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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

Yippee... Mine just went out.
To make sure: When you try to unlock the door with the key (not remote) it is more difficult to turn and you are mechanically unlocking the door (not the electric thing when you turn it twice and all the doors open, or you hold it and the windows roll down.). Sound right? The alarm (if it is enabled) does not disable itself, and trying to start the car causes it to go off. I don't have the switchblade remote, so I can't turn off the alarm unless I unplug the battery. Yay.
Would a bad locking module cause the inbility to roll the winodws down by holding the key turned? My dome and sidewalk lights do not light up when the door is open...
Is there a cheaper way I can replace this? Can I use one from another door or something?
Thanks a million for a quick reply
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

I got excited when I remembered I didn't check the fuses, but I just checked all of them and had no luck.
Anything else I can check? Or is this definite

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (exS4)

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Why didn't you just take it to the dealer?
Isn't covered under warentee?

Not when you have 81,000 miles

Gary: I think I just cracked open a can of worms... (I'm full of cliches today!)
I sat in my car and closed the door. I pressed lock, and all of the doors, including the driver's door locked. I then opened the driver's door and pressed lock, and all of the doors except the driver's door locked.
If the car doesn't know the door is open, ...how does the car know the door is open? Wouldn't it lock all of the doors regardless of if the driver's door is open or shut? Heh... Let me know what you think!
And thanks for the suggestion, I will take it into consideration, but might just suck it up and buy the part since I know I can do it myself with your wonderful DIY that I just read a couple times. I basically want to make sure I know what my problem is!
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

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Scott- 2002tdi is right, the door will not lock if it is still open. I don't think that's your problem though.

This I knew, but I thought the car didn't know the door was open...
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Try this additional test. Sit in the car and close the door. Lock the doors. Do all of them lock? Yes Use an interior switch to unlock the doors. Do all of them unlock? Yes No lock them again. Do all of them lock? Yes Unlock the doors again. Now open the door that is giving you a problem (driver's door?) and close it again. Yes Now try and lock the doors again. Do all of them lock? Yes Un lock the doors again and open the problem door again. Try and lock the doors. Do all of them lock? All but drivers door lock when the driver's door is open Unlock the doors and close the problem door. Lock the doors. Do all of them lock? Yes Now unlock the doors and try and lock them again. Do all of them lock? Yes

It works very normally from inside the car...
Now a few items of concern.
I need to put a key in the door in order to program the new keyless remote. I assume this won't work considering things how they are now, correct?
Also, the car usually primes itself when I open the door (under normal circumstances) but since the car thinks the door is always closed, it never primes itself. What kind of a problem will this cause?
FYI, for today I locked all the doors from the inside, got out, closed the driver's door, and relocked it with the key. Instead of the ligths flashing and the alarm beeping (when it is armed) it just twisted and pulled down the lock cylinder, succesfully locking my car, but without arming the alarm.
When your module is acting up, does the key work as it should when you put in in the door?
If not, this sounds like it is my problem. Are we positive though?
And I tried hitting my door, but to no avail. Something like this happened a couple weeks ago, but I unplugged the battery and all was fine.
My main concern is not being able to program my new remote, and the fuel system not priming itself. The alarm is of a lesser but still significant importance.
Can I use the locking module from the passenger door? I don't care if the car thinks that door is always closed....
I just don't know why my alarm isn't arming itself when I lock the car with the keys. Have you ever tried to unlock the door while the battery is unplugged? That's what it is like. And it doesn't make sense since the car thinks the door is closed. As I said, my interior lights and the sidewalk light do not light up when the door is open.

Ughhh...
Thanks for the help
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (santos.)

I talked to marainwater and I'm pretty sure this is my problem...
I'm gonna call VWofA because I am very sick of paying to repair my car.
I'll let you know what's up Gary!
And thanks marainwater!

Edit...VWofA said I'm on my own =P
can't blame them, 80k isn't anywhere close to being in warranty!


Modified by santos. at 11:19 PM 9-26-2003
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

If you are curious about the programming procedure, here is a link to a thread detailing it: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=509783
Also, from what I understand it is documented in the owner's manual also. I don't have one of those either, so if you do by chance look for it, would you mind copying it into an email or a post here so I can get the word-for-word version and not worry about believeing what other people say? haha thanks...
Any idea about the fuel pump not being primed? I'm starting to worry about it...
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

Yah I will post a thread a little later... I've got to run.
I did a search but didn't get many in depth results.
I'm going to order that part tonight, but I looked on 1stvwparts and couldn't find it by putting in the part number.
I searched for lock module or something and seem to have found it, but wihtout the part number I am a bit skeptical... Any advice?
Talk to you later!
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

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Tip - don't include spaces when typing in part#s on 1stvwparts.

Ah hah!
Now, do I need this:
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3B1837015AK $96.00
Body hardware - Door - Front door - Lock
LOCK, Jetta, Left 1999 - 2003

or this:
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3B1837015AK $96.00
Body hardware - Door - Front door - Lock
LOCK, Jetta, Left, w/Central Locking 1999

They are obviously different, but what the heck is the difference?
Haha... Thanks!
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

I was about to order this, but then got to thinking...
Could I use the module from another door? I would imagine it is driver/passenger side specific, so possibly the rear driver's side door? Or maybe even the front passenger door?
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

Ok well I ordered it, came to about $100...
I'll let you know when it gets here, and Gary, if you want, I will take pictures and document it so you can add a section to that DIY http://****************.com/smile/emthup.gif
Let me know, I'll talk to you soon
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

Hey Gary... The part is on its way... But it started working again today! Should I return the part? Or is it just reluctant to fully die? haha... Thanks!
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (VgRt6)

Just as I suspected!
Thanks for the reply... I'll be sure to post pictures!
Later!

PS, oh what I would do if I had money laying around...
 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (marainwater)

Arghh... I had to stop at discount tire today, and I gave them my keys. I locked my car, and when he tried to unlock it, it malfunctioned. My alarm went off when he tried to start it, and it was a big scene. The only thing I could do (since I dont have a keyless remote yet) was pop the hood and unplug the battery...
The UPS website says it will be here tomorrow... I can only pray. This sucks!

 

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Re: finally replaced door lock module... DIY as follows (marainwater)

Well thanks a lot for the help guys...
It only took about 1.5 hours, and I snapped a bunch of pictures along the way.
Let me know if any of these are not self-explanitory, I can easily let you know what's up in each step, but it was pretty straight forward if you want the truth (for those somewhat mechanically inclined). Really all you do once you have the panel off is remove the module from the bracket, pop out the cable that connects it to the interior door handle, pop out the metal rod that connects the locking cylinder, remove the small cable that connects the module to the outside handle, and disconnect the power source. Once everything is stripped off the old one, put the new one in its place and put everything you just took off right back on! (Easy, huh?) Please ask as I'm sure I can answer any questions you may have regarding the procedure.
I actually did not have (nor want to buy) a rivet gun, so I just drilled a fat screw right through the hole that holds the module to the bracket. Not the best solution, but it worked like a champ.
Like I said, thanks a million for the help, it is now quiter and works perfectly! Just in time for my new switchblade key... Finally, some joy from being a VW owner

Ok so here are the pics, talk to both of you guys soon!
(Gary, I figured I wouldn't clutter your nice DIY thread and just post all of these here, feel free to either link directly or save and upload them yourself if any of them will help your DIY.)
Take care guys, tahnks again!
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