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I recently made the switch from the Diesel Geek Sigma 6 Short-Shifter to the HPA Motorsport short shifter, and I figured I'll post my impressions and thoughts here.
I've had the diesel geek Sigma 6 short shifter in my car for about 2 years, give or take. After some initial hiccups from the installer, it's worked great. As I'm sure most of us know, setting it up 100% correctly is a bit of a process, and in my opinion, a bit of a pain in the ass but results are there.
The Sigma 6 does what it is supposed to do, and did it well, shifts get shortened, and the shifting action gets tighter, but at the same time, notchy. Yes, I know there will be a few of those who say theirs isn't notchy anymore and blah blah. After the initial install, it does get better but there were only a few times where it felt totally smooth, maybe due to weather or whatever but that was to be expected.
I've done research on the other kits available and decided I wanted to try something new, worst comes to worst I'll take the fall and deal with it one way or another. I was looking for something that would be pretty close to the diesel geek in performance but with a smoother feel, and I believe I found it!
I must give a shout-out to TLud for putting out a lot of info in his thread, Icer Jo for answering a bunch of questions I had about the HPA SS, Linden VW for getting it to me and HPA for actually making the part!
Currently I'm running the following setup (links and info on the bottom)
HPA Motorsports Short Shifter (shortest setting)
Tyrol Sport Shifter Bracket Bushings
42DD Shifter Cable Bushings
As an extra addition to the above, I have also cut the actual shifter knob "rod" and lowered the knob.
I did everything listed above at once when I removed my diesel geek so unfortunately I do not have individual differences and impressions but I am without a doubt satisfied with the setup!
It honestly feels shorter than the diesel geek, and just as direct/precise. Dare I say, it feels like a (smooth rather than notchy) diesel geek (due to having the weight). It actually took some getting used to because I felt like the shifter needs to be pushed in further than it did, but after a few days of driving, I'm almost completely used to it.
Another positive to this "setup " although not exactly related is that because it uses the stock end-links, the adjustment is easy.
Hope this helps someone!
[HR][/HR]
Here are some part numbers and sources.
Primary source of information is TLuds Post which has most of the same info as listed below and also where all this was taken from:
https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthr...f-R-Thread&p=82045319&viewfull=1#post82045319
1. HPA Motorsports Short Shifter (shortest setting)
You can buy the short shifter directly from HPA, or a re-seller such as Linden VW
I got mine from LindenVW
2. Tyrol Sport Shifter Bracket Bushing
Ordered from: http://www.tyrolsport.com/engine/transmission/tyrolsport-solid-shifter-bracket-bushing-ssbb
Alternative: 42 Draft Design also makes these: http://www.42draftdesigns.com/VW-Shifter-Bracket-Bushings_p_749.html
3. MK4 Metal side-to-side lever
Part #: 1J0-711-202-J
Ordered from: http://www.deutscheautoparts.com/
4. 42 Draft Design Shifter Cable End-Link Bushings:
USE THESE ONLY IF you are using the above Mk4 side-to-side lever: http://www.42draftdesigns.com/VW-Shifter-Bushing-Set--Mk5-6S-MY07_p_284.html
5a) White Plastic Lever bushing to use WITH THE Mk4 side-to-side lever, part # 1J0-711-067L
You need two of these (one for each side)
Ordered from: http://www.deutscheautoparts.com/
See note above.
5b) alternative to those is ones made by diesel geek
https://www.dieselgeek.com/products/high-performance-bushings-replacing-part-number-1j0-711-067l
6. Additional VW C-clip (locking washer) - VW p/n N-908-159-03
Ordered from: http://www.deutscheautoparts.com/
7. Also added the shaft bushings
https://www.dieselgeek.com/products...-shaft-bushings-for-mk4-golf-jetta-new-beetle
For good measure you should also look into the shifter cable bracket while in there to hold the cables up from burning up on the downpipe
I've had the diesel geek Sigma 6 short shifter in my car for about 2 years, give or take. After some initial hiccups from the installer, it's worked great. As I'm sure most of us know, setting it up 100% correctly is a bit of a process, and in my opinion, a bit of a pain in the ass but results are there.
The Sigma 6 does what it is supposed to do, and did it well, shifts get shortened, and the shifting action gets tighter, but at the same time, notchy. Yes, I know there will be a few of those who say theirs isn't notchy anymore and blah blah. After the initial install, it does get better but there were only a few times where it felt totally smooth, maybe due to weather or whatever but that was to be expected.
I've done research on the other kits available and decided I wanted to try something new, worst comes to worst I'll take the fall and deal with it one way or another. I was looking for something that would be pretty close to the diesel geek in performance but with a smoother feel, and I believe I found it!
I must give a shout-out to TLud for putting out a lot of info in his thread, Icer Jo for answering a bunch of questions I had about the HPA SS, Linden VW for getting it to me and HPA for actually making the part!
Currently I'm running the following setup (links and info on the bottom)
HPA Motorsports Short Shifter (shortest setting)
Tyrol Sport Shifter Bracket Bushings
42DD Shifter Cable Bushings
As an extra addition to the above, I have also cut the actual shifter knob "rod" and lowered the knob.
I did everything listed above at once when I removed my diesel geek so unfortunately I do not have individual differences and impressions but I am without a doubt satisfied with the setup!
It honestly feels shorter than the diesel geek, and just as direct/precise. Dare I say, it feels like a (smooth rather than notchy) diesel geek (due to having the weight). It actually took some getting used to because I felt like the shifter needs to be pushed in further than it did, but after a few days of driving, I'm almost completely used to it.
Another positive to this "setup " although not exactly related is that because it uses the stock end-links, the adjustment is easy.
Hope this helps someone!
[HR][/HR]
Here are some part numbers and sources.
Primary source of information is TLuds Post which has most of the same info as listed below and also where all this was taken from:
https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthr...f-R-Thread&p=82045319&viewfull=1#post82045319
1. HPA Motorsports Short Shifter (shortest setting)
You can buy the short shifter directly from HPA, or a re-seller such as Linden VW
I got mine from LindenVW
2. Tyrol Sport Shifter Bracket Bushing
Ordered from: http://www.tyrolsport.com/engine/transmission/tyrolsport-solid-shifter-bracket-bushing-ssbb
Alternative: 42 Draft Design also makes these: http://www.42draftdesigns.com/VW-Shifter-Bracket-Bushings_p_749.html
3. MK4 Metal side-to-side lever
Part #: 1J0-711-202-J
Ordered from: http://www.deutscheautoparts.com/
4. 42 Draft Design Shifter Cable End-Link Bushings:
USE THESE ONLY IF you are using the above Mk4 side-to-side lever: http://www.42draftdesigns.com/VW-Shifter-Bushing-Set--Mk5-6S-MY07_p_284.html
5a) White Plastic Lever bushing to use WITH THE Mk4 side-to-side lever, part # 1J0-711-067L
You need two of these (one for each side)
Ordered from: http://www.deutscheautoparts.com/
See note above.
5b) alternative to those is ones made by diesel geek
https://www.dieselgeek.com/products/high-performance-bushings-replacing-part-number-1j0-711-067l
6. Additional VW C-clip (locking washer) - VW p/n N-908-159-03
Ordered from: http://www.deutscheautoparts.com/
7. Also added the shaft bushings
https://www.dieselgeek.com/products...-shaft-bushings-for-mk4-golf-jetta-new-beetle
For good measure you should also look into the shifter cable bracket while in there to hold the cables up from burning up on the downpipe
