost €6,195 more than the regular versions.
In terms of power, the entry-level Q4 E-Tron offers 168 hp (125 kW) only to the rear wheels. The Q4 35 can also have a stronger rear motor for 201 hp (150 kW). The flagships will be called Q4 50 and offer the Quattro drive with 295 hp (220 kW). The top speed is 180 km/h (112 mph) for all of them, but the Q4 50 takes only 6.2 seconds to go from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph).
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The largest battery pack offers both EVs 520 kilometers (323.1 miles) of range under the WLTP cycle. With 125 kW of fast charging capacity, they can recover 130 km (80.8 mi) of range in ten minutes.
All things considered, the Audi Q4 E-Tron and the Q4 E-Tron Sportback will appeal to brand fans or to those that think the ID.4 could be more sophisticated. For us to have a taste of Audi’s true concept for electric cars, we’ll have to wait for the Artemis, which is still some years away.
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Much better looking than the ID.4.

I'm curious to see if Audi offers this Aurora Violet color in North America. The one distinctive paint color on the ID.4 was a yellow metallic that VW declined to offer in North America.

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Also, VW removed the heat pump in the ID.4 for North American buyers, presumably to cut cost. I'd like to know if the U.S. spec Q4 comes with the heat pump from the Euro ID.4.
 

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I thought it was going to be smaller like Q3 but it is actually almost the same size as Q5. I'm actually quite interested as potential replacement for my SQ5... but I'm probably going to wait for the inevitable SQ4 with more powerful ID.4 GTX motors and bigger battery.
 

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I like this, particularly the Sportback, much better than the ID.4 inside and out. To be honest, I like the idea of the ID.4 but not particularly the appearance ... but this works.

One of the illustrations indicate that the Sportback has Cd = 0.26, which is better than ID.4 (0.28), so one would expect highway range to be a smidge better with this. (possible confirmation: Audi’s Q4 e-tron is its cheapest, smallest, longest-range electric vehicle yet, to rival Tesla’s Model Y - Sportback gets 9 km more range - but the longest-range version, with only two wheel drive, won't show up in Canada).
 

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Also, VW removed the heat pump in the ID.4 for North American buyers, presumably to cut cost. I'd like to know if the U.S. spec Q4 comes with the heat pump from the Euro ID.4.
This really sucks given the ID.4's price point. The heat pump really adds efficiency and range vs. a grid heater. I've been surprised at how little range loss there has been with the e-Golf during winter vs. our former Bolt.

If the Q4 leases well, I think it will be a very strong seller.
 

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The ID.4 looks better - cleaner and better proportions
I like ID.4's exterior styling. I just don't like that the ID.4 interior looks and feels like this:

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Says the guy who's e-Tron is still in the shop after three weeks,. :sick:
 

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Canadian Prices:
MY22 Q4 50 e-tron quattro
Komfort: from $59,950
Progressiv: from $65,350
Technik: from $68,350

MY22 Q4 Sportback 50 e-tron quattro
Progressive: from $67,600
Technik: from $70,600

For Comparison:
VW ID.4 AWD Pro
Base: $49,995
Statement Package: $57,995
The ID.4 qualifies for a $5K Federal discount
 
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