[germanvirgin]

2019 GTI Rabbit edition here. Mine says use 508 which is a 0-20w. From what I can find, it is purely for EPA mileage and emissions (Thinner = less resistance).
Does anyone know if there is any MECHANICAL difference to the engines from the GTI to the Golf R? Oil pump? Bearing sizes? Or did VW just put a stage 1 tune on a GTI motor? I don't get it.:banghead:
I would rather run a little thicker oil (0w30, 5w30). I have a hard time believing that 0w-20 can protect as well...but what do I know.

 

[Brew1961]

2017 Golf R

Here's my 2017 sticker showing a VW 502.00 compliant oil requirement. I typically use Castrol Edge 0W-40 at 5000 mile change intervals unless my annual service interval comes up at the dealership. I have a private mechanic who does them in between to benefit heating his shop in the winter. Brew :beer:

 

[BsickPassat]

I personally use the Castrol 0W-40 that meets the VW 502 spec. Per the Bob is the Oil Guy forums, it’s one of the best oils out there and is available at a great price from Wal-Mart, at ~$25 per 5qt jug. I’d use this oil in any VW and not think twice.

Note - I would only use a 504 oil if I did regular oil analysis to determine when the oil needs to be changed, since 504 oils are designed for markets with low-sulfur gas and the US doesn’t yet mandate the use of low-sulfur gas. The 504 oils will not last for extended drain intervals (>5000 miles).


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One of the best oils? It's a blend of about 50% synthetic and 50% fossil oil so how does it qualify?

And VW specifies 10,000 mile oil change intervals for oil that doesn't protect for more than 5,000 miles?

The EPA did mandate the use of low-sulfur gas back in 2017. It's going to take some time for the states to catch up.

 

[MrPickles928]

I personally use the Castrol 0W-40 that meets the VW 502 spec. Per the Bob is the Oil Guy forums, it’s one of the best oils out there and is available at a great price from Wal-Mart, at ~$25 per 5qt jug. I’d use this oil in any VW and not think twice.

Note - I would only use a 504 oil if I did regular oil analysis to determine when the oil needs to be changed, since 504 oils are designed for markets with low-sulfur gas and the US doesn’t yet mandate the use of low-sulfur gas. The 504 oils will not last for extended drain intervals (>5000 miles).


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One of the best oils? It's a blend of about 50% synthetic and 50% fossil oil so how does it qualify?

And VW specifies 10,000 mile oil change intervals for oil that doesn't protect for more than 5,000 miles?

Where is the proof that these oils won't last for the extended drain frequency dictated by VW? That seems rather silly...

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[todd92]

The EPA did mandate the use of low-sulfur gas back in 2017. It's going to take some time for the states to catch up.

The EPA mandated low sulfur gas in 2006 at 30 ppm. It dropped to 10 ppm in 2017. 30 ppm was more than low enough to keep oil from building up acids. The lower standard is to further improve catalytic converter efficiency.

 

[GTINC]

.....Does anyone know if there is any MECHANICAL difference to the engines from the GTI to the Golf R? Oil pump? Bearing sizes? Or did VW just put a stage 1 tune on a GTI motor? I don't get it.:banghead.....

The Golf R engine and the GTI engine are significantly different in structure.

 

[Windycitystig]

I finally decided to get Pennzoil 0W30 Euro LX which is one of the few VW 504 00 oils.

 

[21Rouge]

I finally decided to get Pennzoil 0W30 Euro LX which is one of the few VW 504 00 oils.

Have you seen this see UOA of this exact oil (and others) for a GOLF R?

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5068196/1

 

[Windycitystig]

Have you seen this see UOA of this exact oil (and others) for a GOLF R?

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5068196/1

Thanks for sharing. Seems the car did not like the Castrol 0w40 if I read it right. Other than higher Boron, it seems the Pennzoil did a good job. I wonder if the results would be different after using the thinner 0w30 oil in the summer.

 

[21Rouge]

Thanks for sharing. Seems the car did not like the Castrol 0w40 if I read it right.

I dont think that is necessarily the case as there is no doubt that the Castrol was in the sump while the car had less than 10k miles on it ie the higher copper # is for sure due to the engine still "breaking in".

 

[jakeyjohn1]

Other than higher Boron, it seems the Pennzoil did a good job.

The Boron is most likely coming from the Pennzoil, not the Golf R.

Here is some random info on boron additives https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=729116#Post729116

 

[rsw81]

Maybe an ignorant question, but what's the advantage to using Mobile 1 ESP over the standard Mobile 1 European Synthetic?

 

[BsickPassat]

Maybe an ignorant question, but what's the advantage to using Mobile 1 ESP over the standard Mobile 1 European Synthetic?

ESP is 504.00 and has a lower NOACK Volatility, which some believe lower NOACK is better for limited intake valve deposits.

 

[CocoKiwi]

I ended up returning the Castrol Edge 5W-40 and got AMSOIL European Car Formula 5W-30 Improved ESP Synthetic Motor Oil instead, which is VW Approved and 504 spec. Its quite pricey though, $180 CAD for 12 x 946ml.

 

[cdg1]

Yes mine has the 0W30 sticker

 

[21Rouge]

I have a 6 pack of this M1 ESP in my oil stash and plan to use it this late Fall.

I lied . I used this 0W30 oil from June to October with a run of just over 5k miles. It did just fine as evidenced by the UOA:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5246255/m1-esp-0w30-8200-km-run-for-an-2018-vw-golf-r#Post5246255

 

[pjk561]

GF6B

New engine oil designed for TDI engines that is expected to be available in May of next year (2020). It will be interesting in what VW says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSF1q_DAOso

 

[Jack Watts]

GF6B

New engine oil designed for TDI engines that is expected to be available in May of next year (2020). It will be interesting in what VW says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSF1q_DAOso

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say about what? I'm confused what GF-6 has to do with the Golf R ,which specs a 504/507 oil?

 

[AdamChandler]

" In fact, the only major difference between ​5w30 and 5w40 is the viscosity in warmer temperatures. ​This makes the 5w30 better suited for colder temperatures and the 5w40 better suited for warmer ones."

I use 40 until Winter then I switch to 30.

 

[GTINC]

" In fact, the only major difference between ​5w30 and 5w40 is the viscosity in warmer temperatures. ​This makes the 5w30 better suited for colder temperatures and the 5w40 better suited for warmer ones."

I use 40 until Winter then I switch to 30.

Or....you could use the grade VW recommends, as, I'm sure you are not an oil lubrication engineer.