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Blind Spot/Convex Mirrors

Tired of blind spot and glare?
Suma Performance Mirrors are your solution. We've been in the business more than 20 years, making performance mirrors for more than 100+ cars. Suma Performance mirrors are 1. wide angle convex, 2. anti-glare, and 3. water repellent. These are OEM replacement and easy to install.

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"There’s not much to say except, worth it! I received these mirrors and the first thing I noticed is the excellent clarity and attention to build quality, pretty much OEM standards. The reduced glare and wider visibility is well worth the price of admission!... The online pictures just don’t do it justice. If you are on the fence about buying a set, don’t be, it’s worth it!"- Bobby from L.A.

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Customer Installation Review (different car but same quality):

 

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Improved field of view.

Top picture is the OEM mirror. Below is Suma Performance mirror. Can you tell the difference?
The red area is the increased field of view.

 

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Do you give a lifetime warranty on your products?
I only ask because ive had the ecs ones in the past and as usual for there products they were junk. the blue started to get funny after about a year.
Also your price is much higher than most companies who make these, your price on sale is at the cost of oem mirrors.
What makes yours that much different to justify the price?
Ive never heard of your company so im just curious.

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Do you give a lifetime warranty on your products?
I only ask because ive had the ecs ones in the past and as usual for there products they were junk. the blue started to get funny after about a year.
Also your price is much higher than most companies who make these, your price on sale is at the cost of oem mirrors.
What makes yours that much different to justify the price?
Ive never heard of your company so im just curious.

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@caddtalent, these are valid questions. Conventional mirrors use vacuum coating method that the blue coating eventual fades as you have noticed, whereas Suma Performance uses SOGEL coating method, which is our proprietary/trade secret, to ensure the coating does not fade and provides better anti-glare effect. We also use premium optical glass to provide clear, wide angle view.

If you take good care of the mirror, they will definitely last a long time. When you clean the mirrors, make sure you rinse off the dirts off the surface first (so they don't scratch the surface), followed by using regular car detergent. Here are some comments from our happy customer: https://www.sumaperformance.com/pages/reviews
 

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@caddtalent, these are valid questions. Conventional mirrors use vacuum coating method that the blue coating eventual fades as you have noticed, whereas Suma Performance uses SOGEL coating method, which is our proprietary/trade secret, to ensure the coating does not fade and provides better anti-glare effect. We also use premium optical glass to provide clear, wide angle view.

If you take good care of the mirror, they will definitely last a long time. When you clean the mirrors, make sure you rinse off the dirts off the surface first (so they don't scratch the surface), followed by using regular car detergent. Here are some comments from our happy customer: https://www.sumaperformance.com/pages/reviews
Might i ask where they are made?
Im assuming if preordered we wont be billed until they ship?

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You also did not answer my question on warranty. Your website just says 100% satisfaction guaranteed, sorry but thats not a warranty.
I want to know if within a year it starts to fall apart will you replace them?
I also can find no reviews of your products anywhere not even on facebook, just your "happy customers" on your fancy web page. I do not trust web page reviews, id love to see other reviews from other sources if possible

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You also did not answer my question on warranty. Your website just says 100% satisfaction guaranteed, sorry but thats not a warranty.
I want to know if within a year it starts to fall apart will you replace them?
I also can find no reviews of your products anywhere not even on facebook, just your "happy customers" on your fancy web page. I do not trust web page reviews, id love to see other reviews from other sources if possible

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We'll replace them if they start falling apart within a year (but they won't happen :))

Here is a review on Model 3 on a Tesla Forum. Here is a review link, post#165: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/blind-spot-convex-mirrors.159096/page-9
 

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????

Sale is still going on for a few more days.
I am interested in these mirrors, but your answers are suspicious. Can you tell us:

Why are you charging upon receipt of orders instead of the normal process of charging when shipped?

When will the mirrors be available???
 

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I am interested in these mirrors, but your answers are suspicious. Can you tell us:

Why are you charging upon receipt of orders instead of the normal process of charging when shipped?

When will the mirrors be available???
I agree, theres to much about the company and no answers on questions, just sale pitches.
Im actually going to just buy oem ones as they are the same price and factory quality.
I also ordered kdx anti glare kit and going to tint my interior review mirror and side mirrors.
These mirrors have no warranty and made in Taiwan. Id stay away personally.
There also preorder but charging you before they are even being shipped.
They might look nice but even the reviews are only on there website no where else.
Buy from a reputable company

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I agree, theres to much about the company and no answers on questions, just sale pitches.
Im actually going to just buy oem ones as they are the same price and factory quality.
I also ordered kdx anti glare kit and going to tint my interior review mirror and side mirrors.
These mirrors have no warranty and made in Taiwan. Id stay away personally.
There also preorder but charging you before they are even being shipped.
They might look nice but even the reviews are only on there website no where else.
Buy from a reputable company

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Do you have a part number on the OEM mirrors? Do they include the blind spot warning light?
 

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Do you have a part number on the OEM mirrors? Do they include the blind spot warning light?
This is the oem part #5G0857522AKT

They do not have blind spot monitoring, im going to assume there's a reason they don't idk.
Im not sure if vw makes a set or not with blind spot.

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Sorry for not timely responding some questions, was on a business trip in Asia. Some MK7/7.5 folks are receiving their mirrors soon next week or so, and I'm sure they will post their reviews here. You can see reviews on Suma Performance mirrors on https://www.civicx.com/threads/suma-performance-anti-glare-mirrors.37940/ and https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/blind-spot-convex-mirrors.159096/page-9

For the new pre-orders, people will receive them in Mid-November (for 20% off). We wanted to make sure there is enough of interest before we manufacture them. The 20% off is showing our appreciation for the wait. Suma Performance is our own brand, which is new. But we have manufactured for other big brands they sell for much higher prices (You know who they are but can't say their names because of NDA agreement).

The reason other companies buy from us is because we do manufacture quality blindside convex mirrors: 1. Premium convex (using high-end optical glass, imported from Japan, that produces clear/crisp images) 2. water repellent and 3. Blue tint does not easily fade like other brands.

Taiwan manufactures quality products. Where do you think our iPhone parts and car performance parts are manufactured from? Don't trust our words on our quality. Just read these reviews. https://www.civicx.com/threads/suma-performance-anti-glare-mirrors.37940/and https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/blind-spot-convex-mirrors.159096/.
 

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Sorry for not timely responding some questions, was on a business trip in Asia. Some MK7/7.5 folks are receiving their mirrors soon next week or so, and I'm sure they will post their reviews here. You can see reviews on Suma Performance mirrors on https://www.civicx.com/threads/suma-performance-anti-glare-mirrors.37940/ and https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/blind-spot-convex-mirrors.159096/page-9

For the new pre-orders, people will receive them in Mid-November (for 20% off). We wanted to make sure there is enough of interest before we manufacture them. The 20% off is showing our appreciation for the wait. Suma Performance is our own brand, which is new. But we have manufactured for other big brands they sell for much higher prices (You know who they are but can't say their names because of NDA agreement).

The reason other companies buy from us is because we do manufacture quality blindside convex mirrors: 1. Premium convex (using high-end optical glass, imported from Japan, that produces clear/crisp images) 2. water repellent and 3. Blue tint does not easily fade like other brands.

Taiwan manufactures quality products. Where do you think our iPhone parts and car performance parts are manufactured from? Don't trust our words on our quality. Just read these reviews. https://www.civicx.com/threads/suma-performance-anti-glare-mirrors.37940/and https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/blind-spot-convex-mirrors.159096/.
Taiwan is just as much crap as what china produces.
Iphones = crap anyway. Electronics are hard to stray from with such manufacturing bit no not all car parts are Taiwan or china so that is a very false statement.
You still have yet to provide answers to questions asked. You keep saying to read the few reviews but im more interested in over time not the fart can owner who just put them on and wrote a review.
For the price you are charging people are still better off buying a factory oem part.

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