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The owners manual states that 5W-30 or 5W-40 can be used but the sticker in engine compartment states 5W-30. I’m a new owner of a 2019 R so I found that to be interesting. I’m planning on using 5W-30 since two places note 5W-30. Does anyone use 5W-40?
 

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When I took my 2018 to the dealership for it's first free oil change, I looked up the part number they added and it was a 505.01 5w-40. Dunno what came in there from the factory, but it's stock still and I've noticed nothing behaving any differently.
 

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I've seen a few threads on multiple forums saying the '19s require a VW508 spec 0w-20. Is that only for the GTI?

That being said, I wouldn't run a 20 weight oil in the car. Since I doubt the '19 has a significantly different motor than the '15-'18, I would stick with a VW502 spec oil as a bare minimum. I run German (Belgian) Castrol, which comes in a 0w-40 or 0w-30 weight. In general, it's better than the US spec stuff that sage149 posted because Europe has stricter oil standards than the US and it holds better certifications like MB229.5. I don't know a ton about oil, but that's supposedly one of the more strict certifications. It's also easy to find, either random sales on Amazon or WalMart. I mainly run the 0w-40, and while I only have 13k miles, it does include 4 track days and the oil level doesn't change in between oil changes.

Honestly, I think any good quality Euro formula with a VW502 spec as a bare minimum is going to be fine and I doubt you'll see any significant difference from a 40 weight vs a 30 weight. In my not so knowledgeable head, I just see most Euro spec formulas are 40 weight, and since I take mine to the track, the additional weight should help a bit more so I chose the 40 weight oil since it's still recommended.


To Mattkosem, 505.01 is a turbo diesel specification and I'm not sure how applicable that spec is for our cars. I have seen some posts on the FB groups where people are claiming the dealers are mixing up diesel engine oil with gas engine oil because they both have that 505.01 on it and the bottles look almost identical. Be wary when purchasing.
 

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I've seen a few threads on multiple forums saying the '19s require a VW508 spec 0w-20. Is that only for the GTI?

That being said, I wouldn't run a 20 weight oil in the car. Since I doubt the '19 has a significantly different motor than the '15-'18, I would stick with a VW502 spec oil as a bare minimum. I run German (Belgian) Castrol, which comes in a 0w-40 or 0w-30 weight. In general, it's better than the US spec stuff that sage149 posted because Europe has stricter oil standards than the US and it holds better certifications like MB229.5. I don't know a ton about oil, but that's supposedly one of the more strict certifications. It's also easy to find, either random sales on Amazon or WalMart. I mainly run the 0w-40, and while I only have 13k miles, it does include 4 track days and the oil level doesn't change in between oil changes.

Honestly, I think any good quality Euro formula with a VW502 spec as a bare minimum is going to be fine and I doubt you'll see any significant difference from a 40 weight vs a 30 weight. In my not so knowledgeable head, I just see most Euro spec formulas are 40 weight, and since I take mine to the track, the additional weight should help a bit more so I chose the 40 weight oil since it's still recommended.


To Mattkosem, 505.01 is a turbo diesel specification and I'm not sure how applicable that spec is for our cars. I have seen some posts on the FB groups where people are claiming the dealers are mixing up diesel engine oil with gas engine oil because they both have that 505.01 on it and the bottles look almost identical. Be wary when purchasing.




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I live in cold climate (but car is in garage overnight) use 5w40 as it gets pretty hot here in the summer.

Use Liqui Moly 5W40 Leichtlauf High Tech which is VW502 (approved per 2018 owners manual), BMWL01, MB229.5 and Porsche A40 which is apparently a pretty good combination.

Found this thread to have interesting information about oil for 2018 models, main difference 502 vs 504 is that 504 also works with DPF equipped diesel engines (lower ash content) but 502 is fine even is it is 'older':

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4716204/Oil_and_Fuel_Recomendations_fo

I carry a quart around as well as hard to find VW standard oil in gas stations around here.
 

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WTH VW? Several different stickers with conflicting info, conflicting with the owner's manual, etc. Is this really that complicated? Watch - there will be a letter in the mail informing you that you need to come to the dealer to have the "proper" sticker installed. It's coming.
 

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WTH VW? Several different stickers with conflicting info, conflicting with the owner's manual, etc. Is this really that complicated? Watch - there will be a letter in the mail informing you that you need to come to the dealer to have the "proper" sticker installed. It's coming.
So, you think producing millions of vehicles for dozens of countries with hundreds of variations, by workers that are not payed make design decisions is simple? All you have to remember with you job is "You want fries with that"....
 

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I’ve decided to go with 0w 30 synthetic oil. Mobil 1 makes one for a reasonable price in a 5 qt jug. However, I don’t see anywhere that it has VW 504 00 certification/standard. I’ve used Mobil 1 for years. It relatively cheap compared to Motul. Does it matter if it‘s not officially VW 504 00?
 

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I’ve decided to go with 0w 30 synthetic oil. Mobil 1 makes one for a reasonable price in a 5 qt jug. However, I don’t see anywhere that it has VW 504 00 certification/standard. I’ve used Mobil 1 for years. It relatively cheap compared to Motul. Does it matter if it‘s not officially VW 504 00?
Yes. Regular 0w30 may not have the HTHS that 502.00 and 504.00 requires (3.5 MPa minimum), so it will trade off engine wear for some improved fuel economy.
 
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