Golf R oil weight

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Windycitystig

Discussion Starter · May 10, 2019

The owners manual states that 5W-30 or 5W-40 can be used but the sticker in engine compartment states 5W-30. I’m a new owner of a 2019 R so I found that to be interesting. I’m planning on using 5W-30 since two places note 5W-30. Does anyone use 5W-40?

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IchbineinR

· #21 · May 13, 2019

I am using the Liqui Moly 5W40 Leichtlauf High Tech...there is the Castrol Edge stuff for half the price right now...might do that.

MontrealTDI

· #22 · May 13, 2019

Windycitystig said:
I’ve decided to go with 0w 30 synthetic oil. Mobil 1 makes one for a reasonable price in a 5 qt jug. However, I don’t see anywhere that it has VW 504 00 certification/standard. I’ve used Mobil 1 for years. It relatively cheap compared to Motul. Does it matter if it‘s not officially VW 504 00?

Forget about the weight, just make sure it has the proper VW approval so 504. If it does not say it, it is not approved. Does it also say 502 in your manual (this gives you a few more options), my 2018 has both 502 and 504 as approved oils.

NeilCM

· #23 · May 13, 2019

Mobil 1 0W-40 here, meets the 502 spec and is widely available at a reasonable price.

I change at change at 12 month intervals per the service indicator because of low annual mileage (~5K miles).

Neil

GolfRRRR

· #24 · May 13, 2019

sage149 said:
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This is basically the sticker I have in my 2016 Golf R.

Going on the Castrol website it suggests 0w-30 for the 2016 Golf R. I've been using the Liqui-Moly 5w-40 Leichtlauf High Tech since 2500 miles. I think I'm gonna try the Castrol 0w-30 this coming oil change. I basically only change the oil once a year as my 2016 only has 20,000 miles, so every 6,500 miles or so. Most important thing is that you use approved oil.

zllekk

· #25 · May 13, 2019 (Edited)

BsickPassat said:
Mobil does have a 0w30 and 504.00 approved oil, it is ESP X1 0w30. It's harder to find though.

https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-1/mobil-1-esp

Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 does not met the engine sticker requirement as it is 0w30 AND 504.00

Yep! $60 on Amazon for a 6pack.

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BsickPassat

· #26 · May 13, 2019

Windycitystig said:
Thanks for the feedback. Do any of you have this sticker in your engine compartment?

Mobil does have a 0w30 and 504.00 approved oil, it is ESP X1 0w30. It's harder to find though.

https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-1/mobil-1-esp

Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 does not met the engine sticker requirement as it is 0w30 AND 504.00

21Rouge

· #27 · May 13, 2019

BsickPassat said:
Mobil does have a 0w30 and 504.00 approved oil, it is ESP X1 0w30. It's harder to find though.

I have a 6 pack of this M1 ESP in my oil stash and plan to use it this late Fall.

21Rouge

· #28 · May 13, 2019 (Edited)

NeilCM said:
Mobil 1 0W-40 here, meets the 502 spec

And yet M1 ESP FORMULA 0W40 is the recommended oil for Corvettes having I]only [/I]the dexos2 certification i.e. not 502 (or any other). Weird eh?

https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/em%20sga%20-%20corvette%20mobil%201%20esp%20formula%200w-40%20one%20pager.pdf

DarkArrow

· #29 · May 14, 2019

21Rouge said:
And yet M1 ESP FORMULA 0W40 is the recommended oil for Corvettes having I]only [/I]the dexos2 certification i.e. not 502 (or any other). Weird eh?

https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/em%20sga%20-%20corvette%20mobil%201%20esp%20formula%200w-40%20one%20pager.pdf

Not really weird, since certifications are things that need to be applied for and tested. M1 has a European Formula 0W-40, which has the 502 approval.

https://www.mobil.com/English-GB/Passenger-Vehicle-Lube/pds/GLXXMobil-1-FS-0W40

Rtistic

· #30 · May 17, 2019

my 2018 R also says only use oil that compiles with 0w30 & 304.00 spec...
This is weird, the oil filler cap says Castrol, the oil sticker says use 0w-30 & 504.00 oil, and yet Castrol don't even make oil that compiles with both. Their 304.00 oils are 5w-30, their 0w-30 oils are 502.00.

also found a high res picture of NAR 2019 golf R engine bay, as you can see, it says 502.00 or 504.00. weight is not even specified.

So we have
2015 & 2016 sticker: use 502.00
2018 sticker: use 0w-30 AND 504.00
2019 sticker: use 502.00 OR 504.00

any one got 2017 sticker they want to share??

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asellus

· #31 · May 17, 2019

I just put olive oil in my 2019, seems to be fine so far

jakeyjohn1

· #32 · May 17, 2019

Rtistic said:
my 2018 R also says only use oil that compiles with 0w30 & 304.00 spec...
This is weird, the oil filler cap says Castrol, the oil sticker says use 0w-30 & 504.00 oil, and yet Castrol don't even make oil that compiles with both. Their 304.00 oils are 5w-30, their 0w-30 oils are 502.00.

also found a high res picture of NAR 2019 golf R engine bay, as you can see, it says 502.00 or 504.00. weight is not even specified.

So we have
2015 & 2016 sticker: use 502.00
2018 sticker: use 502.00 OR 504.00
2019 sticker: use 0w-30 AND 504.00
any one got 2017 sticker they want to share??

The Afton Oil Specification Handbook is the only publicly available resource I have found for consumers to know what the OEM oil specifications actually mean (https://www.aftonchemical.com/Insights-and-Resources/Documents/Specification-Handbook please rate it as helpful and thank them and ask for an update, no other company is willing to share this info).

VW 502 and 504 specify what viscosity grades are allowed to meet those specs.

asellus

· #33 · May 17, 2019

jakeyjohn1 said:
The Afton Oil Specification Handbook is the only publicly available resource I have found for consumers to know what the OEM oil specifications actually mean (https://www.aftonchemical.com/Insights-and-Resources/Documents/Specification-Handbook please rate it as helpful and thank them and ask for an update, no other company is willing to share this info).

VW 502 and 504 specify what viscosity grades are allowed to meet those specs.

Extremely good link, thank you!

IchbineinR

· #34 · May 17, 2019

My engine bay has the sticker with the 0w30 and 504 yet the intervals on the Canadian website for my car indicate 5w40 and 502...

pnwbrdr

· #35 · May 17, 2019

Rtistic said:
my 2018 R also says only use oil that compiles with 0w30 & 304.00 spec...
This is weird, the oil filler cap says Castrol, the oil sticker says use 0w-30 & 504.00 oil, and yet Castrol don't even make oil that compiles with both. Their 304.00 oils are 5w-30, their 0w-30 oils are 502.00.

also found a high res picture of NAR 2019 golf R engine bay, as you can see, it says 502.00 or 504.00. weight is not even specified.

So we have
2015 & 2016 sticker: use 502.00
2018 sticker: use 0w-30 AND 504.00
2019 sticker: use 502.00 OR 504.00

any one got 2017 sticker they want to share??

Mine says 502 00 , 504 00 - nothing about the weight of the oil. I have a 2018 R

another related thread: https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49392&highlight=sticker

it's all over the place. Very confusing.

RFGuy_KCCO

· #36 · May 17, 2019

I personally use the Castrol 0W-40 that meets the VW 502 spec. Per the Bob is the Oil Guy forums, it’s one of the best oils out there and is available at a great price from Wal-Mart, at ~$25 per 5qt jug. I’d use this oil in any VW and not think twice.

Note - I would only use a 504 oil if I did regular oil analysis to determine when the oil needs to be changed, since 504 oils are designed for markets with low-sulfur gas and the US doesn’t yet mandate the use of low-sulfur gas. The 504 oils will not last for extended drain intervals (>5000 miles).

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Windycitystig

Discussion Starter · #37 · May 19, 2019

I went to my local dealer and a service tech told me they use Castrol edge professional OE 5W-40. This oil is VW 501 01/502 00/505 00 based on my research.

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GTINC

· #38 · May 19, 2019

Windycitystig said:
I went to my local dealer and a service tech told me they use Castrol edge professional OE 5W-40. This oil is VW 501 01/502 00/505 00 based on my research.

And which vehicles do they use it for? You do know that VW has sold vehicles before 2019 right?

CocoKiwi

· #39 · May 25, 2019

IchbineinR said:
My engine bay has the sticker with the 0w30 and 504 yet the intervals on the Canadian website for my car indicate 5w40 and 502...

Yah my engine bay has the same sticker... i checked the Castrol Canadian website and it recommended either the 5W-30 C3 or 5W-40.

There was a 46% off sale for the 5L jugs at Canadian Tire and ended up getting 5W-40, but it says 502/505 spec... There were no 5L 5W-30 C3, only the regular 5W-30 which doesn't have VW certificate on the back.

If there's anyone that doesn't recommend the Castrol Edge 5W-40 for the 2019 Golf R, please let me know.

JDIEINC

· #40 · May 28, 2019

RFGuy_KCCO said:
I personally use the Castrol 0W-40 that meets the VW 502 spec. Per the Bob is the Oil Guy forums, it’s one of the best oils out there and is available at a great price from Wal-Mart, at ~$25 per 5qt jug. I’d use this oil in any VW and not think twice.

Note - I would only use a 504 oil if I did regular oil analysis to determine when the oil needs to be changed, since 504 oils are designed for markets with low-sulfur gas and the US doesn’t yet mandate the use of low-sulfur gas. The 504 oils will not last for extended drain intervals (>5000 miles).

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One of the best oils? It's a blend of about 50% synthetic and 50% fossil oil so how does it qualify?

And VW specifies 10,000 mile oil change intervals for oil that doesn't protect for more than 5,000 miles?

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