[Paddington]

http://www.toledoblade.com/app...00354
Some interesting facts cited in this article.
50% of the gasoline sold in the U.S. contains ethanol now, and may be close to 100% in 4 years.
Only 1% of ethanol made goes into E85.
I hope the carmakers start optimizing their engines for E10 rather than pure gasoline. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif

 

[Nourdmrolnmt]

Re: E10 - The Ignored Ethanol (Paddington)

Quote, originally posted by Paddington »

http://www.toledoblade.com/app...00354 Some interesting facts cited in this article. 50% of the gasoline sold in the U.S. contains ethanol now, and may be close to 100% in 4 years. Only 1% of ethanol made goes into E85. I hope the carmakers start optimizing their engines for E10 rather than pure gasoline. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif

i believe this is in replacement for MTBE...

 

[nickg]

yea and you get like 10% worse gas mileage on this crap...

 

[DeadEyedButUnbroken]

Re: (nickg)

Quote, originally posted by nickg »

yea and you get like 10% worse gas mileage on this crap...

...and prices are rising every day. How many other industries can you think of where you would ever see someone paying MORE for an inferior product?
Thanks, big oil companies!

 

[4R32]

Re: (nickg)

But it's cheaper, higher octane, and your engine runs cooler.
Look at the Konigsegg, on 9x octane fuel it has around 800hp, on E85 it has closer to 1100.


Modified by 4R32 at 10:05 AM 3-20-2008

 

[Egz]

Re: (4R32)

Quote, originally posted by 4R32 »

But it's cheaper, higher octane, and your engine runs cooler. Look at the Konigsegg, on 9x octane fuel it has around 500hp, on E85 it has closer to 600.

I'd rather fuel up with 100. At least thats readily availible.

 

[4R32]

Re: (Egz)

http://www.caranddriver.com/re...shows

 

[spockcat]

Re: E10 - The Ignored Ethanol (Nourdmrolnmt)

Quote, originally posted by Nourdmrolnmt »

i believe this is in replacement for MTBE...

I thought E10 was a winterized fuel that reduced some pollution levels that spike on normal gasoline during cold months?

 

[tjl]

Re: E10 - The Ignored Ethanol (spockcat)

Quote, originally posted by spockcat »

I thought E10 was a winterized fuel that reduced some pollution levels that spike on normal gasoline during cold months?

The stated purpose is to reduce emissions, but that mainly applies to older generation cars that are becoming less common. The real purpose is to subsidize the corn farming and ethanol production industry, since the law requiring oxygenated fuels (of which ethanol is currently the only choice after MTBE was phased out) does not allow use of non-oxygenated fuels that produce similar levels of emissions. California really wanted to get out of the oxygenation requirement and specify clean burning non-oxygenated gasoline, but was outlobbied and outvoted in Congress.

 

[nickg]

Re: (DeadEyedButUnbroken)

Quote, originally posted by DeadEyedButUnbroken »

...and prices are rising every day. How many other industries can you think of where you would ever see someone paying MORE for an inferior product? Thanks, big oil companies!

even better thought...every 10 gallons you buy gives the oil companies a free gallon of gas to sell too

 

[DreadPirateRobert]

Isn't this supposed to be less harmful than MTBE?
In VA it's all 10% ethanol. My Fox seems to work about the same. I fail to see why people are so irate.