Guess I'm no longer required to stop and help when I run one over, then.
I think...Why does it seem like cyclists get preferred treatment over automobiles when it comes to this kind of thing? If I treated stop signs as yield signs in my automobile I'd get pulled over all the time. They want to share the road with cars but then they want special treatment, seems like they should have to follow the same rules.
Furthermore, some feds are trying to make this kind of thing a federal law.
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Fed Safety Administrator: Let’s Legalize the ‘Idaho Stop’
One of the Biden Administration’s top road safety officials has come out in favor of legalizing the so-called “Idaho stop,” which allows cyclists to treat stop signs as yield sign…usa.streetsblog.org
What thinks TCL?
Seems that we see a cyclist hit on purpose about once a week by someone angry in a car, locally. Laws like this have the potential to be a good thing overall, but only act as fuel to those who already have an issue with cyclists.I think...
... it's much better idea than allowing performance car owners to buy a get out of jail card to drive recklessly.
... there are much, much, much bigger safety issues on the road to get angry about than cyclists being allowed to roll through stop signs thousands of miles away from you.
... bikes travel at much lower speeds than cars, and are much less dangerous than cars, so this is fine.
I already do this on my road bike. Knock on wood no incidents yet.
It depends on the situation, but I typically stop. If it's the middle of nowhere and there are no cars and good visibility, I'll slow roll it. I treat empty red lights as stop signs as well, because those rarely work for cyclists. I get the idea though, I guess. It's hard to get that Strava KOM if you keep stopping. But think of the interval training you'd lose out on. Man. What to do? WHAT TO DO?I already do this on my road bike. Knock on wood no incidents yet.
That comes back to my broader issue of non-enforcement. ****'s getting worse on American roads because drivers know they can do whatever they want basically without consequence, including run over cyclists. I think there would be a lot less road rage and animosity on the roads if everybody knew everyone else was being held accountable.Seems that we see a cyclist hit on purpose about once a week by someone angry in a car, locally. Laws like this have the potential to be a good thing overall, but only act as fuel to those who already have an issue with cyclists.
Garmin makes a rear mounted radar light + camera now, but it only helps if the state requires a front plate.I think there would be a lot less road rage and animosity on the roads if everybody knew everyone else was being held accountable.
I have absolutely no idea how these people survive.I have ridden with roadies that will just blow through busy intersections at 20+mph though, but I have no idea how they're still surviving with that bad habit.
Driving is a privilege, yes.Itt: people sitting in climate controlled cages can’t fathom waiting 3 seconds for a cyclist to go through an intersection.
For the drivers opposed to privileged cyclists, roads for cars are much more expensive, exclusionary, and dangerous than paths for bikes. Fuel tax and registration also don’t even come close to paying for ‘car infrastructure.’
Pedestrians also have priority right of way over motorists, yet how many of you actually stop for pedestrians? Criminals, the lot of you.
Seems like you’re the privileged ones!
There are good reasons for preferred treatment:Why does it seem like cyclists get preferred treatment over automobiles when it comes to this kind of thing? If I treated stop signs as yield signs in my automobile I'd get pulled over all the time. They want to share the road with cars but then they want special treatment, seems like they should have to follow the same rules.
Furthermore, some feds are trying to make this kind of thing a federal law.
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Fed Safety Administrator: Let’s Legalize the ‘Idaho Stop’
One of the Biden Administration’s top road safety officials has come out in favor of legalizing the so-called “Idaho stop,” which allows cyclists to treat stop signs as yield sign…usa.streetsblog.org
What thinks TCL?
Ride your bike in any city center at 5:30pm and see how preferred you feel after.Why does it seem like cyclists get preferred treatment over automobiles
Why does it seem like cyclists get preferred treatment over automobiles when it comes to this kind of thing? If I treated stop signs as yield signs in my automobile I'd get pulled over all the time. They want to share the road with cars but then they want special treatment, seems like they should have to follow the same rules.
Furthermore, some feds are trying to make this kind of thing a federal law.
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Fed Safety Administrator: Let’s Legalize the ‘Idaho Stop’
One of the Biden Administration’s top road safety officials has come out in favor of legalizing the so-called “Idaho stop,” which allows cyclists to treat stop signs as yield sign…usa.streetsblog.org
What thinks TCL?
Exactly. I stop riding with the guys who blow through stop signs, cutting off cars. That's the behavior that gets people killed.The key here is that cyclists should still YIELD at stop signs if there is other traffic. Personally, I will roll through a stop sign if there is no traffic around (with a careful look first), but I will yield/stop as necessary if there is other traffic.
I would love wider shoulders but realistically that's a lot of asphalt that wouldn't get much use. And traffic is overflowing because there are just more cars/people on the roads. I'm thankful to have 2-3 roads nearby that are ideal for traffic even though they are only 2-4 mile stretches I have to do loops on.So much aggravation could be solved if roads just had 6' shoulders. That's where I prefer to ride. Every time. And Waze/Google has made things so much worse on us, since now overflow traffic is appearing on the sleepy little backroads that I used to specifically seek out.
I'm mainly talking about semi-rural areas. There are plenty of roads on the west side of my county that don't have a ton of traffic volume, but more than makes me comfortable when the speed limit is 50mph. That means people actually do 65+ on them. Give me a shoulder, and I'd be able to use it for short stretches, rather than crafting a route that tries to avoid it at all costs.I would love wider shoulders but realistically that's a lot of asphalt that wouldn't get much use. And traffic is overflowing because there are just more cars/people on the roads. I'm thankful to have 2-3 roads nearby that are ideal for traffic even though they are only 2-4 mile stretches I have to do loops on.