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Re: Civic Type R Vs VR6 same old story (momosport1)

There are many cars in europe wearing the "gti" logo's. It's not especially directed at the golf GTI, but the whole "gti" class of cars. That ad is not from the u.s. It's a civic type R( the new civic si coming out is still not the same as the euro type R), not available in the states. Lawsuit? yeah right. VW did not invent or coin "gti". VW maybe started the hot hatch thing here, but not in europe or japan.
 
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quote:[HR][/HR]I don't get it - That Civic is slower than a 1.8T GTI.. So where is the bye-bye part fit in?[HR][/HR]​
Read the post above you!
 
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quote:[HR][/HR]I don't get it - That Civic is slower than a 1.8T GTI.. So where is the bye-bye part fit in?[HR][/HR]​
Oh dear!
Another misguided individual...that CTR will kick the Golf GTI into touch in every area of performance...I can assure you...i've driven one.
Most magazines have tested it at about 6.3-6.5 seconds to 60MPH...I don't see too many 1.8Ts doing that.
As a point of interest...that car is the performance bargain of the decade - there is nothing to touch it for pure performance, for that price. Period.
It may not be the best built, or best looking...but in performace terms there's not a Golf out at the moment that can hold a candle to it...4-Motion included. Fact.
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maybe it'll encourage vw to get their 24v vr6 w/6 speed out earlier, if its lighter tha nthe current mk 4's it'll be wiping its ass with civics
btw, the new civics look like minivans, people hate them so much the previous generation body style has gone up in value, also, chec kou; that hatch spoiler http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif


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Re: Civic Type R Vs VR6 same old story (momosport1)

That is an English ad, and it's referring to either the Peugeot 306 GTi, or the 307 GTi.
 
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quote:[HR][/HR]maybe it'll encourage vw to get their 24v vr6 w/6 speed out earlier, if its lighter tha nthe current mk 4's it'll be wiping its ass with civics
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Well it's already out here...albeit with 4wd...and the CTR will still wipe the floor with it. There is no way any Mk4 will ever be less weight than that Civic...face it.

quote:[HR][/HR]That is an English ad, and it's referring to either the Peugeot 306 GTi, or the 307 GTi.[HR][/HR]​
Actually it's a British add

...and it IS refering to the golf GTI as well as the ones you mentioned, as well as many others.
If you read the add correctly you will have noticed that they are talking about the demise of the GTI catagory....this includes the Golf does it not?
I just can't understand why some of you can't accept that Honda has built a better standard performance car...why is this so hard to swallow?
The Golf GTI can't compete with the CTR on pure performance...even in its 180BHP 6 speed guise...even the 24v V6 fails as a drivers car...a grand tourer maybe...but not a true hot hatch.
OK...it's not up to VW build quality, but it is a rear drivers car...and anyone who has the chance, and the balls to try one, will find out.
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Well the Eurotrash Turbo Rabbit will still smoke it even with out a turbo 14s in the 1/4 and pulling .91 G's so you know what Bye Bye SI. Oh and the Rabbit will outbrake it too.


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Just read the current Car & Driver, they had a comparo on the Civic Si vs. the GTI vs. the Focus SVT.
The US-spec Civic Si only has 160 hp. In C&D's tests, the GTI 1.8T was a second and a half faster to 60 than the Civic Si. That said, the GTI came in last in the test due mostly to the handling it seemed. The GTI was faster than either the Civic Si or the Focus SVT.
Now the Civic Type R is another story but we're not getting that one in the US just yet.


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quote:[HR][/HR]Just read the current Car & Driver, they had a comparo on the Civic Si vs. the GTI vs. the Focus SVT.
The US-spec Civic Si only has 160 hp. In C&D's tests, the GTI 1.8T was a second and a half faster to 60 than the Civic Si. That said, the GTI came in last in the test due mostly to the handling it seemed. The GTI was faster than either the Civic Si or the Focus SVT.
Now the Civic Type R is another story but we're not getting that one in the US just yet.

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I know that's soo funny! And the GTI still did better on the skid pad than the Si !!
 
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That pic looks like a 2 door Chrysler minivan with fancy wheels. Just because it's fast doesn't mean I'd want to drive it. http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif
 
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quote:[HR][/HR] Its fast, its cheap, and its coming to the US this year or next. I'm kinda pissed about it specs. It beats out my RSX.
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Acctually, the Civic Type-R is slower than a RSX by 0.01 sec. It weighs more than a Type-S. Did You also know that the base RSX runs 15.9 sec 1/4 mile!? Faster than the new Si! Compared to 16.2 in a Civic Si. WEIGHT, is the reason. The new Civic may be one of the worst attempts to copy a Ford Focus, silly Honda. I personally think they should've put the 2.0 i-VTEC in the EX Coupe, added the same '99 Si blue, and the RSX' 6sp gearbox! Now then maybe I would buy one. But the new crappy Si... for $19,000!!!??? Hell no. I'll rather take a $13,000 Ford Focus, add some mods, and stomp the silly Si.
 
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