Both were in Vancouver WA, well, Orchards to be exact. First was a car going across SR500 onto Gaer Rd. from Applebees over to by McDonalds, it was red waiting at the light and I passed in front of you... lister? Then, I was behind a green corrado on 500 in my dads car that had to stop at the light of 500/Gaer Rd. heading towards the mall.... again....lister?