Console mounted shifters

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strlen

Discussion Starter · Nov 29, 2001

I know this picture may be a bit hard to see:

But the new Civic Si, includes a shifter placed at the console.. there's somewhat of a debate going on in the Mk. IV VW forum, about the usefulness of that setup. Would anyone here have an opinion on that? I've believe other cars included that, there's an old Volvo parked near my house which includes such a setup. Anyone ever drive a car with a shifter in that position?

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matt007

· #2 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (strlen)

Many old vans used that kind of setup.
I can see why it may be more comfortable, because its so close to the wheel, but I wouldn't want to take off the dash to fool with the shifter

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A4Jetta

· #3 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (strlen)

I have experienced the column mounted "Sequential sportmatic" shifter in both Honda Stream and Odyssey. I don't see there's problem of its not ergonomically correct. It falls right at hand. This is a position that the armrest won't block your hand.

ClownCar

· #4 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (strlen)

I'm surprised that since everyone in the MkIV forum is a race car driver, they haven't noticed that this type of set-up is very common in WRC and touring cars.

Meaning, it must be cool...and people will soon be finding ways of attaching shifters to their Golf and Jetta dashboards.

Mark my word...it'll happen.

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A4Jetta

· #5 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (ClownCar)

quote:[HR][/HR]Meaning, it must be cool...and people will soon be finding ways of attaching shifters to their Golf and Jetta dashboards.

Mark my word...it'll happen.[HR][/HR]

It will create dash rattles and dealers are going to void their warranty.

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GTI-Gabe

· #6 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (strlen)

Like Matt07 mentioned, many old vans had it, and still currently do, just
not in North America (I guess since we mostly prefer automatics).
The following three MPVs (minivans) have the in-dash shifter, the Citroen
Evasion, the Honda Stream and the Misubishi Space Wagon.
This is the Honda pic:

This is the Mitsu:

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Eolair

· #7 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (strlen)

The reviews here have been very positive about the Civic shifter, especially in the Type R. Very short and direct.
I have driven such a setup in a Mercedes Sprinter. Very car like to drive, but you could feel there´s are complicated mechanics attached to it. Much better than a looong shifter on the floor. Unfortunately, the console didn´t stand the gravity.

Flavourless

· #8 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (Eolair)

i saw a the honda with there dash mounted shifter...reminds me of a video game/joystick/space ship.......pointless and straight up ugly http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif http://****************.com/smile/emthdown.gif

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Silly_me

· #9 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (strlen)

Jeebus, all you "car enthisiast" in one thread about console mounted shifters and no one mentioned the bloody Alfa Spider?

And yes, the shifter on the console is great for driving (especially if you've got 1st on the dog leg) but it fubchucks the rest of the cars ergonomics.

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David Votoupal

· #10 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (Silly_me)

True, minivans have a console shifters while many have column shift. Nothing wrong with that. Surely you don't mind going back to dashboard or pushbutton shifters

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Dobolina

· #11 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (Euro Flavor)

quote:[HR][/HR]i saw a the honda with there dash mounted shifter...reminds me of a video game/joystick/space ship.......[HR][/HR]

This is a bad thing?

dmc

· #12 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (ClownCar)

quote:[HR][/HR]I'm surprised that since everyone in the MkIV forum is a race car driver, they haven't noticed that this type of set-up is very common in WRC and touring cars.

[HR][/HR]

WRC drivers also sit 1" away from the steering wheel, but judging from the number of drivers still sporting the gangsta lean today, I doubt this will ever be cool.

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mutcth

· #13 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (Silly_me)

quote:[HR][/HR]Jeebus, all you "car enthisiast" in one thread about console mounted shifters and no one mentioned the bloody Alfa Spider?

[HR][/HR]

Damn you Silly, you beat me to it....

Tom

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A4Jetta

· #14 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (David Votoupal)

You feel like driving a bus with pushbutton shifter.

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RJetta8V

· #15 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (strlen)

Yeah, I saw it on the spider. Its not like this one though, its on the dash itself. Way better set up than my Jetta, I dont know about the SE-R, and the 510's throws are pretty long. I've heard this shifter feels very good as long as you dont look at it...

Lackey

· #16 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (strlen)

quote:[HR][/HR]...there's somewhat of a debate going on in the Mk. IV VW forum, about the usefulness of that setup. [HR][/HR]

A debate, an actual debate, in the Mk.IV forum! That has to be a first!

Ducky 2.0T

· #17 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (RJetta8V)

the automatic Rx300's have the shifters up there too

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A4Jetta

· #18 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (DuckyGTI)

RX300 and Highlander share the same shifter location.

David Votoupal

· #19 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (A4Jetta)

Tom, a pushbutton shifter was used by several American manufacturers in the past, but most notably by Chrysler in the years '56-'64.

QuickStick

· #20 · Nov 29, 2001

Re: Console mounted shifters (ClownCar)

quote:[HR][/HR]I'm surprised that since everyone in the MkIV forum is a race car driver, they haven't noticed that this type of set-up is very common in WRC and touring cars.

Meaning, it must be cool...and people will soon be finding ways of attaching shifters to their Golf and Jetta dashboards.

Mark my word...it'll happen.[HR][/HR]

amen.

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