Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification
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Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (alphaDUB)
Including cost of the car itself?
I would say any of the late 80s/early 90s Chrysler turbo products would be contenders, as would a 5.0 Mustang.
Including cost of the car itself?
I would say any of the late 80s/early 90s Chrysler turbo products would be contenders, as would a 5.0 Mustang.
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (CanuckPal)
Quik in a straight line, or around a road course, or an autocross? Including the cost of the car or not? How fast do you want to go? 10s in the 1/4 mile or 13s? Quick in Street Modified or in T2?
Quik in a straight line, or around a road course, or an autocross? Including the cost of the car or not? How fast do you want to go? 10s in the 1/4 mile or 13s? Quick in Street Modified or in T2?
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Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (alphaDUB)
1979 malibu 2dr, chuck in a used 350 chevy and 3.73 axle and run 13's all day.
total cost under 2,500
1979 malibu 2dr, chuck in a used 350 chevy and 3.73 axle and run 13's all day.
total cost under 2,500
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (alphaDUB)
Including the cost of a decent used car for starting point:
• Fox Body Mustang 5.0
• Gen5 Honda Civic
Car cost not a factor, just mods:
• Any 1.8T VW or Audi
• WRX
[Modified by Sporin, 2:27 PM 11-28-2001]
Including the cost of a decent used car for starting point:
• Fox Body Mustang 5.0
• Gen5 Honda Civic
Car cost not a factor, just mods:
• Any 1.8T VW or Audi
• WRX
[Modified by Sporin, 2:27 PM 11-28-2001]
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (Sporin)
From scratch? Get a Fox body Mustang and work from there. Want to road race or something, work with a 302 based engine. Want to drag race, get a big block. Tons of suspension parts available too. Almost all turbo cars are very tuneable. It all depends on how fast you want to go though.
From scratch? Get a Fox body Mustang and work from there. Want to road race or something, work with a 302 based engine. Want to drag race, get a big block. Tons of suspension parts available too. Almost all turbo cars are very tuneable. It all depends on how fast you want to go though.
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (Crazyquik)
Since he said quickest, I'd go with a big block Fox body. Start with a $400 4 cyl car in decent shape, drop in a 460/C6 combo from a $500 beat-up-but-drive-it-home '69-70 big Ford/Mercury/lincoln (including the radiator and possibly rear end if you can have someone fit it. Buy a basic Currie 9" housing if not for cheap and drop the center section you would have into it...). Very likely you would be doing low 13s for that sub$1000 investment. Sell the extra bits to recoup some of that. Port the exhaust of the heads and add headers and carb work, and you can do mid 12s for another $500. With gears and slicks, and a bit more work, low 12s to high 11s are within grasp for a total of under $2500. Maybe grab a nitrous kit, and try for low 11s...
Due to the low cost of a Ford 460 and trans package, little else can match the quick-per-dollar of this combo.
Since he said quickest, I'd go with a big block Fox body. Start with a $400 4 cyl car in decent shape, drop in a 460/C6 combo from a $500 beat-up-but-drive-it-home '69-70 big Ford/Mercury/lincoln (including the radiator and possibly rear end if you can have someone fit it. Buy a basic Currie 9" housing if not for cheap and drop the center section you would have into it...). Very likely you would be doing low 13s for that sub$1000 investment. Sell the extra bits to recoup some of that. Port the exhaust of the heads and add headers and carb work, and you can do mid 12s for another $500. With gears and slicks, and a bit more work, low 12s to high 11s are within grasp for a total of under $2500. Maybe grab a nitrous kit, and try for low 11s...
Due to the low cost of a Ford 460 and trans package, little else can match the quick-per-dollar of this combo.
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How about a cheap '90 Miata. Put in new suspension, cold air intake, Flyin Miata III Turbo, header, better exhaust, Link ECU..... and ..... last but not least ..... NO FEAR OF DEATH!
Seriously... the modded Miata's are scary. 2000lbs car putting down 300+ RWHP. Plus, very very few cars handle as well as a Miata. Very few.
J.
Then again... a nice Scorocco (sp?) is a fun car to drive, when modified.
Seriously... the modded Miata's are scary. 2000lbs car putting down 300+ RWHP. Plus, very very few cars handle as well as a Miata. Very few.
J.
Then again... a nice Scorocco (sp?) is a fun car to drive, when modified.
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (alphaDUB)
1G eclipse GSX.. you can get one for like 2 or 3 grand in good shape.. the trouble with them there would be keeping them from breaking.. but you can get them super fast for not much cash
1G eclipse GSX.. you can get one for like 2 or 3 grand in good shape.. the trouble with them there would be keeping them from breaking.. but you can get them super fast for not much cash
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (Chris V)
I'd go with a big block Fox body. Start with a $400 4 cyl car in decent shape
u mean 4 cyl fox body mustang?
What about datsun 510? What are common setups in those.
I'd go with a big block Fox body. Start with a $400 4 cyl car in decent shape
u mean 4 cyl fox body mustang?
What about datsun 510? What are common setups in those.
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (alphaDUB)
510's arent as cheap as some of the cars mentioned... and making em fast usually requires an engine swap w/ some fabrication.
around the autoX or road course, i'd think a gen5 civic hatch would be pretty quick with a swap but B-series engines are really overpriced right now.
510's arent as cheap as some of the cars mentioned... and making em fast usually requires an engine swap w/ some fabrication.
around the autoX or road course, i'd think a gen5 civic hatch would be pretty quick with a swap but B-series engines are really overpriced right now.
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (alphaDUB)
Ah yes, the 510. Most common set-ups include a 13B rotary, KA24DE, and VG30's just to name a few. However, I discourage the use of 510's because theyre getting rare. People buy them, cut 'em up, and dont finish theyre projects.
So, I say get a 1st gen RX-7 if you plan to autocross. But if you straight-line speed is what you're after, go for a 5.0. Mmmm... big.
quote:[HR][/HR]What about datsun 510? What are common setups in those. [HR][/HR]
\Ah yes, the 510. Most common set-ups include a 13B rotary, KA24DE, and VG30's just to name a few. However, I discourage the use of 510's because theyre getting rare. People buy them, cut 'em up, and dont finish theyre projects.
So, I say get a 1st gen RX-7 if you plan to autocross. But if you straight-line speed is what you're after, go for a 5.0. Mmmm... big.
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Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (alphaDUB)
'95 Supra turbo. Practically anything you touch under the hood will have it belching out another 50hp.
'95 Supra turbo. Practically anything you touch under the hood will have it belching out another 50hp.
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (anarchyx34)
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Find a 1st gen RX7 GSL-SE.
Install a "Cartech" T4 turbo kit, boost controller($10-$45 for manual controller), and higher output fuel injectors, small street port ($250).
Slap on some slicks, and that setup will get you into the 12s
Spray a 75 shot of N02, and you will shave even more time.
Plus, a GSL-SE with sticky tires and racing springs will pull a full lateral G.
Of course, a Mustang 5.0 can just take lots and lots of N02 (but it gets expensive).
quote:[HR][/HR]'95 Supra turbo. Practically anything you touch under the hood will have it belching out another 50hp.[HR][/HR]
$16,000 starting price is the kicker, though
Find a 1st gen RX7 GSL-SE.
Install a "Cartech" T4 turbo kit, boost controller($10-$45 for manual controller), and higher output fuel injectors, small street port ($250).
Slap on some slicks, and that setup will get you into the 12s
Spray a 75 shot of N02, and you will shave even more time.
Plus, a GSL-SE with sticky tires and racing springs will pull a full lateral G.
Of course, a Mustang 5.0 can just take lots and lots of N02 (but it gets expensive).
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (matt007)
stock 5.0 bottom end will live under a 200 shot, they have factory forged pistons. I've seen guys spraying 250 on the stock bottom end but that gets sketchy, you definently need a main girdle at that power level, if not a race block.
stock 5.0 bottom end will live under a 200 shot, they have factory forged pistons. I've seen guys spraying 250 on the stock bottom end but that gets sketchy, you definently need a main girdle at that power level, if not a race block.
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Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (Crazyquik)
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I lost you after the stock part
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J/K <or maybe not
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quote:[HR][/HR]stock 5.0 bottom end will live under a 200 shot, they have factory forged pistons. I've seen guys spraying 250 on the stock bottom end but that gets sketchy, you definently need a main girdle at that power level, if not a race block.[HR][/HR]
I definitely don't know what you are talking about
J/K <or maybe not
Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (simple)
Thats ok, I have no clue what RJetta is speaking about here:
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But what I said was the stock 302 pistons, rods, and crank are good for a 200 shot of nitrous stock as long as you dont get any detonation. The pistons are forged from the factory as opposed to cast. Car Craft built up a 302 for like 3500 bucks last year and made over 630 hp on the dyno with a 250 shot. But at that level the block itself becomes a liability too, the main bearing caps start to shift so a main girdle that ties them together is a good investment. Or even a factory race block.
Thats ok, I have no clue what RJetta is speaking about here:
quote:[HR][/HR]You know, I was originally thinking of puttin in a KA24DE, but these cars are getting really rare. I think I'm gonna put in the L20b I got sitting in the garage in it. I just found out today that my L16 has an SSS cylinder head. [HR][/HR]
But what I said was the stock 302 pistons, rods, and crank are good for a 200 shot of nitrous stock as long as you dont get any detonation. The pistons are forged from the factory as opposed to cast. Car Craft built up a 302 for like 3500 bucks last year and made over 630 hp on the dyno with a 250 shot. But at that level the block itself becomes a liability too, the main bearing caps start to shift so a main girdle that ties them together is a good investment. Or even a factory race block.
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Re: Car with the most cost efficient potential for modification (Crazyquik)
Over here, it's any Cleveland-engined local Ford ('70-'82). Easy to find, pretty cheap to buy (though not as cheap as it once was), plenty of parts, and indestructible. And in stock form, a perfectly good basis (powertrain and suspension) to build on.
Over here, it's any Cleveland-engined local Ford ('70-'82). Easy to find, pretty cheap to buy (though not as cheap as it once was), plenty of parts, and indestructible. And in stock form, a perfectly good basis (powertrain and suspension) to build on.
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