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I stumbled across this website just now and wondered...what ever happened to this? This was ALL OVER the news DAILY! Now it's never heard of.
Was the problems fixed? I still see a ton of these Explorers on the roads, or did people just stay away from Firestone tires?
Just wondering what happened...and where the story went.....
http://www.fordexplorerrollovers.com

 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (DigitalTexan2u)

It was pretty much a non issue, under inflated tires, overloaded SUV's, hot summer days =rollovers. they replaced the tires, told people to air them up to a decent pressure (which made for a truck like ride, isntead of a car like cushy ride..but then it's a truck for cryin out loud) and the problem went away. The redesign of the Explorer a couple years back helped a lot too, improved the ride feel without having to have low tire pressure.
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (DigitalTexan2u)

I guess Explorer owners decided to wise up and not yell "OH SH**!!!" and crank the wheel a half turn at 70mph on the highway when they heard a loud bang from tires, Firestone or not, that haven't been properly maintained and inflated since they left the factory due to incompetent negligence.
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (StattlichPassat)

Well there's several reasons this is no longer being heard about.
First of all, Ford voluntarily replaced the suspect tires on tens of thousands of SUV's.
Then, just about anyone with a Ford Explorer could not help but be acutely aware of the issue unless they live in a cabin in the wilderness with no television or radio and do not read newspapers, therefore people with Explorers probably began driving more carefully and with greater awareness.
Then, finally, Ford redesigned the Explorer with an eye on safety and handling. Kudo's for Ford for doing that.
On a personal note, my parents bought one of these Explorers (despite my strong objections) years before that whole fiasco. I drove the thing more than once and for quite a few miles and I can confidently say that the handling was a joke bordering on frightening. I can see why they'd be so popular though. It was cushy riding with lots of clunky buttons, like the plunger pull lever for the headlights
to the golf cart parking brake. The ride was cushy and mushy to soothe the chubby ass of the average American--- all harmless--- until you get to the scary, tippy handling. It was clear to me immediately that not enough attention had been paid to lowering the center of gravity, this was within my first hour of driving it. It felt "wrong" in so many ways, but by far that was the worst. When the **** hit the fan with the rollovers I wasn't surprised honestly. My experience driving the thing alone was enough, add to that Ford's cost cutting, which probably demanded firestone build a sh*t tire dirt cheap. It's not hard to see. I blame Ford 100% for that whole thing. THEY provide specs for tires to firestone and American car companies are notorious for cutting suppliers down to the bone to get the cheapest parts they can that will pass as what they are supposed to be.
Anyway, I thank god my parents never got into an accident in that stupid POS (the only car they every bought w/o my seal of approval)
Now Mom drives a nice, safe, boringly reliable Toyota Highlander at my recommend and I am happy. Dad drives a Lexus, though I wish he'd have gone the extra mile for the Audi A6 I suggested, at least I know he is safe and in a decent automobile.
None of it would have happened without Ford's poor engineering and cost cutting to suppliers. That's the bottom line and it's rock solid. You can't really argue with the facts.
Fortunatley Fraud...er... Ford learned their lesson. The new Explorer, I'll admit, is a vast improvement over the old model. Attention to safety, IRS, side curtain airbags etc. Well done Ford! I am not a big Ford fan but I give them a hearty http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif for the new Explorer.
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (DigitalTexan2u)

Found an Explorer thread to bump in light of all the Toyota issues in the news lately. Here we have a situation where a real or perceived situation of "this vehicle will kill you" led to the drastic drop in sales of one of the best selling vehicles in America (400,000+ units annually) to three quarters, half, one quarter, and now barely a tenth of that today.
The Firestone / Ford incident tarnished both companies' reputations for years, and led directly to mandatory TPMS systems and to greater concern about rollover safety, indirectly leading to the popularization of side curtains and stability control.
Ford's market share took a shellacking after this, and it's only now truly on the up and up.
Toyota is in a lot more danger than TCL realizes. It took Ford 7-8 years for the incident to be truly behind them, and this Toyota thing is the first time since Firestone that I have seen an automotive recall been so widely covered in the media and at the water cooler, not to mention affecting so many of a company's models at once.
Let me put it this way, if my wife starts making Toyota jokes (which she has), then Toyota has a serious PR problem on their hands. This isn't going to bankrupt the company, but they're going to take years to get back up to even last year's sales level.
Please, feel free to quote me in 2015

[PS: WTF ever happened to StattlichPassat?]
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (MikeNoGo)

Quote, originally posted by MikeNoGo »

The Firestone / Ford incident tarnished both companies' reputations for years, and led directly to mandatory TPMS systems and to greater concern about rollover safety, indirectly leading to the popularization of side curtains and stability control.

So what will the Toyota situation bring us in the future?
People to lazy to check their tire pressures gives up TPMS
People who can't put their car into neutral when the throttle sticks might give us better driver training.

Ah, who an I kidding, just more electronic nanny's.
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (JOHNS92JETTA)

Quote, originally posted by JOHNS92JETTA »

So what will the Toyota situation bring us in the future?
People to lazy to check their tire pressures gives up TPMS
People who can't put their car into neutral when the throttle sticks might give us better driver training.

Ah, who an I kidding, just more electronic nanny's.

Goddamn I wish I didn't think you were right about that.
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (MikeNoGo)

Quote, originally posted by MikeNoGo »
Toyota is in a lot more danger than TCL realizes. It took Ford 7-8 years for the incident to be truly behind them

Really? Because you just bumped a thread from about three years after the incident and people are wondering WTF happened to the whole ordeal.
Seems like it was pretty much behind them at that point already.
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (MikeNoGo)

Quote, originally posted by MikeNoGo »
Found an Explorer thread to bump

Start your own thread or talk about your little theory in the current toyota threads. No need to dig up a 6 year old thread that barely makes it half a page.
 

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I think the acquisition of Volvo also gave Ford access to a wealth of passive and active safety knowledge, Ford stopped recommending under inflated tires to avoid tire blowouts and reinforced A-pillar or roof steel in the event their was a rollover. Also, people gradually stopped buying Explorers and other traditional SUVs in favor of car-based CUVs that had better handling and lower center of gravity.
 

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i think people decided to go out and check their tires for once.
that and the whole notion of not jerking the wheel in a vehicle with a high center of gravity must have finally made sense.
 

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Re: FV-QR (TwoLitreVW)

must be Toyota owner
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (PassSedanGLX)

Quote, originally posted by PassSedanGLX »

Really? Because you just bumped a thread from about three years after the incident and people are wondering WTF happened to the whole ordeal.
Seems like it was pretty much behind them at that point already.

The trough of a curve (economic or just sales) is where the recovery begins. The recession isn't behind you until you get back up to where you were

I bumped this particular one for the very reason that the title was poignant. Toyota will put this behind them in time. The question is what the lasting effects will be, not just on them but on the industry.
What's the next government "fail-safe" following trunk releases/lights and TPMS?
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (Knock Sensor)

Ford replaced the Firestone tires with other tires that had higher failure rates, and the public rejoiced since Firestone = bad! grumble grumble grumble.
Seriously- the tires used had higher failure rates (non Explorer). But since the Firestone/Explorer media circus focused on a Firestone quality issue and the Explorer crashes, the public went completely unaware that those Firestone tires still had a relatively low level of failure for truck tires.
What did we learn? That the general public is really ****ing stupid.

IIRC- there used to be an entire Forum for the Firestone thing.


Modified by BRealistic at 11:20 PM 2/4/2010
 

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Ford pushed RSC (Roll Stability Control) on all of their SUVs and pretty much got rid of the stigma they had. Now it's very difficult to roll their SUVs on flat terrain.
BTW, my grandma rolled her 1993 Ford Explorer when a semi truck pushed her into a ditch on the highway, it rolled a few times, and she walked away. (and bought a volvo xc wagon)
 

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Also because of the Exploders and their roll over issues, now all new cars get at least an idiot light on the dash and sensors of some kind monitor tire pressures.
 

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Re: Explorer rollovers...where'd they go? (liquid-cooled)

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First of all, Ford voluntarily replaced the suspect tires on tens of thousands of SUV's.

In the process of the tire replacement recall, they also installed new tire inflation stickers that specified 35psi instead of the original 26psi, presumably to give a little more margin of safety above the dangerous underinflation level in trucks where the owner does not check the tire air pressure often enough.
 
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