[Hawk]

AMG was a brilliant way for MB to shed the perception that Mercedes were for old guys. It literally made the whole brand young again.

BMW has M.

Porsche has GT.

Audi has RS.

VW has R.

They all try and to it to some extent, but Mercedes was the most successful in recent memory. I was in a BMW marketing meeting where they said that worldwide MB sells more G-Wagons than the ENTIRE M line-up combined!

 

[Jimmy Russells]

AMG wasn't really a Mercedes creation. It was essentially a tuner company that focused on one brand (like Alpina) that they eventually purchased.

 

[SCHWAB0]

^^^ Those guys make great videos. I don't know if those small differences are worth the extra money. I think I'd get an AWD M3.

I think you would really enjoy that car. I can't wait for mine to arrive next year

 

[focal]

AMG was a brilliant way for MB to shed the perception that Mercedes were for old guys. It literally made the whole brand young again.

BMW has M.

Porsche has GT.

Audi has RS.

VW has R.

They all try and to it to some extent, but Mercedes was the most successful in recent memory. I was in a BMW marketing meeting where they said that worldwide MB sells more G-Wagons than the ENTIRE M line-up combined!

I like my cars purpose built, use it or lose it. Or in this case, buy the performance you need.

The G wagon is so pointless for most buyers for utility. It's a pure image play to flex.

 

[michel96]

Apparently, Audi sold more RS than Merc AMG or BMW M in Q1 2022 (link from AW) . Surprising.

AMG, Audi RS, BMW M, Alfa Quadrifoglio: A Battle For Performance Sales

This deep dive into sales for performance divisions of major automakers reveals some surprising stats for Mercedes, Audi, BMW, and Alfa Romeo.

www.motor1.com

 

[absoluteczech]

I like my cars purpose built, use it or lose it. Or in this case, buy the performance you need.

The G wagon is so pointless for most buyers for utility. It's a pure image play to flex.

and they are a dime a dozen in LA, you literally see them everywhere because everyone wants it for "status"

 

[Son]

Apparently, Audi sold more RS than Merc AMG or BMW M in Q1 2022 (link from AW) . Surprising.

AMG, Audi RS, BMW M, Alfa Quadrifoglio: A Battle For Performance Sales

This deep dive into sales for performance divisions of major automakers reveals some surprising stats for Mercedes, Audi, BMW, and Alfa Romeo.

www.motor1.com

That's impressive especially as Mercedes have an AMG model of absolutely everything AND two tiers of AMGs.

 

[Hawk]

Quattro Weather!!

 

[Jimmy Russells]

I think I’ve one upped you lol

 

[Hawk]

Nice! Your icicles are certainly longer than mine.

 

[Hawk]

Drove down to the lake to see the supposed 20 foot waves. Not quite. But it was very windy.

RS 5, handled well, accelerated great in the slippery stuff, but the braking wasn't the greatest.

 

[KrisA]

but the braking wasn't the greatest.

Sottozero's can only do so much.

 

[Elite_Deforce]

The longer I live in the GTA, the less I understand having anything with more than 300hp.

 

[Hawk]

Merry Christmas all my Vortex friends! Hope 2023 is good to everyone.

 

[slngshot]

The longer I live in the GTA, the less I understand having anything with more than 300hp.

[hawc]oneofframpatatimebro[/hawc]

 

[Hawk]

[hawc]oneofframpatatimebro[/hawc]

Exactly. Ramping is life.

DVP and Lawrence is my local favourite, but I'm sure there are others!

 

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Exactly. Ramping is life.

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DVP and Lawrence is my local favourite, but I'm sure there are others!

Is this real life? People treat interchanges like racing circuits?

 

[Elite_Deforce]

Is this real life? People treat interchanges like racing circuits?

Not much else in Toronto between the speed cameras and the traffic.

 

[Hawk]

Exactly. On ramps are the only place left for enthusiasts!

 

[Elite_Deforce]

Exactly. On ramps are the only place left for enthusiasts!

As a lifelong enthusiast who likes horsepower, paying a premium for performance only to be used for a few seconds on an on-ramp is just not worth it. If you are taking trips out to good B-roads often, then sure. If you are working full-time with a family in the GTA, that can be rare depending on your lifestyle.

Probably the number one thing I miss about living in Ottawa: very accessible B-roads.