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Looking for the best snow performance tire that can handle the winter blizzards, rainy days, and clear sunny days...So far it seems that the Nokians WR might be my best bet for those dry winter days and great in those snowy days...
1) Nokians WR-Great all weather tire and very good in the winter conditions and have great wear..
2) Dunlop M3-Great winter performance tire..
3) Blizzacks LM-22-I have not found anyone that had experience with them yet...all I know is that the other "blizzacks" wear quicker and are a little soft for those dry winter days..
Also if anyone knows of the Blizzacks LM-22, Dunlop M3 and Nokians WR and had any experience with them please feel free to post any comments. http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif



Modified by WOB GTI at 12:18 AM 12-7-2003
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? (WOB GTI)

I would suggest that you absolutely do
not use those wheels in the winter.
Seriously you need to put those "pretty
wheels" away this winter. Call me Tuesday for options.
If by performance you are referring to handling, then stick
with H speed rated snow tires.

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Modified by [email protected] at 11:16 PM 7-20-2003
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? ([email protected])

Quote, originally posted by [email protected] »
I would suggest that you absolutely do
not use those wheels in the winter.
Seriously you need to put those "pretty
wheels" away this winter. Call me Tuesday for options.
If by performance you are referring to handling, then stick
with H speed rated snow tires.

oh i have pretty wheel for the summer...but it's time to be pretty all year round...
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? (WOB GTI)

Nokian NRW/WR
http://www.nokiantires.com ... they wear like iron, are awesome in the snow/slush/ice, great in the wet and dry. Too bad you cannot get them from the Tirerack. Chekc http://www.audiworld.com for more recommendations. Great site.


Modified by f1forkvr6 at 7:53 PM 7-21-2003
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? (WOB GTI)

Quote, originally posted by WOB GTI »

oh i have pretty wheel for the summer...but it's time to be pretty all year round...

You sound like me.
Size: 225/45-17
O.k. take a look at tires in Performance Winter if
you want the best handling snows that you can get.
Performance Winter tires offer an H speed rating or
higher. At a slight disadvantage in deep snow and
ice, these Performance Snows will provide better
better handling when the roads are clear.
Any one of these will probably be where you want to be.
Michelin Pilot Alpin
Dunlop Winter Sport M2
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22
Pirelli Winter 210 SnowSport
Pirelli Winter 240 SnowSport
I've always ran the PI 210's. Since then Bridgestone has come
out with the LM-22, which is also performance oriented snow tire
(not to be confused with other Blizzak snow tires such as the WS-50).
I feel the advantage of the Uni-T Technology makes the LM-22 a
contender that you should take a serious look at. And every-
body always loves the Dunlop Winter Sport M2. And the new
Winter Sport M3 should make it here this season. Anyone of the
tires in the above list will be more than acceptable.
We will also carry the Yokohama AVS Winter (one size only
235/45-17). I do not recommend a wider taller tire for driving
in snow. So I'd skip this particular tire for this application.
You can see all of the above mentioned tires and how they are
ranked against each other here.

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? ([email protected])

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Any one of these will probably be where you want to be.
Michelin Pilot Alpin
Dunlop Winter Sport M2
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22
Pirelli Winter 210 SnowSport
Pirelli Winter 240 SnowSport

Out of all those tires I've heard a lot of good things about the Bridgestone Blizzaks...but I like Pirellis but I haven't heard much about them relating to snow/winter conditions...I can do without the Pilots I had them once...
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? (WOB GTI)

There really isn't a bad tire among them.
I don't want you to get confused. Alot of
people think that a tire is a tire. I get a
little concerned with statements like,
"..I've heard a lot of good things about
the Bridgestone Blizzaks (could mean WS-50),
... I can do without the Pilots I had them once...
I hope you mean that you had the Pilot Alpin's?
I just want to make sure that we are talking
about the same tires.
I would pick the BS LM-22, Dunlop
WS M3 or the Pirelli's.


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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? (pturner67)

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also check out the Sumitomo HTR+...compare performance to every other tire in that size...you'll be amazed

are these for the winter?
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? (WOB GTI)

Alot of folks are just "trying to help."
The HTR+ is an all-season tire. Selecting
the worst snow tire will still best the best
all-season by at least 75% for snow traction.

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No disrespect, you're doing a good service Eric.
But, this is a forum and it needs to be said...
Everyone needs to drive within the limits of their vehicle, tires and with safety in mind in winter. Winter tires give you the ability to accelerate a bit quicker and brake a bit quicker. So what will you do, close the gap to the person in front of you? Merge when there's barely enough room? Regardless of whether you use winter tires or true all season tires you'll need to apply good judgement when driving in winter.
Now I ask, why would someone buy $1600 in tires instead of $800 of all seasons. And oh yes, you'll need a different set of rims as well.
And while we're at it, let's quote the stopping distances of winter tires vs all seasons on dry pavement...
 

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Now I ask, why would someone buy $1600 in tires instead of $800 of all seasons.

To choose the best tire for the driving environment. All-season tires are good at a variety of things, but not great at any of them. I'd personally rather spend the extra coin to have great tires in the dry/wet, as well as great tires in the snow/ice. My $0.02.
 

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Quote, originally posted by kuhli2 »

Now I ask, why would someone buy $1600 in tires instead of $800 of all seasons. And oh yes, you'll need a different set of rims as well.

But your tire will last much longer.
Quote, originally posted by kuhli2 »

And while we're at it, let's quote the stopping distances of winter tires vs all seasons on dry pavement...

It will be much less than the difference between winter and "all season" (
) tires on snow.
 

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Ah, maybe its just me. Our Western Canadian weather is very, very unpredictable and quite often you'd find yourself with the wrong tires on and that would be a problem. I guess the compromise suits our weather.
However, I've never run into a tire salesperson that didn't want to sell me a set of summers and winters. The new A/S tires on the market like the ContiExtreme Contact and Mich Pilot Sport A/S(which I've owned) show that there's a lot of demand for a tire with broader capabilities.
 

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Quote, originally posted by kuhli2 »
The new A/S tires on the market like the ContiExtreme Contact and Mich Pilot Sport A/S(which I've owned) show that there's a lot of demand for a tire with broader capabilities.

Agreed, but it really is a North American phenomenon. As far as being on the wrong tires, my snows go on 11/1 and don't come off until 4/15. New England weather is pretty darn fickle as well
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? ([email protected])

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There really isn't a bad tire among them.
I don't want you to get confused. Alot of
people think that a tire is a tire. I get a
little concerned with statements like,
"..I've heard a lot of good things about
the Bridgestone Blizzaks (could mean WS-50),
... I can do without the Pilots I had them once...
I hope you mean that you had the Pilot Alpin's?
I just want to make sure that we are talking
about the same tires.
I would pick the BS LM-22, Dunlop
WS M3 or the Pirelli's.

I don't know which pilot but they weren't that great.
BS LM-22, Dunlop WS M3 or the pirellis? which one out of these has the best winter performance tire? or is there a better one?
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? (WOB GTI)

First, snows wear quicker on dry roads. I'd pay a bit
extra coin if I could save myself from running into the
rear of someone, not that I'd ever make a driver
error.
We all screw up.
Hey if you don't want the best tires for the worst
driving conditions that we're talking about here,
possibly because you don't need them in your part
of the world, because your climate is a bit milder,
thats fine. I don't think that was/is the disscussion.
If some of you want to run with all-seasons, go
for it. I really don't care what you decide to do for
traction on your vehicle. It's a free country(s).
Snow tires provide at least 85% better traction
in snow and on ice than any of the all-seasons that
I have driven. Some folks don't care, are too lazy,
don't have the storage space, or really don't get
that much snow. In the Midwest and in New England,
we never know what El Pin Neen Yo (Mother Nature),
will spew onto our roads.
It's comforting to be prepared so we can get out of the
way of those "other folks" slidding into those of us with
snows.
Again I'd pick the Bridgestone.
 

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Re: Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter? (WOB GTI)

Back to your title of your question of your post:
"Eric which tires are the best performane tire for the winter?"

Size: 225/45-17
What you are looking for when you say "Performance Winter"
is that you want the best handling snows that you can get.
This would be the:

Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22

225/45HR17 BS BLIZZAK LM-22 $154.00

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...LM-22
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...r.jsp

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