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I posted a couple of pics earlier, but wanted to do a more
detailed write up of my suspension install.
I really like my GLI, but the ride height was really annoying me,
looked like some sort of 4x4. I really like the ride in the GLI,
firm but not harsh, so was looking for lowering rather than that
'on rails' feeling of some aftermarket suspensions.
I talked with Mike at B+G Suspensionshttp://www.b-gsuspension.com/home.shtml
and it seems that they are offering just what I was looking for. A
'sport' spring offering around 1.3" to 1.5" of lowering without a significantly
stiffer spring (mike estimated around 25%). B+G have been doing springs
and coilover for years, and after asking around at a local euro meet,
I received uniformly positive reviews, this counts for alot to me, especially
from people who where actually running B+G products on their cars.
This is the obligatory before shot

I had coilovers on my previous car (R32) and that proved to me that I
am not the type of person to play around with ride height etc, so I
figured I would go the cheaper springs only route on the GLI.
The install guides listed in the FAQ here are very useful references.
Having installed an uninstalled mkiv suspensions, I was hoping that there
would be away around removing the drivers side axle, but I was wrong.
Before I started the install I was planning on running around to find
the 14mm triple square needed to remove the bolt from the knuckes. I chanced
upon a Snap-On truck about 1/3 mile from my house, stopped and asked and
scored a great little VW kit for around $70-80.
This ! contains spreader and M14 + other goodies.



The fronts of a MkV are definitely more involved than the mkiv, having
to remove the axle is the most significant difference.
We figured the backs would be easy so we started with the fronts,
passenger first, then driver. Its relatively simple job, but a little
time consuming, a little easier with two people, and air tools are
definitely a plus, although not required.
Did not need to remove axle on passenger side, but it took some wriggling
to clear the knuckle, even with the ball joint disconnected from the arm.
Looking out, passenger front, 3 ball joint nuts

Stock front suspenison (passenger side)

Front spring comparrison

B+G spring installed on front

The drivers side ended up being a bit quicker, even with the time to tap
out the axle. Probably as a result of having learned from the passenger side.
Be careful with the axle out, the hub/disc assembly is heavy and will fall
and possibly damage some of the electrical sensors (ABS/brake pad wear etc)
if not handled carfully. Finger can easily be squashed here.
NOTE : remove the lower bolts for both the HID levellers before you
start the strut(front) or spring removal (rear), If you leave them connected
you stand a good chance of damaging them.
The rears are a piece of cake. We used a jack to compress the arm/spring to
prefvent the inevitable 'explosion' that occurs if the lower bolt is
removed while the spring is under tension. Similarly used the jack to compress
the new spring and reinstall the lower bolt.
Rear spring comparrison

B+G spring installed on rear

I would estimate that the fronts took about 3 hours total, and the rears took
about 30mins total.
This is the sort of job I don't really enjoy, but its nice when its done

So the results....
Profile after

Front after

Rear after

I am really happy with the look, I need to recheck, but I think it dropped
35mm front, and 45mm rear. The car still has a little rake, back to front,
but its reduced slightly and the whole car has a more aggressive look.
Its by no means slammed, I can get 2 fingers between tire and fender, front and back.
My wife drove it to the store when I got back, and her response was a slighly
hesitant "I can't notice any difference". Perfect ! Honestly I think I can
notice that the suspension is slighly taughter (as expected) but
by no means harsh. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
I'll save a more detailed "impressions" till later, but after the first few miles
I am very happy with the outcome.
B+G are going to offer GLI/GTI springs (at least, maybe more) so give them a
call as I think they are in the process of adding them to their product list.
P.S Mike has a MkIII with a ton of work in it. Very impressive, but thats another
story.
 

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So you left the stock dampers/shocks on?
I know on MK4's this will cause the shock to wear out quicker and provide a bouncy ride.
Are the stock MK5 dampers different in that they can take a mild drop without acting up or wearing out?
BTW the drop looks great!!!!
 

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Re: (XM_Rocks)

Quote, originally posted by XM_Rocks »

Are the stock MK5 dampers different in that they can take a mild drop without acting up or wearing out?

no, people with GLIs have reported a drop on stock dampers is bouncy. on my VE's stock dampers and neuspeed springs its really noticable vs. the stock springs. not harsh at all, just bouncy.
 

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Re: (aychseven)

Quote, originally posted by aychseven »
no, people with GLIs have reported a drop on stock dampers is bouncy. on my VE's stock dampers and neuspeed springs its really noticable vs. the stock springs. not harsh at all, just bouncy.

I am one of them. It's fine for hte first few weeks, then the OEM stock sachs struts go downhill fast.
Check the faq here at the top of the forum, suspension install. I added some extra install notes on page 2 of the install.
 

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How is the performance and handling after the install. My MKIV sucked rocks on H&R's after about 3 months...I am really debating whether to drop my MKV or not. I forgot what a nice ride feels like.
 

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Re: (syntrix)

Quote, originally posted by syntrix »
I am one of them. It's fine for hte first few weeks, then the OEM stock sachs struts go downhill fast.
Check the faq here at the top of the forum, suspension install. I added some extra install notes on page 2 of the install.
Damn I was hoping to get away with using the stock shocks. Guess I better start saving.
 

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Looks good, Scoop! Gotta bring it out this Wednesday to show her off!
Have you got 1000 miles on the motor yet? Still looking forward to feeling a nice WOT blast through the gears! http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
 

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Re: B+G Sport Springs install on GLI , lots of pics (scoopR32)

Another susp. post just reminded me to update this.
About 3 weeks and 500+ miles later, no bounce here.
Very happy with the result, car looks great now, and handles well.
http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif to B+G from me
 
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